Lung Cancer and Prostate Problem — Refused chemo & radiation, and still alive?

Aman is a 72-year-old Indonesian male. He and his wife came to seek our help two years ago, April 2013.  He brought along the report of his Whole Body CT scan, dated 21 March 2013, which indicated the following:

  • Spiculated soft tissue mass noted in the right upper lobe of lung, measuring 4.7 x 4.2 cm. The mass extends medially to right hilum and is abutting the adjacent right oblique fissure.
  • No nodule noted in left lung.
  • Enlarged lymph node in precarina region, measuring 1.4 cm.
  • Prostate is enlarged, measuring 5.1 x 6.1 x 5.8 cm with compression effect to urinary bladder.
  • No evidence of distance metastasis in brain and liver.

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Aman was asked to undergo chemotherapy. He refused. Later, he agreed to radiotherapy but could not start the treatment after the machine broke down. Aman then came to seek our help and was started on herbs. We did not get to see Aman again after his first visit.

About two years later, in June 2015, Aman ‘s wife came to our centre and said Aman was doing fine and she wanted some more herbs for her husband.

Here is the gist of our conversation that day (listen to the second half of video below).

Chris:  You (and your husband) first came in 2013 – two years ago. He was scheduled for radiotherapy — did he go for that radiation?

Wife: No, we came here right away — no radiation done. Since then he (husband) never came back to Penang again.

C: In April 2013, he took the herbs. Is he okay now?

W: Yes.

C: Did you ever go back to consult with the doctors again?

W: No.

C: It has been 2 years now and his condition is okay?

W: Yes, okay. Sometime in the morning he has phlegm in the throat. On and off there is a bit of cough.

C: Apart from that, are there any other problem?

W: No problem — every morning he goes for morning walk.

C: Oh, he does not stay home — feeling sick?

W: No, no. He operates a grocery store selling sugar, rice, etc.

C: And he can work?

W: Yes.

C: Amazing indeed. It’s been 2 years . I can’t believe this. (Tell me again) is he okay? No problem, can work?

W: He wakes up early morning and at 6 a.m. and goes for a walk, round and round the neighbourhood. Everyone who sees him says he is healthy!

C: Oh, and he has no other complaints at all?

W: No.

C: His breathing is good?

W: Okay.

C: What is the problem now?

W: No problem.

C: Okay, amazing healing indeed. Continue to do what you are doing!

Comment

This is rather an amazing healing story. How could he survived for that long without chemotherapy or radiotherapy? That is if you believe these treatments are good for cancer! But for us at CA Care, surviving lung cancer for a few years without medical treatments is nothing unusual.

Let’s go back to Aman’s first visit to our centre two years ago and see what transpired during that visit.

 

 

Chris: Come, come. You are from Aceh (Indonesia)?

Patient: Yes.

C: You speak Hokkien?

P: Yes.

C: Who is sick?

P: Me, with cancer.

C: What happened? Tell me what happened from the beginning.

Wife:  We went for a checkup in Hospital A. This was in September 2012. They said his lung was “dirty”.

C: He went for a checkup. He had no problem at all? No cough, etc.?

W: Nothing. Actually I went for a checkup. After that he also had a checkup.  The doctor said his lung was “dirty” and his prostate (PSA) was also high, 8.8.

C: Did the doctor give you any medication?

W: Nothing.

C: No medication?

W: No. So we went to Hospital B and did another CT scan. We were told there was a mass. But we went home without doing any treatment.

C: You went to Hospital B. Did another scan.  You knew there was something inside but you did not want any treatment? Now to come and see me — it’s already April 2013 — what did you do from September 2012 till April 2013?

W: We came back to Penang again in January 2013. This time we went to Hospital C. We did another scan.

P: They also took a tissue out — through my back.

C: What did they say?

P: It was cancer.

C: What did you do after that (biopsy)?

P: Nothing.

C: You came to Hsopital A, then Hospital B and then Hospital C. You did one scan after another. Then the biopsy. And you did nothing after all these — what were you trying to do? Okay, in January 2013, after the biopsy you did nothing. Was there any pain? What happened after that.

W: We came back to Penang again in February 2013 and went to a cancer hospital. They gave us an oral medication to take (showing the prescription of Tarceva). But the medicine was not good for him.

C: How long were you on this drug (Tarceva)?

W: After taking 28 tablets (two tablets per day), it was not suitable. We told the doctor about this but he said not to worry and asked us to continue taking the medicine.

C: Why did you say not suitable?

P: Rashes and itchiness (showing hands and face).

C: Whole body?

P: Yes.

C: How much did you pay for this drug?

P: RM 7,500 per month.

C: Before taking this drug (Tarceva) did the doctor not warn you about this side effect?

W: Yes, he did tell us. When we phoned him he told us: Continue. It’s okay. You are reacting to the drug!

C: Did you ask if the drug can cure you?

W: He (husband) did not want chemo injection. So the doctor offered this oral drug instead.

C: After you stopped taking this drug (Tarceva), did you go back to the doctor again?

W: We came back on 21 March 2013 and did a CT scan. They scheduled us for radiotherapy.

C: Did you go for radiotherapy?

W: Not yet. We were supposed to do 30 times. When we turned up for the treatment, we were asked to come back the next day because the machine was not working. Then, the next day, they called to say that the machine was still not working.

C: Have you paid the money for this treatment? How much?

W: Yes, we have already paid the money to the hospital. It was RM 8,000 plus. They told us to come  back again tomorrow to start the treatment.

C: So now, are they going to refund you the  RM 8K that you have you paid?

W: I don’t know.

Advice from CA Care

C: You come here to seek our help. I am going to tell you honestly that I cannot cure your cancer. You must learn how to take care of yourself. Now, you have to stop smoking! Go home and take care of your diet. You cannot eat all those fried foods. No sugar, no diary. No banana for people with lung problems. So you have to take care of your diet. Then take the herbs properly. No cure but these may help you. If you have no problems after this – that’s good enough.

Then don’t be “dumb” anymore — no more going from one hospital to another to take pictures. There are still many more hospitals for you to go to! There is no need to do all these scans. Enough. I can’t cure you but if you are okay — no problem — then don’t ask for more.

For those who want to know more about the “bad and good” stories about lung cancer, read these two comic books.

Lung Cancer: What Now?

Title-Page-Book 1

Lung Cancer Success Stories

Title page Book 2

 

 

 

 

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