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In obedience to God's will and counting on His mercies and blessings, and driven by the desire to care for one another, we seek to provide help, direction and relief to those who suffer from cancer.

Part 2. Prolonging Life for 3 Months is an Achievement! Really?

How long does Xtandi extend life?

Xtandi (enzalutamide) is a hormone therapy used for treating advanced prostate cancer.

  • Treatment with Xtandi resulted in a median overall survival time of 18.4 months compared with 13.6 months in the placebo recipients.
  • Treatment with Xtandi extended life by almost 5 months.


Lilly stomach cancer drug extends survival vs placebo

  • The overall survival among patients treated with the Lilly drug in the study was 5.2 months, compared with 3.8 months for those who received a placebo.


Effect of Fruquintinib vs Placebo on Overall Survival in Patients With Previously Treated Metastatic Colorectal Cancer

  • Median overall survival was significantly prolonged with fruquintinib compared with placebo – 9.3 months vs 6.6 months. (note: prolong survival of 2.7 months).
  • Median progression-free survival was also significantly increased with fruquintinib – 3.7 months  vs 1.8 months (note: extend progression-free survival for 2.9 months).


“Landmark” study shows breast cancer drug Xeloda can extend lives

  • In one study, Xeloda cut patients’ risk of relapse or death by 30 percent over five years.
  • 74 percent of patients were still alive and recurrence-free, versus 68 percent of women who’d received placebo pill.
  • Ask this: The difference is only 6% – why do we need to massage the data to become 30%?

In another study – only one group received Xeloda, while women in the other group were given placebo pills. The treatment was given in six or eight three-week “cycles,” with two weeks on the drug, one week off.

  • Five years later, 89% of Xeloda patients were still alive, compared with just under 84% of placebo patients.
  • The difference? Only 5%. Great achievement?


Why Don’t More New Cancer Drugs Help Patients Live Longer?

  • Researchers say many new cancer drugs don’t improve life or increase lifespan. 
  • There’s no clear evidence that most new cancer drugs extend or improve life.
  • According to a research team in London, when drugs do show survival gains over other treatments, those gains are often marginal.


Watch this video: https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2019/09/13/our-wonderful-reunion-with-ella-in-singapore/


Case Study 4. Endometrial Cancer Part 2: No chemo – healthy life, wonderful life for 14 years and more!

Ella is doing well. And she is taking the herbs, and of course NO chemo. Let me reproduce some of the e-mails she wrote us over the years.

30 August 2019 – With Ella and Peter in Singapore

14 May 2020: after twelve years.

It seems so long ago when we last met … it was a get together for all of us and so lovely seeing Irene and family.

You must be so proud of your grandsons … Chris I have read all the books you gave me and they are fantastic. So easy for the lay person to understand and full of great information. Your passion shines through each page and your knowledge is priceless.

As I have mentioned before, it is so hard to educate the people here … It is much easier to pop a pill than to take the time to understand what your body needs to survive. You must see this all the time, especially from those in the

western world.

We are into winter now and feeling the cold … I love rugging up and taking a 4 km walk along the cliffs where we live with so much wild life to see … I am at my happiest when I am with Mother nature. I know you both are too.

Anyway, keep up the good work as the world needs people as you. After reading all the stories of your patients and how they found wellness, thanks to your dedication on helping them to heal. It is a great feeling to help those who look outside the square when given a cancer diagnosis and with guidance take on their own healing to wellness. You and Im must see these many times.

Sending love and blessings and keep forwarding the emails. Until we meet again, Hugs

xx Ella xx

May 2023 – Almost 14 years after her diagnosis, Ella sent us this note.

We are glad that we are able to help Ella in her time of need. We are even more happy and grateful to the Almighty to see her again in Singapore – so well and full of life. There are a few things we can learn from Ella.

  1. Patients have choices or options.

You choose what you believe in and live with the consequences of your choice – for good or for bad. There is no point in trying to point fingers at others when things go wrong. Remember, it was your choice.

Ella knew what she wanted. She empowered herself well ahead of time about what cancer really is and what chemo could do to her. She was not blind when she made her choice.

  • She was right, the doctor was wrong!

Ella said she wanted to prove her doctor was wrong! Good to have something to look forward to, a wish in life, so to say. At CA Care we have seen such predictions proven wrong most of the time. But let us not blame the doctors. They only say things based on what they know or have been taught in medical school or while under practical training. And that is all there is to it. I have since realized about the tight system or box that they are brought up in.

Patients who choose to go into the box with them have a limited view about the well-known limited choices of

surgery, chemo or radiation. Get out of the box and you see a totally different view for your problem. When we met Ella again in Penang and then Singapore (twelve years later), she had proven her doctor wrong many times over!

  • Quality life.

I have posed this question to Ella when she came to visit us about a year after taking the herbs. Given a choice – which

one would you choose? Do chemo and live for two-and-a-half years OR have a solid one-year life of happiness without chemo?

Ella took a calculated risk or gambled with her life and she won. She had lived longer than what her doctor had predicted. Even with chemo she was told she would have only two and half years – and remember, most of the time would probably be spent going in and out of the hospital. But with the herbs, she suffered no side effects and she had lived a good life.

What else can you ever bargain for? And what additional proof do you need in order to believe?

  • Positive attitude.

Ella was so lively and positive in her attitude. That is the way it should be. Do what you have to do first, to help

yourself and then be happy with it. Live a positive life. Enjoy life to the fullest – busy being a grandmother of six kids, and at the same time being a wife running a happy family.

Many patients say they have positive attitudes. Saying is one thing, practising it is another. Ella is not a lamb easily led to the slaughter. She worked for her healing.

Actually, we knew Ella way before she had cancer. She is a health activist in Australia and she has been helping cancer patients as well, but not to the same extent as we do in CA Care due to the limitations imposed by the laws of her country.

Christmas time is party time with all the so-called great and wonderful food. Ella enjoyed the celebration but chose to stick to her healthy diet. Many patients don’t have that willpower. One lung patient said to me: Oh, the Hari Raya – we went home to our kampong (village) and I “tak tahan” (cannot stand) seeing those foods. So, I ate some, here and there. I suffered after I came home.

  • Don’t be a kiasu.

Ella is not a kiasu (afraid-to-lose-want-to-win all-the-time) type. Kiasu people like to ask a lot of questions but it is

no use – waste of time, because they don’t really believe in what we do. When they face a little problem they run away!

The herbs have to be boiled – that’s a big chore! The herbs do not taste good, that is also unbearable to the kiasu.

Our therapy is not easy to follow. It is not for any Tom, Dick and Harry. It is not for the faint hearted either. Patients need to be brave and be fully committed to find their own healing. There is no magic bullet. It requires a change in lifestyle, diet and attitude towards life.

We can show you the way, but you have to travel that road yourself. For that reason, it is a pleasure and our privilege to be able to help such a person like Ella – not a kiasu. We share the joy of her healing.

Case Study 6. Endometrial Cancer Part 1: If no chemo may be just 3 months!

Spring cleaning is a great Chinese tradition. I (Chris) now understand its benefit. I got caught up with this tradition in a half-hearted way on 18 January 2012 – just four days before the Year of the Dragon (2012) sets in. Actually, I was not spring cleaning at all. I just spent one morning clearing some of the untidy old papers left on my shelves – to be recycled at our centre.

To my surprise I discovered many things. And one of which are the faxes and medical reports that Ella, from Melbourne, Australia, wrote me 4 years ago. I knew I kept them somewhere. I have been hunting for them earlier but could not find them. This morning I found them. Because of this I can now relate to you Ella’s story with much confidence. I generally don’t write if I don’t have enough information.

19 November 2008: Ella’s CA125 was at 70. It was high. Only 45 and below is considered normal.

27 November 2008: I received a 3-page fax from Australia with the following message:

  • Here are the results of the tests. I am going in for an operation tomorrow 28 November 2008. And looking forward to all this behind me. I will call as soon as possible. Thank you so much for your support and love. Good health and lots of laughter. Love, Ella.

Ella’s medical report indicated:

  • In the pelvis, the uterus is markedly enlarged with extensive heterogenous soft tissues measuring 7 x 10 cm in maximal diameters, entirely consistent with endometrial tumour.

Conclusion: Intrauterine tumour. Poorly differentiated carcinoma favouring uterine origin. No evidence of tumour spread elsewhere.

The doctor suggested that Ella undergo surgery as soon as possible. I concurred and urged Ella to go ahead as soon as she was ready for it.

28 November 2008:

  • Operative specimen: TAHBSO (total abdominal hysterectomy with bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy), omentum and left and right pelvic nodes.
  • Size: 75 x 65 mm
  • Conclusion: Extensively necrotic poorly differentiated adenocarcinoma of the endometrium, consistent with Grade 3endometrioid carcinoma with myoinvasion 11 of 14 mm and focal lymphovascular space involvement. No tumour identified in sixright pelvic and five pelvic nodes.
  • Cytology report: Endometrial cancer. Peritoneal washings – no cytological evidence of malignancy.

12 December 2008: We received an 11-page fax from Ella.

Chris, here are the reports from the hospital. I hope it gives you a clearer picture of my condition. I look forward to receiving your herbs. And am doing all I can to return my body to wellness. Thanking you for all your help and God bless.

Ella was started on herbs right away – Capsule A, C-tea, Utero-ovary 1 and 2 and T & E teas.

Almost a year later, in mid-September 2009, Ella and her friend, Helen, came to Penang for a week’s holiday and stayed the hotel by the Batu Feringghi Beach. It was our pleasure to welcome her to this Island Paradise. Ella visited our center and got to meet some patients during our CA Care session.

One evening we sat down to talk. Listen to what we talked about and at the same time learn some survival

tips from this full-of-life-friend from Melbourne.

Survival Tips from Ella.

No chemo for me after surgery – never ever!

Watch these videos:

Part 1. Surviving 5 years is not a cure!

She was cured after 5 years! One year later she died!

MT was 44 years old when she was diagnosed with breast cancer. She underwent a mastectomy followed by 6 cycles of chemotherapy. She also had 30 radiation treatments. After that she took tamoxifen for 5 years.

The promise: The doctor said it was an early stage cancer. MT had a 90% chance of complete cure if she was to undergo all the recommended treatments.

MT believed her doctor and did exactly as she was told. Each year she went back to her doctor for a routine check-up. At every visit she was told that she was fine.

Five years: MT was told to stop taking tamoxifen because she was already cured.

Barely a year later. MT started to have pains in her tail bone and shoulder blade. MT returned to her doctor.

Examination indicated the cancer had spread to her bones.

Why the recurrence? MT asked the oncologist how could this happen – she had done all the treatments required of her. On top of that the oncologist had told her (a year earlier) that she had been cured.

The oncologist’s replied, I do not know why. But don’t blame yourself. It is your fate. Also, the recurrence has nothing to do with what you eat. It is just your fate.

Watch this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5Hfi2-ngN0

Some Mind-Boggling Statistics and Quotations About Present Day Cancer Treatment

The Casino-Hospital

Vincent Coppola, Matt Strelecki and Stan Winokur wrote a book called The Big Casino. It contains 42 articles written by many America’s top cancer doctors. They shared stories that they could not forget about their cancer patients. The title of the book, The Big Casino, suggests that patients seeking treatments in the hospitals in America are not much different than gamblers going to the casinos in Las Vegas or Macau!

Take time to reflect on this. Is going to the hospital for your cancer treatment like going into a casino?  Patients and their families put their full trust in their doctors. Cancer treatment these days would cost a lot of money. Some patients would even have to sell their house or land to pay for the hospital bills. Their hope is that the treatment they get in the casino-hospital will make them well again – CURED! That’s the gamble they are taking.

All gamblers know that they cannot win all the time. In fact, you lose more often than you win in this cancer game. Let us examine the reality of what can happen in the casino-hospital.

No Cure for Cancer

Professor Gershom Zajicek, Faculty of Medicine of the Hebrew University of Jerusalem (http://www.what-is-cancer.com) said:

  • You want to be cured. Unfortunately, most chronic illnesses, e.g. cancer, are essentially incurable. Cure is unrealistic. The only option is to attain a prolonged remission.
  • Cancer is generally incurable … most statements about cancer do not indicate successful treatment and the vast literature on cancer has to be regarded with scepticism.

Nearer home, a renowned oncologist in Singapore (The Straits Times, Mind Your Body Supplement, Page 22, 29 Nov. 2006) said:

      ·    Oncology is not like other medical specialties where doing well is the norm.

      ·    In oncology, even prolonging a patient’s life for 3 months to a year is considered an achievement.

      ·    Achieving a cure is like striking a jackpot!

      ·    Not all cancers can be cured.

      ·    As doctors, we try our best to cure those who can be cured, to control the disease for those whose lives can be extended, and to comfort those for whom little can be done. 

Chemo-drugs Are Not Really Effective

Allen Rose, the worldwide vice-president of Glaxo-SmithKline (Daily Express, 8 Dec. 2003, The Sun, 9 Dec. 2003) said:

  • Drugs in the market don’t work on everybody.
  • Drugs for cancer are only effective in 25% of the patients.

Dr. Cynthia Foster (in Stop the Medicine) wrote:

  • There are plenty of statistics to show that people die sooner if they follow the doctor’s advice and have all the cancer treatments than if they just do nothing.
  • Doing nothing means not bankrupting themselves with the expensive treatments, not being subjected to medical mistakes and horrible complications. No suffering from dangerous drug toxicity.

Dr. Candace Pert (in Molecules of Emotion) said:

  • State-of-the-art chemotherapy … was nothing more than different combinations of the same toxic drugs given in different schedules. It continues to kill more people every year, often a slow painful death … by toxic treatments.

Dr. David Agus, a renowned oncologist (in The End of Illness) wrote:

  • If you come to me for help in treating advanced cancer detected late in the game, your game is likely to be over soon. I say it because it’s the truth. It’s a shame that the technology and innovation in medical research and treatments are so archaic, outdated and dare I say, in some cases barbaric.

Sweet Empty Promise

Within five years, cancer will have been removed from the list of fatal maladies.

The above was the optimistic promise given to U.S. President William Howard Taft in 1910 when he visited   Gratwick Laboratory in Buffalo (now Roswell Park Comprehensive Cancer Center). More than a century later, it’s reasonable to ask, What’s taking so long? (https://www.roswellpark.org/cancertalk/201909/cure-cancer-whats-taking-so-long)

On 23 December 1971 (almost 50 years ago) another US President, Richard Nixon tried to fix this cancer problem by signing the National Cancer Act of 1971, launching what was known as the “War on Cancer”. The aim was to find a cure for cancer by increasing research activities and developing more effective treatments for this dreaded disease. After spending billions and billions of dollars on research and decades of hit-or-miss treatment, cancer in general remains a major cause of death up to this day. In short, the war failed.

In an article, Scientists: We Will Never Find A Cure For Cancer (https://sciencenordic.com/cancer-denmark-videnskabdk/scientists-we-will-never-find-a-cure-for-cancer/1439518)  Dr. Jørgen Olsen, head of research at The Danish Cancer Society was quoted as saying:

  • If all the positive cancer breakthrough headlines are to be believed, then the cure for cancer is right around the corner. But that is a far cry from reality. I think it’s an illusion to imagine that after millions of years of this disease we’ll suddenly find a solution. I don’t think that we’ll ever beat it, but I think that we’ll get it under control so that it becomes chronic but not deadly.

Christopher Wanejk, in an article, Forty Years After Moon Landing: Why Can’t We Cure Cancer? (https://www.livescience.com/5566-40-years-moon-landing-cure-cancer.html) wrote:

  • With $200 billion spent and tens of millions of cancer deaths accumulated since 1971, most would say we are losing the war on cancer. Cancer is the top killer worldwide, responsible for 7.4 million or 13% of all deaths annually. In America, cancer will soon overtake heart disease as the top killer, claiming more than half million lives annually.
  • … don’t except the war to end anytime soon. We’re only really very good at curing mice of cancer.
  • Overall, during the mid-1970s, the 5-year survival rate among adults for all cancers combined was 50%, today it is about 65%. Admittedly this isn’t that impressive given the amount of resources spent.
  • Cures for the major killers, such as cancers of the lung, breast and liver, remain elusive primarily because of the unpredictable nature of cancer cells.

Dr. E.H. Ng, Chairman of Medical Advisor of Breast Cancer Foundation, Singapore (in the Foreword of Cheers to Life) rightfully pointed out the reality of today’s cancer world:

  • Bare facts, statistics and exhortations. Doctors are good at dispensing these. They roll out of their tongues smoothly, falling heavily upon our patients’ ears, impressing upon them the potency of this disease.
  • After all is said and done, medical science remains remotely far from being able to assure everyone that cancer can be kept at bay or that doctors can cure the afflicted.

Medical Treatment for Cancer

Medically, most cancers are best treated with surgery. When surgery is not indicated, cytotoxic drugs are used such as in chemotherapy (now we are entering the age of immunotherapy and targeted therapies). Besides these, patients are also told to undergo radiation therapy. Often 2 or more modalities are used with the hope of getting the best results.

The goal of treatment is to kill as many cancerous cells while reducing damage to normal cells nearby. This is a hard call. Because the toxic treatments may do more harm than good in some patients.

We also need to remember that a cancer in one individual can be very different from the cancer in another individual even though they are the same type of cancer. Within a single type of cancer, such as breast cancer, researchers are now discovering different subtypes that requires to be treated differently.

Perhaps this is the reason why Dr. C. Kent Osborne, director of Breast Cancer at Baylor College of Medicine, Houston said:

  • Everybody was treated the same way, despite the fact that we know some patients did well no matter what we did and other patients did poorly and died no matter what we did.

Let me share with you some of the “many things” that I learned over the years about cancer and its treatment.


In remembrance of Stephen Taylor: Part 6:  Lessons We Can Learn from Steve’s Experience

This 6-part article In remembrance of Stephen Taylor is one of the few long articles that I have written for our website. You may be wondering why!This is because I feel that there are many important lessons we can learn from Steve’s experiences. That is, if you want to read and learn. But if you are not interested to know and learn, then this article is meaningless. So what? You would say, he is already dead. Why waste time reading a dead man’s story? Sad.

Before I go further, let me remind you clearly and loudly. We in CA Care are not anti-doctors or anti-modern medicine. I have stated this point since we started CA Care some 27 years ago!

  • If there is something wrong with you, my advice is always to go and see your doctor and find out what is really wrong with you. Don’t go to the alternative practitioners or Chinese sinseh for a diagnosis.
  • If you have cancer, go and see an oncologist and ask what he/she can do for you. The gold standard of cancer treatment is surgery, chemotherapy, radiotherapy, targeted therapy or immunotherapy. After listening to your doctor, you have to decide for yourself what you want to do. It must be your shot – don’t let others around you or your doctor “dictate” what you have to do. Reach out to your Inner Being to know what you want to do to help yourself.

If you need more help and are willing to read, ask your computer. These days, your computer can give you many answers. If you are still not satisfied and need an alternative view of what to do, you are welcome to consult us. Again, I say – we are not anti-doctors even though our views are often at odd with your doctors.

1. Steve’s initial stand was: No to Medical Treatment.

In this case, Steve at the beginning, did not want to go for medical treatment at all. He knew what it was like some years ago when he had prostate cancer. He lived many years after the initial hormonal treatment that failed him and he subsequently went on to find healing without undergoing further medical treatment. But that was prostate cancer. When he was diagnosed with salivary gland cancer, it was a different ball game altogether.

2. No Magic Bullet, Healing Take Times.

Almost all cancer patients who come to see expect a magic cure. No, I am sorry I cannot cure your cancer. There is no magic bullet for cancer. That is my experience. You need to learn how to live with your cancer and “cure” yourself. Others around you can help but ultimately it is you and you alone who determines the outcome of your healing.

Taking herbs for one, two or three month and expecting the tumour to go away is madness. And if there is anyone on earth who claims that he/she can deliver such magic cure, know that he/she could just be equally insane. There is no instant cure. Healing takes time.

3. Healing of cancer is not only about the tumour. Patient’s mindset and personal attitude are equally important.

In my 27 years of experience dealing with cancer, I realized that I can only help 30% of those who come and see me. The remaining 70% just cannot be helped. After talking to patients for a few minutes, I could roughly predict if I would be able to help them with their problem or not. 

Healing cancer is not just focusing on the tumour, it is about healing the whole body – both physical and mental. Your personal attitude and mindset play a very significant role in determining the direction and outcome of your effort to heal yourself.

The common attitude most people have is to fight with the cancer,  wanting to win in the war against cancer. Over the years I have come to understand that in any war no one wins! Turn on the news and see what happened to Iraq and now Ukraine! War, fight and see what happened to the ordinary folks? What you see on the screen (and the reality on the ground) is mass destruction. That is what war is – misery and destruction. Is this not be the same when you rage a war in your body against your own cancer?

I have come to realize that it is better to learn how to live with your cancer than fight with it. This is a tall order. Not everyone can do that.

Many patients come to me with these mental attitudes:

  • My doctor said this, my doctor said that. Yes, my doctor knows best.

Read what some honest medical experts say:

In an address to students at the Harvard Medical School, the Dean, Dr. Burwell said:

  • Half of what we are going to teach you is wrong, and half of it is right. Our problem is that we don’t know which half is which.

Listen to what Professor Jerome Groopman of Harvard Medical School said:

Every morning Steve looked at  his face in the mirror. With each passing week the tumour was still there! To him it was growing bigger and bigger! For prostate cancer he could not see what was going on inside him – so it was not scary. But for parotid cancer it was a nightmare every passing day. So, it needs a “brave heart” with a strong mindset to say, I shall live with it.

  • It is natural for all patients to react by saying I must go for treatment immediately. I must destroy the cancer before it starts to spread all over the body.Yes, I understand that.

But listen to what some medical doctors themselves said:

  • Some patients come to us with the belief that doctors use scientific, proven method to cure cancer. Other methods are just hocus pocus, not scientifically proven, etc. I can only say this – if you know enough science you will know that the accepted dogma of follow the science could just be a “bias” representation of the truth.

Instead of debating whether what you are doing is scientific or not scientific – proven or not proven, read what these authors said:

  • In my emails of 3 September 2022, Steve and I had many exchanges on this matter (See Part 3). The use of herbs – where is your proof? Your statistics? Herbal therapy could be just a baloney (foolish, deceptive or nonsense)!

I don’t wish to defend that remark. If you believe me, you believe. If you don’t believe what we do, go and find someone else whom you can trust and can help you.

There seems to be the impression that Chris Teo is saying that medical treatments are totally ineffective. No, no need to throw such brickbat at me. Almost all patients who came to see me for help have undergone medical treatments and they failed – given up. So all the cases I see and talk about are failed medical cases. That is the reality and truth. Those who succeeded or are helped by medical treatments do not come and tell me their stories or success. There is no reason for them to come and see me. We are not running a competition here.

I believe that learning from failures is the key to every success. That is if you want to take time to learn. That is the reason why I spend lots of my time writing stories of my patients. It is my hope that by sharing these stories you can learn and avoid the path that lead you to your early demise. You don’t have to believe me if you think that these case studies that I wrote are just fakes or cooked-up and are not backed by statistical data.

  • In dealing with cancer patients, I come to realize that strong faith in Spirituality is important for anyone to keep calm and have peace of mind. This is an important ingredient of healing.

Read what Dr. Allan Hamilton, neurosurgeon of University of Arizona said:

  • Many patients view cancer as a “curse” or a “punishment”. How many of us dare to see cancer is a “blessing” or a “wake-up” call?

4. Surgery – The Only Way To Make The Tumour Disappears Immediately.

When Steve wrote me, I could not offer much. This type of cancer is rare. In my 27 years helping cancer patients, I encountered only 5 to 6 cases of such case. So I can’t say much.

When Steve at last decided to go for surgery, I agreed with him. Well, he thought I was pulling his leg or was fed with his ramblings. No, I was just being honest. If you want the tumour to disappear “magically” within a day, then go and get it removed by the knife. This is a fact – you cannot dispute that.

However, my role was to warn Steve about the possible side effects of the surgery and the possible sufferings after the procedure. I always remember this saying: The operation is a success but the patient died. Read what the internet says about this quotation – very interesting!

5. The best surgeon, best equipment and the best hospital. What more can you ask for?

Every doctor whom Steve consulted gave the same advice. Go for surgery. They even helped him identify the best surgeon in Bangkok – that means the best in the whole of Thailand. The surgery could be done in the best hospital using the best equipment ever found in the country. So this tipped the scale. Steve decided to change from his earlier stance on surgery. He was in the hands of the best expert available in the country. So why not? Steve said no one in his/her sane mind would reject such an opportunity. That is what ALL patients want to hear.

Yes, I did not object to that logic. Go for the best and let the best take care of you. Furthermore, this expert had handled such case every week! So he surely has vast experiences and expertise. This is an opportunity of a life time!

6. Surgery prolongs life and promote quality of life.

This is the “honey pot” hung in front of all patients. Steve was given the impression that a surgery done by an expert with experience would have a very high possibility of living 4 to 6 years, compared to say 2 years when doing nothing. He also understood that surgery would not cure his cancer. But then there is another bonus – after the treatment the patient can have a better quality of life.

Attractive reward outcomes. Which patient would not accept or dare to reject such offer?

7. Let us face reality.

I started life as an academic – teaching and doing search in the university. I became a full professor.  I know what science is and what statistical data are and what they can be used for. Let us not use the excuse that it is not proven or it is not scientific as a smoke screen for our own bias or ignorance. What is important to ordinary folks – you and me – is real life reality not what the science text books say.

In the case of Steve, he was attracted and was convinced that surgery – which is a scientifically proven and globally accepted procedure –  can make the tumour in his cheek go away safely. Yes, he was absolutely correct on that score if that is all that you want.

Steve was told by the expert that with surgery his life can be prolonged by 4 to 6 years, compared to say 2 years if you do nothing. In theory yes, that is correct too. But also know that in real life situations you may be dead wrong and that your prediction could just be based on your own “professional blindness” or bias?

Over the years I have come across many cases and have shown (I don’t want to use the word “prove”) that such prognosis is just WRONG. To illustrate my point, study these 3 cases below:

Now to PROVE my point, let us examine what ACTUALLY happened to Steve.

  • The expert doctor said: With surgery your life can be prolonged by 4 to 6 years. If no surgery only 2 years.
  • What is the reality? Steve died 3 months 13 days after the surgery. Where is the promised years?
  • Question: Before the surgery, Steve was on and off the herbs for about 3 months. He did not die. But he died, 3 months after surgery. What if he did NOTHING and did not go for that surgery? Would he have died after 3 months?

What other proof do you want or what statistical data do you want? Oh, certain people may say Steve is just unlucky! Okay – what other reasons can we give to justify this tragedy?

  • Another question: The expert doctor said after surgery, Steve could lead a better quality life. Really?
  • What is the reality? Make your own judgment after reading again what Steve went through after being discharged from the hospital until his death.

Let me end by citing a short conversation I had with an expert after my auntie had a very massive metastasis in her lungs. The doctor suggested that my aunty undergo chemotherapy immediately.

My question: Doc., why do you want her to undergo chemotherapy? We cannot expect to cure her with that treatment.

Doctor: It is just to promote her quality of life.

My response: Doc., let us be frank – between you and me. We all know that the side effects of chemotherapy would be terrible. Don’t you think so? If you agree that chemo is not like taking a walk in the park, can you be very honest with me — how could chemo ever promote her quality of life? It would be hell all the way.

Doctor: Yes, I totally agree with you.

My auntie declined chemotherapy and she went on to live for many more months after that, before she died peacefully one morning. It was a good death without chemotherapy. No regrets.

In remembrance of Stephen Taylor Part 5:  Steve Died – 3 Months 13 Days After Surgery

6 February 2023 Chris wrote:

  • Hello Stev, never heard from you. How are you getting on. Sorry I did not write earlier.

8 February 2023

Dear Chris Teo,

This is S, Steve’s daughter. Thank you for reaching out to check on my father’s condition.

It saddens me to send you this news. My dad passed away on Friday 30th December 2022. Although it’s all been quite difficult to take in, we find comfort in the fact that dad passed away very peacefully with myself, my mother, and other loved ones present. The funeral service took place between 4 to 7 January 2023. It was a magical experience, hundreds of friends and family members attended what was a true celebration of dad’s amazing life.

I know that my dad updated you about his condition whenever he could. However, he was admitted to hospital on 25th December 2022 and was no longer able to reply emails since the Christmas period. Before my dad passed away, he asked me to update you about his condition and also thank you for all the help and advice that you had given to him over the years.

The operation went smoothly. The lump was removed on 17th September 2022. The surgeon informed us that he had removed most of the cancer (around 90%), but that he could not remove more than this in fear of hitting a nerve. The surgeon advised my dad to have radiation … Dad opted for palliative care. My dad passed away around 3 months after the operation.

Once again, thank you for all your help and advice. You were a crucial part in helping my dad in his fight against cancer. My Mother and I are extremely grateful. Warm regards, S.Taylor

8 February 2023 Chris wrote:

Hello S, I am sorry to write you again. I hope I don’t disturb you too much. I have a few questions to ask:

The last email I got from him was 4 Dec and he died on 30 Dec. In his last email he said he wanted to go away and stay with family and forget about the problem, did you manage to do this?

After that what happened?

a) Did he go to the hospital for any treatment?

b) If so what treatment — radiation? chemo? how many times?

c) You were with him when he died. Did he suffer before he died? Any pain?

d) Did he die at home with the family or in hospital.

Thanks so much. Chris.

13 February 2023.

Hi Chris,

In response to your first question, we did manage a short “staycation” at my dad’s favourite hotel, The Mandarin Oriental Bangkok, from 11 to 13 December. By this time, my dad was already suffering with a lot of pain in his wound. A long car journey to another city would have been too much for him. So we settled for a nice hotel in Bangkok.

Despite the pain, my dad insisted on taking my mother and myself to the Mandarin Oriental Hotel to celebrate their 28th Wedding Anniversary, in what would be our last holiday together as a family. We feel extremely lucky to have had this holiday together. Please find a family photo from the short “staycation” attached below.

(Picture posted with kindly permission of the family. Thank you!)

a) My dad did not go to the hospital. He stayed at home. Since no other medication could help to subside the pain, the doctor agreed to prescribe morphine for my dad in mid-November. I believe he initially took around 1 cc of morphine, once a day. The doctor who prescribed the morphine told us that my dad could increase the dosage as the pain became greater, and also warned us of the side-effects. Therefore, as the pain in my dad’s wound became greater, he gradually increased the dosage from 1 cc a day, to 1 cc 2 times a day, to 1 cc 3 times a day, to 2 cc 3 times a day, and so on. By the 20 December, my dad was taking 4 cc of morphine almost every 2 hours whenever the pain was extremely bad. If there was no pain, then he would not take any morphine.

b) My dad did not have any radiation or chemotherapy. He opted for palliative care. In addition to the pain in his wound, my dad also had a very bad sore throat. It became increasingly difficult for him to eat solid foods. By the beginning of December, he would prefer to eat liquid foods such as soup, oatmeal, or Thai porridge. It was also evident that my dad began to eat less and less. He warned me that he did not have much time left.

On 24 December, my dad had unbearable pain. He remained in bed for the entire day and refused to eat anything at all. He would only get up to use the toilet, with myself and my mum supporting him while he walked. Also, my dad would only drink water and he took 3 cc of morphine before he went to bed.

On 25 December, my dad’s unbearable pain continued. He refused to eat or drink anything. He even refused to drink water. On this day, my dad rolled onto his right side (the side where his wound was) while he was in bed. As a result, the wound broke and he began to lose a lot of blood and yellow liquid. Therefore, my mum and I decided it best to call the ambulance.

c) My dad was admitted to N Hospital on 25th December. We decided on this hospital because my dad preferred it. He said that the doctors respected his decision to refuse radiation and chemotherapy. At the hospital, my dad received oxygen support, IV fluids, and morphine.

Having witnessed my dad in unbearable pain for the previous two days, it was at least good to see him free of any pain. He did not suffer any pain over the next 5 days while he was in hospital. However, since his wound broke on 25 December, he was not able to speak anymore.

My dad fell into a semi-coma while in hospital. He would only open his eyes when the nurses cleaned him or when they used the suction machine to remove the saliva.

d) My dad passed away in hospital on 30 December, free of any pain and very peacefully with myself, my mother, and other loved ones present. Before he passed, he opened his eyes widely and looked for myself and my mother, as if to say farewell. It was heartbreaking, but as I mentioned, it comforted us to see that dad was no longer in any pain.

Warm regards, S. Taylor

In remembrance of Stephen Taylor: Part 4: The Operation Was A Success But Patient Suffered Severe Pain

Before surgery

14 September 2022, 5:12 AM Steve sent this note:

  • Just have to do the best I can.
  • It’s a help just to be able to talk to someone like you.
  • No reply needed.

14 September 2022, 3:40 PM, Steve wrote:

Afternoon Dr. Chris. I read through your excellent booklet and couldn’t agree more with it.

  • The very first step in healing is for every cancer patient to recognise the influence of his own mind on his illness and recovery process. A negative mindset leads to more trouble and possibly unnecessary death, while a positive mindset gears you towards recovery. How could I possibly disagree?
  • But it’s one thing to say, and a completely different kettle of fish to do. I’m not a defeatist, only a realist. For example, I’m sure a belief in a higher power may be very supportive for some people. But try telling that to Einstein or most other Nobel Prize winners. I can’t fool myself into believing something that I don’t believe in. I don’t believe in karma or rebirth.
  • I’ve tried listening to healing music on YT, but as in standard meditation, my mind soon wanders off in all directions. The best antidote for  me is to remain active and especially when my bubbly 27 year old daughter is around. Can’t fail to smile then, and you would too if you met her!
  • Worst is when I’m sitting alone feeling unwell with this constant pressure on the cheek.

So thanks again Chris for all you’ve done.

14 September 2022, 6:10 PM, Steve wrote:

  • Hello Chris, I feel guilty using up all your time.

14 September 2022, 8:00 PM, Steve wrote:

  • People such as yourself restore my frayed faith in humanity.

14 September 2022, 8:21 PM, Steve wrote:

  • I cannot describe the emotion I feel … All I can possibly say is … THANK YOU !!!!

After surgery

18 September 2022, 10:13 PM Steve wrote:

Dear Dr. Chris,

  • Here’s a short update. I’m now wrapped up in bandages so don’t know what it looks like. Probably a couple days more of that. There’s a bottle draining liquid from the cheek which the nurse said looked normal.
  • I had the operation on 17 September at S Hospital to remove the tumor.
  • The expert surgeon came to see me with the following news.

The good points:

  1. He considers the surgery a success.
  • He removed a large 6 cm tumor on the cheek causing the lump, with minor damage to the nerve.
  • This minor nerve damage may heal itself in a few weeks.
  • My right eye still mostly works ok. I can close my mouth to drink (with some difficulty but I can manage). See how it goes over the next few weeks but he is pleased.
  • The cancer has not spread to the throat.
  • He did say that despite the problems below, he still says in his opinion that the op will give me better “quality of life’ but I haven’t discussed with him yet if he thinks it will extend life.

The not so good news:

  1. He could not remove a tumor on the other side of the nerve, because to do so would damage the nerve. I agreed completely.
  • He suspected that the cancer had gone to a lymph gland on the neck.
  • My own opinion on all this is that is exactly what I expected, assuming he is correct in the ‘quality of life’ bit.
  • Since I saw the ENT Specialist 3 months ago when the cancer was diagnosed by MRI scan and fine needle biopsy, it was clear to me that the cancer could not be “cured” by standard methods.
  • I agreed with the surgery only because the lump was growing bigger, even with herbs and the cannabis oil, and could become a serious problem.
  • It did offer more (but for how long?) ‘quality of life”.
  • Also, I agreed with everyone that surgery was the best thing to do, and maybe I could try different herbs if that’s what you think.

This hospital is very good and the standard of care and attention has been excellent. But of course there have been problems.

  1. They seem to have a diet specialist who has followed my recommendations of a veg diet, no milk, with rice soup. Seems healthy food. But they also gave me a sugary drink (to increase my strength?) and a sugary donut! I asked the dietician to stop the sugar and she readily agreed. Good.
  • Language problem. Essentially, they are giving me large doses of antibiotic to prevent infection, namely an IV antibiotic, an injected antibiotic, and pills antibiotic. Today I had hot flushes and felt unwell.

Could it be the current large doses of antibiotic which were causing the hot sweat  and my feeling unwell? Another doc came and explained that the symptoms for a reaction to antibiotic were heart palpitations, chest pains, and skin rashes. Since I don’t have those symptoms then he doesn’t think my feeling unwell is due to the antibiotic, even though I feel better now they’ve stopped giving it to me.

  • The nurse clearly told me in English they had to “open the wound’ on my cheek” to do something. I said in that case please give me pain killer because I don’t want pain. But the doctor said Nooooo, they are simply going to change the dressing.

So what did I learn from all this?

  • I think I was correct in (our) thinking that surgery would not be a cure, but hopefully it would give me more “quality of life”.
  • There is a language problem.
  • Thai doctors and nurses are not used to people – mainly Westeners –  asking questions and get peeved when we do. The Thai patients never ask questions, which is a big mistake. As I said to the doctor tonight, I am not a doctor, but I’m just telling them my concerns, but it’s a language problem. Please don’t think I’m criticizing anybody.
  • No comment needed unless you disagree with what I said.

19 September 2022, 8:33 AM Steve wrote:

Thanks Chris.

  • A bothersone problem is the cyst at the back of the throat — they gave some throat spray for temporary relief which doesn’t help much.
  • Another issue I have constipation. No dumps 2 days. So I told them I had this years ago for weeks and NOTHING worked (I tried many things) until someone suggested a PROBIOTIC. Bought a good one called “Primal Defence” and it cleared it up in one day, as if magic. This morning they told me they have to follow the hospital rules          (groan, I never like rules) and give me a laxative. But if they doesn’t work they will let me try the probiotic.
  • They changed the dressing this morning and said it would remain on for another 4 to 5 days.
  • The doc who came gave me more info about the operation. As far as I understand, they took out all the tumors, but did not remove all of the gland in case it damaged the nerve. He said the surgery doc was very careful about this. They could not see any more cancer by eye in the remaining bits of gland. Forgot to ask about the lymph node. So I suggest we can call it a win for now Chris.

21 September 2022, 10:12 AM Steve wrote:

Good morning Chris.

  • They removed the bandages and drain tube this morning. Will be discharged to go home today.
  • But when they removed the bandages the young doctors immediately saw an “abnormality” behind the right ear.

The surgeon came and said as follows.

  • He removed most of the tumors, as far as he can see by eye, but he could not remove all the margins in order to prevent more serious nerve damage. However, the cancer had spread like branches of a tree so he could not remove everything. Maybe 99%.
  • But they have now seen signs of skin lesions over the scalp and possible tumor behind the ear. By his demeanor I could tell he was concerned. This requires further investigation to see the origins of this progression.
  • He mentioned they might recommend light radiation on the troublesome areas as a palliative measure.
  • I said I understood completely, but there comes a time when we must just consider palliative care and quality of life. This was never meant as a cure.
  • He said we can discuss with the radiologist after several weeks. I said that’s fine, because I want to discuss this with my herbalist. He was very open and agreeable to this, not anti herbs at all.
  • He also said that he would make another appointment at S Hospital in about 10 days and he specifically asked my daughter to go with me. When a doc says that I know the news will not be good. I get that.

So Chris, perhaps we can wait to see if they can find out more about the skin problem and then consider what herbs to try, and whether or not to do radiation or other types of intervention. Let me know what you think when you get time.

  • Three days cleaning wound at home, and on 3rd day go to some clinic to remove the stitches. 
  • Day by day we do the best we can. Just want to go on a trip somewhere with my family. 

21 September 2022, 12:46 Steve wrote:

  • Actually, I don’t feel well at all at the moment. Heavy head and some discomfort around the incision.
  • Sore throat.
  • Hopefully just trauma from the surgery but I feel worse than before except for the lump removed.
  • BP high.
  • I can walk and talk.
  • So my feeling is to restart your herbs now, rather than wait until I see the doc again.
  • Can I continue with some or all of the herbs you sent me?

As far as I know:

  1. Cancer on the cheek and neck area.
  2. Parotid gland cancer largely removed. 99%?
  3. “Abnormality” behind right ear.
  4. Lymph node unknown status right now.
  5. Maybe skin cancer on scalp, unknown cause.
  6. Possibility going to brain. Doc asked if I had any symptoms. Heavy feeling on brain but can think ok.
  7. Cyst on throat. Unknown status.

I just follow your advice Chris. Nothing else I can do now. Day by day. Try to stay positive.

21 September 2022, 8:24 PM Steve wrote:

  • Now at home. Main problem is throat is quite bad. Cyst? Bandages pressing on throat? Effect of op/meds? Cancer? Cough mixture type stuff from doc has little effect.
  • Inclined to try your PAIN HERB as you suggest.
  • Wouldn’t feel so bad without the throat problem.
  • It is now just 4th day after major op. Must be patient.
  • Advised to go to any clinic to renew dressing around the face to protect the incision for next 3 days.
  • So my feeling is to restart your herbs now, rather than wait until I see the doc again.


23 September 2022, 9:24 AM Steve wrote:

  • Yesterday I had the bandages removed and the dressing replaced over the surgery wound  at the Camillian Hospital near to where I live, according to written instructions from S Hospital.
  • The doc there remarked that he thought the surgeon did a very good job.
  • About 3 hours after that I had quite severe pain over the cheek area of maybe 7 to 8 on the 0 to10 pain scale.
  • I took 1 tbs of your PAIN HERBS and the pain subsided to maybe a 2 to 3.
  • I don’t think the S Hospita-supplied cough medicine type stuff does much good.

I’ve since looked online and found that pain after major surgery can last for several weeks.

24 September 2022, 9:29 PM Steve wrote:

  • RESTARTING HERBS – I agree not really necessary now, and in any case I need a rest after the surgery ordeal, and maybe go away with my family.
  • STATUS – Today had the stitches removed. Doc said the wound looked good. I did one Ibuprofen 400 mg pain meds prior to this.
  • In afternoon felt quite well, better than before, but at around 7 p.m. felt a sharp pain on the brain, which concerned me so I had a glass of PAIN herb and a bit later 1 more Ibuprofen med. As at 8:30 pm pain much less and I feel relatively OK.
  • So Chris, unless you have anything particular to say, I will leave you in peace and not use up your valuable time so much.

29 September 2022, 5:47 AM Steve wrote:

  • My status about the same. Fairly constant pain around 3 to 4/10.
  • Uncomfortable feeling and numbness (nerve damage) on the cheek near the right ear, where there appears to be bruising.
  • Still constant sore throat, but better than the days after the op.
  • Still able to do a few things to keep me busy, as long as I don’t try to do too much when I feel ill.
  • About pain meds. You might not agree with the following. I understand.

I was discharged from S Hospital without any guidance on pain management, except a bunch of pills to help nerve damage, various cough mixture potions, sleeping pills, and some PARACETAMOL for pain! Unknown to me, one of the staff suggested to my wife to buy IBUPROFEN for pain control.

  • After a few days I found the cough mixtute stuff quite ineffective so stopped taking it, or taking very little.
  • Otherwise, I do take the nerve and sleeping pills (most nights). I also take meds to allow me to pee (BPH), and eye drops for eye pressure (to prevent glaucoma), and another eye drop (for cataracts).

1 December 2022, 4:11 PM Steve wrote:

  • My condition has deteriorated.

3 December 2022, 2:28 PM Steve wrote:

  • Please tell me if these updates are of no use to you, and just cluttering up your email IN box. I will understand.

Most interesting trip to the government N Hospital.

  • I first saw a young female doc at their Pain Management section. Very good doc who listened intently to what I had to say and asked pertinent questions. She prescribed a morphine based med to take if the pain reached a 5+ level. 
  • Then on to their Palliative Care section where a nurse and a woman in civilian clothes spoke at length to my daughter in Thai. This person is a university lecturer and found my story interesting and asked if she could share it with her students. I said absolutely she can if she thinks it would be helpful to them. Gives me some purpose in life if anything substantial came out of it. They exchanged contact details for follow-ups. I’ve asked my daughter to send her my prostate cancer story which is online.
  • Then there is an ENT doc who doesn’t impress me much. He’s paranoid about Covid for one thing. He  refused to offer assistance and told me to go back to S Hospital. Oh well, sometimes this happens in life.

4 December 2022, 3:08 PM Steve wrote:

Hello Dr. Chris, 

  • Sorry to say, I only managed to restart the full herb program for one day but felt so unwell that I had to stop.
  • Just one thing to say about the herbs. Maybe you think I’m talking rubbish. You may well be right! Since each of us is an individual with different reactions to things, would it be possible that so many different herbs taken during the day might be counter-productive?
  • They have an English expression “Too many cooks spoil the broth.” Might the same apply to the herbs? Shoot me down in flames if you consider this nonsense.

In remembrance of Stephen Taylor: Part 3: Best Hospital, Best Equipment, Top Surgeon. Let’s Operate!

With surgery you can live longer and have better quality of life

2 September 2022, 9:34 PM Steve wrote:

Hello Dr. Chris,

  • So I went with my daughter (S) to a private hospital to see the specialized surgeon who normally works at the main government S hospital. They would definitely have the best equipment. S and I were rather impressed with him although we only had about 20 minutes to talk.
  • He gave his opinion without being pushy or insisting on anything. He thinks I require surgery. When asked if he was proposing a “cure” he was quite open about it, saying that if the tumor was small they could consider it a cure, but my cancer is more serious. However, the surgery would give me more time and a better quality of life.
  • When asked about the prognosis if I don’t do anything, he did not know but suggested possibly 2 to 3 years, which is what the other doc told me. He said (like other docs have told me) if I do nothing the cancer could spread to other organs, the nerve running through the gland, and to the brain. It could also break out of the skin which would be serious.
  • I did tell him I don’t want radiation or chemo. Surprisingly he said chemo is not used for this type of cancer. He does use radiation but didn’t push it.
  • I asked about his experience with this type of cancer and he said he sees about a new patient every week, or about 50 a year, so I think he has the experience. I did ask for actual data on results but somehow we got sidetracked.
  • One really positive thing as far as I’m concerned is that by using the government hospital the profit motive for the surgeon no longer applies. I have always been suspicious that private hospital docs might recommend a treatment because the hospital admin requires it. Those shareholders must be paid! There is no advantage to the gov surgeon since he gets paid by the government.
  • I did ask the doc if I could wait another month because I would like to try some Chinese herbs, but the doc said that it was inadvisable to wait that long because the cancer appeared to be spreading quickly, and there’s a risk the cancer could spread. This was said as a matter of fact, rather than scare me into doing the surgery. No doc I’ve seen is against using herbs.
  • So if you have time Chris, I would welcome any suggestions from you for any questions to ask. After that we can make a decision. I’m pretty sure I know what you will tell me Chris, but I like the guy and think at least I could go and talk to him again at S Hospital.

Reply 2 September 2022, 11:22 PM:

Thanks Steve for writing and I know you also want  me to reply as soon as possible. OK, I shall try  now.

  • The first point when patients come to me, I would try to understand their mind or mentality and belief system. To me this is the most important aspect of healing — without a positive attitude it is difficult to achieve any healing. Unfortunately, not many patients have that positive attitude.
  • One of the dangerous attitudes is trying to rush or push to get things done, believing that if you don’t do something NOW it is going to be hell — cancer spreads and spreads. My advice is RELAX. Take it easy and cool down. It is with this frame of mind that you can expect to make a rational decision. 

Regarding your problem:

  • Good that you like the surgeon. That is one good point. 
  •  Good that he said he has done such surgery — once a week for so many people. That means he is an expert and knows what he is doing.
  • Good that he recognises that chemo has no role in this.
  • So if you ask me, what is next? The answer is surgery. 
  • BUT my only reservation is, are you sure the doctor can do or deliver that reality (not just his belief). Unfortunately no one can answer this all important question. No guarantee. 
  • My main concern is the side effects of the surgery. This is ABSOLUTELY my main concern. You have to live with the consequences of that decision.
  • When I write this, I remember a patient – his problem was the nose cancer not like yours). He was the dean of a faculty in a university. To him 2+2 is always 4 and it must be 4. As a biologist I told him 2+2 can be 10 or even zero. We have different belief systems.
  • The head has a lot of wires (nerves). Destroy some vital ones and you end up with all kinds of problems. It will be operation after operation and you get mutilated. And there is no going back if this happens.
  • So if you want to have a quick answer — operation is the option but bearing in mind my concern or risk above.
  • This past week  many patients  came to me for help. I have heard their stories — failed chemo, failed

radiotherapy and failed surgery. So  at the end of the day I tell patients — FOLLOW WHAT YOUR HEART SAYS. If you think he is the right expert for you, GO AHERAD. There is no right or wrong answer.

  • As I am writing this, I remember the 16-year old boy with tumours in his mouth. I agreed to him undergoing chemotherapy. Yes, one shot of chemo shrunk the tumour but the second shot killed him. But I cannot say he cannot go for chemo because my herbs could not do the magic that he wanted.

Write me again if you wish to express your concern or opinion.

3 September 2022, 7:37 AM Steve wrote:

Dear Dr. Chris,

  • I am so appreciative of the time you take to reply to my ramblings. I would love to go to Penang to thank you in person. But maybe you don’t want this strange person cluttering up your clinic. Don’t blame you.
  • I think 2 + 2 = the square root of -1. Prove me wrong.
  • Since we all agree, including the doc, that surgery will not “cure” the cancer, but will only extend life, there are no false claims here. So the question then becomes, will the surgery improve my condition and quality of life, or will it make it worse, perhaps a lot worse … and by how much will it extend life? I suppose the answer to the last question is unknown and just an educated guess. This is a question I will try to hammer home to him if I manage to see him on Monday.
  • I’m pretty sure that working at the main S Hospital he is one of the top surgeons in Thailand, and with 50 cases a year, plus the best equipment at S, it stands the best chance of success.
  • Of course, that does not guarantee a good result. But should I turn the offer down? I did start to ask him for actual data for his patients so I can make an informed decision, but he didn’t quite understand what I said and somehow we moved on to other things.

No need to reply Chris. I will write again next week after seeing the doc again. By the way, I forget to say, please let me know if you want something from The Big Mango which you can’t get there.

Reply 3 September 2022, 1:48 PM:

  • Yes, exactly. Cut and remove. No more – cure for a while. You can live longer but with side effects while alive. So there is the trade off here.
  • In my 25 years, I think I only come across less than 5 cases like yours. And he had 50 cases a year like your cancer?  Then he is definitely much better.
  • Yes, in theory everything looks great — I would say, Remove the tumour! Let’s see if the reality is different.
  • If one tumour is removed, I think there is a good chance you need to sacrifice the nerves and you will have to learn to live with it. But if there are more than one tumour, what is he going to do? Remove it/them also? Can he do that? Then what about the lump in the throat? Is he removing that too? Or come back another day to remove it?
  • It looks like you cannot run away from chemo or radiotherapy after the surgery. Ask him that. Unless of course it is a clean cut.
  • Surgery is to done by an expert surgeon with experience who says it is NOT a cure but there’s a good possibility of living 4 to 6 years, compared to say 2 years doing nothing. Two docs have independently given the same time frame. I FULLY AGREE WITH YOU. YES, GO FOR SURGERY. 

3 September 2022, 6:11 PM Steve wrote:

  • Yes  Chris, I understand completely. But the problem is that the herbs/oil did not stop the growth of the tumor which is now quite large. I feel that leaving it longer would be a high risk strategy.
  • As we agreed, the use of herbs for this was a trial. I think they might have slowed the disease a little but did not stop it. But that’s just speculation on my part.
  • So you are asking me to have faith in your unproven modified herbs. That is an awful lot to ask for Chris.
  • And while you have provided many, many examples, and I have several of your books, I haven’t seen anything where you supply stats showing actual numbers of people comparing the outcomes of treatment compared to the herbs. I suppose this data does not exist because nearly everyone you see has tried conventional treatment which failed. 
  • Another point I would like to raise is similar. Standard medicine does have success stories. Many failures of course but it’s not as if it’s total failure. There are quite a number of friends who have had standard therapy and have survived many, many years. Excuse me, but if someone reads your work they will come to the conclusion that (medical) treatment is 100% ineffective. In my case the herbs appear not to have worked.
  • This is in no way a criticism of you Chris. I often have conversations in my head between opposite views to try to decide the best course to take.

So by all means shoot me down in flames about what I said, but I have the choice now of:

  1. Surgery by an expert surgeon with experience who says it is NOT a cure but there’s a good possibility of living 4 to 6 years, compared to say 2 years doing nothing. Two docs have independently given the same time frame.
  • Just use your modified herbs for 1 month on a trial basis, without any evidence that they work, keeping in mind there’s a distinct possibility the cancer will spread to nearby organs with disastrous consequences.
  • I would think 99.9% would chose Option 1. I doubt if you would find anyone like me who would even consider your herbs in this situation.

But at least I’m considering what to do.

  • You must be very tired of this troublesome patient. I value everything you say, so it’s ok. I’m only expressing my doubts and concerns about any treatment including the herbs.

Cheers Chris, and hope to talk to you again next week.

3 September 2022, 7:35 PM Steve wrote:

  • Are you just pulling my leg Chris? Hope I have not angered you just because I’m pointing out the difficulties in anything I might do.
  • If you want to argue your case, I am always ready to listen. Just to say, oh all right have it your way, is not a good argument if you have few answers to my questions. 
  • Perhaps I misunderstand your intention.
  • Are you saying you have just got tired of me wasting your time? Sorry about that but I cannot be expected to be a guinea pig to try out your herbs. 

Reply: 3 September 2022, 7:48 PM:

  • NO, you are right. The only option any cancer patient has is surgery. I am sure of that! If you got breast cancer, colon cancer, etc. if you don’t want to cut — don’t come and see me. That has always been clear from the beginning. But for your case, I don’t know. In my 25 years I have seen less than 5 cases, so can’t say much. So here is where mindset comes in. If you believe surgery is the right choice, go for it.
  • My herbs cure??? NO, never. This is the first reply I send out to all patients who write me. My herbs cannot cure your cancer!

Reply: 3 September 2022, 9:54 PM:

  • You advise people to cut out the tumor first and then try the herbs. Is that correct? YES,  EXACTLY  if it is breast, colon, etc. BUT I would not say do surgery if it is lung, brain or liver cancer — and also your case because I have no experience with this cancer. 

So this is not like one rule that applies to all. My recommendation is based on what I know through my 25 yrs of experience.

  • I just got an email from my old classmate — class 1970s — he has sarcoma in the thigh. He is taking rodent tuber. I told him, it is wrong. Don’t be fooled by those who want to make money. Herbs cannot shrink the tumour or make the cancer go away.  
  • I  would most likely ask him to have it removed, because that is the only sensible thing to do. After that he can take herbs if he believes in what I do. But if he wants to do chemo or radiation, it is up to him. I am not here to influence him or force him to do what he does not want to do. I am here to help patients to get well. Period.
  • So what I say above applies equally to you – exactly that. But again I repeat, in your case, I don’t know if surgery is a sensible option or not due to the sensitivity of the nerves in there.

I hope all is clear.

3 September 2022, 10:01 PM Steve wrote:

  • Ok Chris  if I am wrong then I apologize.
  • As far as I understand it now, you advise people to cut out the tumor first and then try the herbs. Is that correct?
  • I was under the impression that surgery would only apply to isolated tumors such as breast cancer tumors which can be removed, not as in my case multi-node tumors. I’m wrong again I guess. I wanted to avoid surgery for exactly this reason because I don’t see how they can remove multiple tumors.
  • Cheers, but please take a rest. I’m afraid my brain is a bit foggy all the time, so it’s quite possible I miss things.

3 September 2022, 11:16 PM Steve wrote:

Yes, yes, yes, all clear now.

  • For my case, I don’t think anyone knows if the surgery will damage the nerve or not. The surgeon said something about repairing nerve damage. I didn’t go into details. It’s high risk I know, and I would much prefer an integrated approach combining the standard treatments with individual diet and other natural recommendations, but they haven’t progressed that far in Thailand.

6 September 2022, 9.38 AM Steve wrote:

  • Op to remove tumor on cheek scheduled for 17 September 2022 at the Thai main public S Hospital.  One week stay.
  • I think I have taken all views into account, but a decision has to be made, and I think that surgery is the best option available.
  • Reaffirmed this is NOT a cure but hopefully will extend quality of life for maybe 2+ years. I doubt it personally, because the tumor seems to be aggressive and the tumor has started pressing on my ear airway restricting sound. Doc had a look and said it would improve after surgery.
  • The doc assured me that surgery is the best treatment – but he assured me it’s his opinion. At least the profit motive at private hospitals has been avoided.
  • I asked about pain management. He said no problem because they have the drugs (presumably the opioids) which are unavailable outside. (I know your thoughts on pain meds).
  • I have stopped taking the herbs and THC cannabis oil in view of the op. Feel better mentally now.
  • I think the herbs and/or THC cannabis oil MIGHT have slowed down the tumor growth, but maybe it’s just wishful thinking, because I have no real data to support the suggestion. The fact is the lump has grown from a hardly visible bump to a rather large growth on the cheek in 4 months. One doc told me this is usually slow-growing, but it seems aggressive to me.

Dear Chris, don’t waste your valuable time replying right now.

6 September 2022, 5:44 PM.

  • I am glad that you have come to a decision on your own that makes you happy. Okay. Let us hope for the best. I am learning from your experience.

8 September 2022, 11:35 AM, Steve wrote:

Good morning Chris,

  • When I looked in the mirror today I thought the lump on my cheek has grown significantly larger since 2 weeks ago. Naturally, I feel rather uneasy (to say the least) about that, or should I say panicky.
  • But I asked my wife and she assured me it’s the same size with no redness. Still no pain. Feel about the same. Except for pressure due to the lump, and a bit of a sore throat, I feel OK, except lack a lot of energy.
  • But I can walk, talk, eat, and tippy-tap on my mobile OK. Not complaining.
  • As you know, the op is on 17 September, just 9 days away. In the meantime, do you think I should restart your herbs to try to slow down the growth? I will not be restarting the cannabis oil (at least for now) due to the negative psychotic effects it produced.
  • I did tell the surgeon I had stopped both the herbs and the oil. All he said was “good.” Cheers, Steve

Reply: 8 September 2022.

  • Not to complicate anything and make the doctor happy, stop taking the herbs first. It is okay. Take care. Don’t worry too much.

In remembrance of Stephen Taylor   Part 2: Trying CA Care Therapy

Reply 18 June 2022:

Ha, ha, ha, let me I explain why I am so kind (to you)!!!

  • When I first met you in Bangkok we talked like friends and ever since I regard you as my friend, even if you did not continue with our therapy. It is okay. 
  • After all, my mission in life is to help people who need my help. So when you wrote me about your new problem, I have no problem at all. I know you need help again. But let me be frank – I don’t want to act like a “super hero”. I know my limitations and we shall try our best to do what we can to solve it. We do this together.
  • When I help I would do my best to help, applying the best I know how without regards to money! I remember one minister of forestry of Thailand came one night to our center and he asked me: Why do you not collect “doctor’s fee”? Ha, ha, since we started CA Care until now (25+ years) I have never accepted any “consultation fee” no matter how long I talked to patients. So I am also another “kind”!
  • Why do I do such a thing? It is GRATITUDE. I am now 78! And I am healthy without any health problems yet. I was brought up in a village. My parents did not know how to read or write (oh, my father can read a bit of Malay). I struggled and succeeded in life. This is indeed a great blessing that I am what I am today. I know what it is like to be poor and helpless, and  what it is like if you need help. Since I have succeeded well in life, it is now my turn to give back to society and feel this sense of gratitude.
  • Then as a father I am so grateful for being able to bring up my children to succeed in life too. My youngest son is a medical doctor with a Ph D and my daughter also has a Ph D. What a blessing! So in life I have been blessed and I remain grateful. If life has been so kind to me, it is also my turn to be KIND to others.

Steve wrote:

  • Thanks again for being so helpful in this difficult time. I will ask my daughter to keep you informed about my progress, in case I’m no longer able to.

22 June 2022 at 3:50 PM Steve wrote:

Very good – thanks. I know you are very busy, but I’d be interested to know when you get time . . .

  • I suppose you have not looked into Cannabis Oil for cancer since it’s illegal in Malaysia.
  • Well, it was here in Thailand up to a couple of weeks ago, and now dozens of pot shops have opened. Went to one in a shopping mall today.
  • Rick Simpson is a Canadian who first suggested that Cannabis Oil (CO) could cure cancer many years ago when marijuana was illegal everywhere. He claims to have cured his own cancer.
  • Now I realize all this might not be of any interest to you, since it’s illegal in Malaysia, but I thought I would let you know, and to ask if you have any comments about it.
  • Since this salivary gland cancer has come out of nowhere – I haven’t smoked for 40-years, am not a heavy drinker, have followed a mainly veg diet for years for the prostate cancer, and use a small “maintenance dose” of CO at bedtime (helps me sleep) – I’m disappointed to be diagnosed with this new cancer which I understand is quite rare.
  • So sorry to waffle on like this. If you have any comments I would be interested to hear them, but only when you get time from more important matters. Cheers.

Reply 22 June 2022, 10.16 PM.

  • On the day when we started CA Care, I have made up my mind not to get involved with any product that the government considers illegal — no need to stick my neck out. We can also find other plants as substitutes if we know enough botany! Pseudo-botanist cannot figure that out!
  • There are enough herbs — 350 types — that I know are used to help cancer patients, so why bother about cannabis and then get into trouble? Because of that I have no comment on that plant. I have no experience with it. I know that it is used for pain but some 20 years ago I developed Pain Tea which I am still using to this day — no narcotic in the mixture! I cannot say that my pain tea is better than cannabis but I can say that it is effective for pain and has helped a lot of people! If there is a will — there is always a way to figure out how to solve problems.
  • For the diet — yes, I have read a hundred books on nutrition — and came out with a simple guideline. My patients follow that and they got well. What else do I want? Keto diet, this diet and that diet – never mind let them say what they want and what they like. I don’t believe these people really have personal experience with cancer patients. I have seen thousands of cancer patients and I learned from their feed-back — they are my teachers. People write books but do they ever handle cancer patients?
  • I am 78 years old — up to this day I need to eat 1.5 plates of rice — twice a day! My great, great grand parents in China also ate and survived on rice. No they did not know what Keto is or what high protein diet is, etc., yet they survived! And I survived and am healthy today — no diabetes, no cholesterol (ooooops – never bother to check) no high blood, etc. Take away rice from me, I die tomorrow!

4 July 2022 at 1:39 PM Steve wrote:

Dear Dr. Chris,

  • I know you must be very busy, so no need to reply unless you want to make a particular point. If this information is of any help to others, you are welcome to share it.

4 July 2022 at 5:47 PM Steve wrote:

Hello Chris,

  • I think my condition is about the same. Some better days, some worse. No chemo for me! I’ll live with the swelling.
  • If the condition does not improve in (say) another week, could I resume the THC Cannabis Oil? I’m afraid of same negative interaction with the herbs, which is why I stopped.
  • Just enjoyed a brief stay with my wife, daughter and her boyfriend at a local hotel.  Cheered me up to see them.

12 July  2022 at 3:17 PM Steve wrote:

  • Fantastic — thanks a zillion Dr. Chris. Also thanks for sending the Pain Tea. Actually, I don’t think I should take it now, since I don’t have any pain as such. But probably useful for the future.
  • After feeling worse at the beginning of the 2nd week mainly due to a heavy feeling on the brain so I can’t concentrate clearly, after a few days  the symptoms improved somewhat.
  • Sometimes I feel almost “normal” whatever that means for a 76 year old !! (You should know). It’s difficult to quantify since sometimes the brain heaviness returns for a few hours but then goes away again.
  • Fairly constant mild sore throat, but seems a little better than a month or so ago. I’m sure the antibiotics I was taking then didn’t help with the symptoms at all but only made them worse. Doctors !!
  • All in all, not doing badly and it’s given me a chance to rush around madly trying to sort out the financial stuff before I collapse in a heap. Hopefully, your herbs will prevent that scenario. Taking the herbs as per directions. Mainly veg diet with a little fish or prawns. Rice soup is OK with the sore throat. Green leafy salads. Green tea.

29 July 2022 at 2:35 PM Steve wrote:

Dear Dr. Chris, Completed 1-month on CA CARE herbs.

  • Condition seems stable. I think the lump on the right cheek is a bit larger.
  • No or little pain as such (not taking pain herbs yet), only the pressure felt by the lump and sometimes quite heavy brain feeling causing muzzy head. Get tired easily. Mobile.
  • Sticking to the mainly whole food veg diet + a few supplements like Vit D3, C, Zinc, NAD. Also taking a relatively small amount of 25% cannabis oil.
  • No problems sleeping to date.
  • My conclusion: I think the cancer is probably quite aggressive, and I have doubts whether anything can be done to hold it in check. Still, I will try my best with the above regime.
  • The good thing is that it seems relatively stable, although the lump seems to be bigger. I’m mainly worried if it gets really painful and/or I cannot eat or drink. No use thinking about it I suppose. I mentioned pain management to the gov doc and she said I won’t know because I’ll be in a coma. At least she was honest!!
  • I do have a Living Will saying to not keep me alive for no reason.

26 August 2022, Steve wrote:

  • Completed 2-months on CA CARE herbs, as directed. Continue with THC Cannabis Oil (but increased to 2 – 3 times a day), Diet, and Vitamins as before.
  • Symptoms: Much the same although I think the lump on the cheek is slowly getting larger. Not sure but it does seem more prominent to me. Pressure on the brain continues but I think slightly less than before. Sore throat same. Sleep OK. No pain meds but feel uncomfortable much of the time unless distracted by something.
  • Today I went to see Dr. I at S Hospital in Bangkok. I’ve known him for many years, and he is much better than nearly all other medicos that I know. My daughter who was with me was impressed as well. I gave him the biopsy and MRI scan results, and asked for his opinion. He explained that the parotid gland consists of an inner and outer gland, with a nerve running through the middle of it. He is confident that an experienced surgeon in the field with the right equipment can remove the cancer from both sides without damaging the nerve.
  • I pointed out the MRI refers to multiple nodules with at least 2 larger ones, but the doc still held to his opinion.
  • I said I’m 76 years of age and do not want to go through more stress. The doc said the good news is that these type of cancers are often slow growing (I have my doubts in my case).
  • I said I really do not want to pay a large amount of money to the docs and leave nothing to my family. The doc recommended I go and see Assistant Prof Y (sounds impressive) who’s a head and neck surgeon and can advise, possibly using a government hospital (I am making an appointment to see him).
  • I then got a bit tougher on the doc (well, I do know him) and told him that at my age that of course I’ve known many people who were diagnosed with cancer, went the standard surgery/radiation/chemo route and in the great majority of these cases the patient died. And often the treatment made them worse. The doc said it depends on the surgeon and equipment. He said the problem is the tumor will continue to grow and at some point break through the skin causing dire problems. He also said the growing tumors would eventually affect the nerve in the gland.
  • So I was told more or less what I expected to be told. Don’t scold me too much Dr. Chris, you must be laughing to yourself saying “What did Steve expect them to say!”
  • But at the same time I greatly respect the opinion of Dr. I. Oh, I told him I’m taking Chinese herbs and THC Cannabis Oil, and he listened intently and he did NOT make any negative comment about them and said “They may help but it’s better to remove the tumor itself to lessen the cancer load.” (or words to that effect).

 30 August 2022, 2:08 PM Steve wrote:

Hello Dr. Chris,

  • Sorry to say the lump on my cheek continues to grow. The doc confirmed in comparison with photos I took from last month. Therefore, it would seem quite definite that the herbs have not stopped the size of the tumors increasing, nor has the THC Cannabis Oil.
  • Physically, I’m not too bad. The symptoms of pressure on the brain and sore throat are perhaps somewhat reduced but never go away.
  • Still feels giddy sometimes but the cannabis oil would contribute to that. As mentioned though, lump size is increasing.
  • Mentally is a different story, and I’m not holding up well. I frequently disintegrate into sobbing tears. I try to have positive thoughts but the black moods overwhelm me. Last night was a particularly bad time.
  • So Chris, it looks like I have a choice of doing the surgery which I feel will not cure the problem but perhaps delay onset, or not doing the surgery with the very real risk the cancer will spread to nearby sensitive organs and the brain.
  • As always, I value your honest and straightforward opinion. Don’t worry — I know I’m not going to survive. Thanks. Steve.

UPDATE 30 August 2022:

  • Had appointment today with ENT doc Assoc. Prof. Y at S Hospital, Bangkok.
  • He explained that surgery involves splitting apart the salivary gland so that the cancerous parts are away from the nerve, and then surgically remove the gland and tumors.
  • He inspected my throat with a scope and found a cyst but it seems that’s not so important now. He also found another lump on the throat.
  • He still insists that surgery is the only option (with or without chemo which I would decline anyway).
  • Although doctors are usually very circumspect in what they say, and this one was no exception, my underlying feeling that my case is very serious and unlikely to be resolved, with or without surgery.
  • The problem with not doing the surgery is that the cancer will continue to grow and affect other organs including the brain.
  • He suggested I first see an oncologist — appointment on 2 September 2022.

Reply 30 August 2022:

The tumour is still growing. The herbs and cannabis oil do not work. Accept that. I have been thinking about your problem and how to deal with it. My frank and straight answers are:

  • Surgery. Yes, the tumour will go away the next day – gone. But will the cancer come back again? Nobody can tell.
  • What about the side effects of surgery? Will you be able to open your mouth after that?
  • What if they cut off some of the nerves? I am sure they will do that! Remember, the face has a lot of wiring systems! Any damage can be serious.
  • One patient was promised a nerve sparing surgery for his prostate and ended up impotent. A surgeon’s promise is one thing, the real result is another.
  • So think carefully.
  • Herbs and cannabis oil do not work – do you want to give up ? It is okay, find someone else who can offer a better solution. 
  • Or do you want to make another try? If you want another try — final one — then I suggest the following:
  1. Give me a few days of your life, stop taking the cannabis. Tell me what happen if you do this? Stop it to know if cannabis itself gives you any side effects. Live without it for a while.
  • After you stop cannabis — but if you still have pain, etc. – -take the Pain Tea that I sent you earlier. At first take 3 times a day. You can increase it to 6 x per day. Tell me what happens. If you finish that Pain packet and it does not help at all — I will not ask you to take the pain tea again! So just give me a few days of your life. If the pain tea helps you then we talk again.
  • After I get your feedback, I shall change the herbal teas.
  • After a month, we ask the same question — ARE YOU ANY BETTER? If not better,  I have nothing more to offer.
  • Please consider carefully what you want to do.

31 August 2022 8:55 AM Steve wrote:

Good Morning Dr. Chris, Thank you so much for your straightforward reply. I agree with you 100%.

  • But something you should know. The tumor is hard not soft. The doc remarked on this and said the tumor is usually soft. Actually, I think there are at least 2 larger tumors.
  • I have been thinking long and hard about the best thing to do.
  • Yesterday, I saw  the “Assoc. Prof.” ENT specialist who seemed very competent to me. All the doctors seem good at S Hospital.
  • Although it’s very difficult to get an opinion out of these docs, they always say “up to you” as if I’m the expert. I did get the impression (but nothing more) that the ENT doc thought it was a more serious case than they would like to make out. He said a specialist expert surgeon with the right equipment could open up the salivary gland to expose the nerve which runs through it, and then remove the surrounding gland and cancer.
  • The ENT doc said it needs a specialized surgeon which they can recommend. He said with this operation (with no radiation or chemo), he would expect me to survive 4 to 6 years. I suspect this is a number just made up out of the blue.
  • He said that if I chose not to have the surgery then we can expect the cancer to continue to grow and start affecting other facial organs, the nerve running through the gland, and the brain.
  • He also said there is a small cyst in the esophagus, probably not cancerous, which is the cause of the soreness in the throat. I think this might also be a major problem in the future but I didn’t discuss it much.
  • I have been referred to an oncologist who I will see on Friday. Apparently he knows a specialist surgeon in the government hospital system I might be able to use if he is willing, which would cost half as much as the private hospital. Let’s see what he says.

So right now I think the following:

  • Do NOT go for surgery but palliative care only. Accept the inevitable outcome.
  • Try to make me as comfortable and pain free as possible (but I doubt if they know about that here. Hospices are illegal in Thailand, although I know of 2 in Chiang Mai).
  • Try your suggestions for 1-month.
  • So I’m happy to follow your suggestions.
  • I have stopped the Cannabis Oil from yesterday.
  • Please note I do not have significant pain up to now and have not yet used your Pain herbs. I will tell you if I do use them. Greatly appreciate your help.

1 September  2022, 8:37 PM Steve wrote:

Thanks Chris.

  • Problem is that I already think of this long and hard and it’s making me feel very unwell mentally and physically due to stress and worry.
  • I think the problem may be worse due to the psychoactive effects of the THC Cannabis oil, which I stopped the day before you mentioned it. It may be the lingering effects of THC which I know stays in the system for some timer. I feel a little better today.

In remembrance of Stephen Taylor: Part 1: From Prostate To Parotid Cancers:  

 Why I Would Not Go For Surgery

This is a story of Steve, a friend (and patient). Steve was from UK but was living in Bangkok for many years. It is indeed sad that Steve died after having an operation for his swollen cheek.

My wife and I first met Steve sometime in 2009 in Bangkok when we were there to “repair” our teeth! Steve came to meet us – seeking our advice with regard to his prostate cancer.

Steve was diagnosed with prostate cancer in June 2007 and had undergone Intermittent Triple Androgen Blockage Therapy for one year using Zoladex, Casodex and Avodart. Later he switched to Proscar. He took Vitamin D3, probiotics, Multi-vitamin, Saw Palmetto, Beta-sitostrol, Grape fruit pectin and Ashitaba liquid. He also followed Budwig Protocol. Later he took a certain medication from America. A detailed story of Steve and his prostate cancer is found in Chapter 8 of our book – Prostate Cancer Healed Naturally.

Steve wrote:

  • I did continue over the years with a mainly vegetarian diet (no meat and only very occasionally chicken, no milk) and a small “maintenance dose” of a few drops of cannabis oil before bedtime.

14 June 2022: Some 13 years later, I got an email from Steve again. He wrote:

  • About 6 weeks ago I woke up one morning to find a lump on my cheek causing a mild headache and sore throat. After a few weeks of increasingly strong antibiotics I had a needle biopsy of the lump. Today they told me the sample tested positive for malignant cells and suspected malignant parotid (salivary gland) carcinoma.
  • An MRI “reveals multiple lobulated mass abutting superficial lobe of right parotid gland (causing pressure effect to the gland) and right group II-IV cervical region. It is measured up to 1.9 x 2.3 x 2.4 cm abutting parotid gland and 0.8 x 1.4 x 1.3 cm at right group II cervical regions.”
  • They suggested surgery to remove the lump in my cheek.
  • I have told them that at my age (76) I do not want invasive surgery, radiation, or chemotherapy.
  • I’m not sure about the wisdom of removing the tumor. It might make matters worse and spread cancer cells around.
  • I’m not sure if it would make much difference if the tumor was aggressive or not. Either way I don’t want to do any of the usual treatments.
  • On the other hand, the doc said if the tumor was contained in the mass then removing it could possibly be a cure.
  • But in the MRI report quoted above, I’m not sure if there are more than one tumor. If so, what is the point of removing one of the tumors?
  • So I would like to ask your opinion on whether removing the lump is a good idea or not, and if you think that your herbs might be able to control the cancer.
  • I do intend to carry on the veg diet, together with some supplements like Vitamin D3, C, and Zinc. Also, with a larger dose of THC cannabis oil.

Thanks for any comments you may like to make.

15 June 2022 at 4:01 Steve wrote again:

  • Since there are multiple masses, I don’t see what removing the obvious one on the cheek will achieve.
  • Sure, they can tell what stage the cancer is and whether it’s aggressive or not. My question is: So what, one way or the other?
  • In addition, the surgery is liable to weaken me further. And then there’s the possibility the surgery may have undesirable results, if they cut the nerve for example. The more I think about it, the more I come to the conclusion NOT to remove the main lump.

My reply, 16 June 2022:

  • I totally agree with your take on not going for surgery and possibly chemo later. It does not make sense at all. I also believe such treatments could lead to more problems – not solving the problem.
  • What other options do you have? I have little experience with the salivary gland cancer that you have. This is because it is a rare cancer here. So I cannot say my herbs could solve your problems.
  • So before we jump into what I am doing here, let me share with you that there are also alternative cancer clinics in Bangkok. Perhaps you may want to check your backyard first! Do you want to try and talk to them and see what they can offer you?
  • I have made internet search and found the following … I also know that some Malaysians have gone to Bangkok for treatment. I shall reserve my comments about them, but for the sake of exploring other alternatives why not talk to them?
  • By alerting you to these clinics, at least my conscience is clear — we shall try our best and you make the decision.

Hello Chris,

  • I am aware of the alternative cancer clinics in Bangkok. I also know that these clinics provide hope for some people, but I don’t know the effectiveness of their treatments, and they are not cheap. They would certainly provide a more compassionate environment. Some people think the more money thrown at a problem the better, but I don’t agree.
  • I’m fairly well up on the various alternative cancer treatments. Therefore, there is no need to doubt having  a clear conscience about what you think is best for me, whether that includes herbs or not.
  • I am the type of “difficult” person who always makes my own decisions, and blame it on myself when things go wrong ! You are making suggestions, not recommendations.
  • So Dr. Chris, feel free to offer your honest opinions about the best course of action. Just say what you think Chris. What would you do?

17 June 2022 at 2.14 p.m. Steve wrote:

  • Dr. Chris – I had an appointment today with the ENT specialist at the local government hospital. I asked what treatment (if any) the young lady doc would recommend. The conversation went something like this . . .

Me: Before you give me your opinion, may I please describe my journey with prostate cancer – [from diagnosis of “high risk” prostate cancer 15-years ago, declining ALL docs recommendations for surgery/radiation/chemo, to pursue alternative cancer therapies instead, the MRI 5-years ago could not find cancer, and how everyone else I know who followed the docs advice are now dead].

Doc: That’s remarkable.

Me: So you see, I don’t have much faith in surgery/radiation/chemo, but I want your opinion as to the best way forward.

Doc: I understand, it’s up to you. [typical Thai response, so I pressed further].

Me: The MRI scan shows multiple cancer masses, so what is the point of removing the lump on the cheek?

Doc: It may make you look better without the bump. But there is a danger of damaging the nerve which can cause problems.

Me: Never mind what I look like, that’s not a major concern. What I would like is your honest opinion on the recommended treatment. At my age (76) there is no point in treatment which extends life for a few months. But never mind what I think – what is your opinion?

Doc: I understand but it’s a personal choice for you to decide.

Me: Well, my choice is not to go the surgery/radiation/chemo route, but to try with a low carb vegetarian diet plus cannabis oil.

  • We then discussed pain relief at end of life, which she certainly understood but was non-committal, probably for legal reasons.
  • So Chris, what I would like to know from you is whether you think your herbs might possibly help. No guarantees I know. But I’m willing to give it a go to see if there is any improvement. But I will continue with THC cannabis oil (if I can get it) + veg diet + Amygdalin (low dose).
  • Sorry to take up your time with this, but at least you know that I will keep you fully informed about developments, if I’m capable of doing so. Cheers, Steve

My reply 17 June 2022:

  • Okay – we have gone through for a bit about what to do. I must say frankly and sincerely, DO WHAT YOU THINK IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO that makes you happy.
  • Yes, your reasons for being skeptical about surgery and follow-up chemo is justified. I did not know how horrible surgery could be until I saw one more time these pictures in the article I sent you. 


So settled — these are the options you may wish to consider:

  • ONE: You continue to do what you are doing now. Take whatever supplements you are taking and follow whatever diet you are now following. I would not comment on them because I have NO firsthand experience about them.
  • Hope things will turn out to be the way it is — no discomforts or deterioration. Live a happy life and don’t think so much because the road ahead that you are going to take may be just as dangerous. 
  • In Thailand now you can grow cannabis. May be you can spend time doing that. In Malaysia they “cut your head off”  if you do that.
  • TWO: You can try our herbs for a month and see if you like them, at the same time you can still continue with what you are doing as in ONE
  • Try first but if you think that the herbs are not helping you — there is no reason to continue taking them! 


  • Know first that your cancer is a rare one so I cannot say much whether you can benefit from the herbs or not. However, from my experiences in dealing with thousands of other cases I can say the following may happen:
  • The lump in the neck may grow bigger after taking the herbs. I am sorry this is not what we want, but what can we do? 
  • In dealing with tumuor in the uterus I always warn my patients that after a month or two on herbs, the tumour will grow in size first. Scan shows it grows bigger!!! Then gradually with time the size starts to shrink. That is normal and expected. I learned this years ago when one young lady had a fibroid in her uterus!
  • But in your case, if the size of the lump grows bigger it is scary!!!!! What is going on? So can you accept that possibility? If you persist it may grow bigger or smaller? I don’t know.
  • The lump remains as it is — not big and not small. Well, at least you can learn to live with it as long as it does not cause any harm.
  • With time — I don’t expect any time soon — the lump gets smaller. I have no experience with parotid tumour but the swelling in the neck due to lymphoma DID shrink in some patients. 
  • Examples: One young law student. The lump around his neck disappeared after 8 months (sorry, not in one or 2 months … eight months!). Another patient, Siew Low had 3 small lumps in his neck after 1 year of failed chemo. The lumps disappeared after THREE years. An Indonesian lady had a hard lump on her cheek after 6 or 8 rounds of failed chemo. After 2 to 3 years on herbs the lump was gone.

So you see, for lymphoma I have lots of hope and confidence.

So pick your choice. That is my honest assessment of the situation. Take care, Chris

Cancer Patients Don’t Need to Be Ignorant Anymore. If you want any information just ask your computer!

The past few weeks people in the world of information technology really got excited about ChatGPT. I too was caught in the new “excitement”. The answer that I was curious to know is – are the answers I get from ChatGPT factually reliable? My initial impression is Yes, ChatGPT can give you good answers to your problems. At least these answers will get you going. And you can ask more and more questions as you learn more and more. In this way, at least you become knowledgeable by just clicking a button of your computer. Also it is all for free.

Second, is ChatGPT easy to use? Yes, absolutely! Just register and sign in at: https://chat.openai.com/chat

Let me share with you my first experience interacting with my computer using ChatGPT.

My first question to ChatGPT. I find a lump in my breast, what do I do now?

I asked this question three times and I got three answers as below:

The first answer I was given:

Finding a lump in your breast can be concerning, but it’s important to remember that most breast lumps are not cancerous.

However, it’s still essential to take this seriously and seek medical attention promptly.

Here are some steps you can take:

  1. Schedule an appointment with your doctor: Make an appointment with your primary care physician, gynecologist, or a breast specialist as soon as possible.
  • Prepare for your appointment: Before your appointment, make a list of any symptoms you have noticed, such as the size, shape, or texture of the lump, or any pain or discharge from the nipple. You should also gather any relevant medical history, such as family history of breast cancer.
  • Physical examination: Your doctor will likely perform a physical examination, feeling the lump and checking for any other abnormalities.
  • Diagnostic tests: Depending on the results of the physical exam, your doctor may recommend further diagnostic tests, such as a mammogram, ultrasound, or biopsy. These tests will help determine the nature of the lump and whether it’s cancerous or not.
  • Follow-up: Depending on the results of the tests, your doctor may recommend monitoring the lump or further treatment. If it is cancerous, early diagnosis and treatment increase your chances of successful treatment and recovery.

Remember that it’s essential to stay calm and not jump to conclusions. The majority of breast lumps are benign, but it’s important to get a proper diagnosis and treatment plan.

My comment: Very good advice. That is the way to go!!!!

Second Answer I got:

If you have found a lump in your breast, it is important to take immediate action. Here are the steps you should take:

  1. The first step is to schedule an appointment with your primary care physician or a gynecologist. They can perform a clinical breast exam and determine if further testing is needed.
  • Depending on the results of the clinical breast exam, your doctor may recommend a mammogram or ultrasound. These tests can provide more detailed images of the breast tissue and can help determine if the lump is a cyst or a solid mass.
  • If the mammogram or ultrasound shows that the lump is solid, your doctor may recommend a biopsy. A biopsy is a procedure in which a small piece of tissue is removed from the lump and sent to a laboratory for analysis.
  • If the biopsy confirms that the lump is cancerous, your healthcare provider will discuss treatment options with you. If the lump is benign, your doctor may recommend continued monitoring or removal of the lump.

It’s important to remember that not all breast lumps are cancerous. However, it’s always better to be safe and have any lump checked out by a healthcare provider as soon as possible.

My comment: Equally very good advice!

The Third Answer I got:

If you have found a lump in your breast, the first thing you should do is schedule an appointment with a healthcare professional. This could be your primary care physician, a gynecologist, or a breast specialist.

It’s important to have the lump evaluated as soon as possible, even if it doesn’t seem to be causing any pain or discomfort.

During your appointment, your healthcare professional will perform a physical examination of your breasts and may order imaging tests such as a mammogram, ultrasound, or MRI. They may also recommend a biopsy, which involves taking a small sample of tissue from the lump for examination under a microscope.

It’s important to remember that most breast lumps are not cancerous.

However, if cancer is detected, early diagnosis and treatment can significantly improve your chances of a successful outcome. So, it’s important to take any breast changes seriously and seek medical attention promptly.

In addition, you can also perform monthly breast self-exams to help detect any changes in your breasts. If you notice any changes, including lumps, nipple discharge, or skin changes, make an appointment with your healthcare professional right away.

My comment: Very good advice indeed!

My next question to ChatGPT. The doctor said the lump is not cancerous. What do I do now?

The first answer I got:

If your doctor has determined that the lump in your breast is not cancerous, that is good news. However, you should still follow any recommendations or guidelines provided by your doctor for monitoring the lump or any other changes in your breasts.

Depending on the size and location of the lump, your doctor may recommend regular monitoring, which may include regular breast exams and imaging tests such as mammograms or ultrasounds. They may also recommend that you continue to perform monthly breast self-exams to stay aware of any changes.

It’s important to continue to be vigilant about any changes in your breasts and to follow up with your doctor if you notice any new lumps, changes in the size or shape of your breasts, or any other concerning symptoms.

Your doctor may also discuss ways to reduce your risk of developing breast cancer, such as maintaining a healthy lifestyle, limiting alcohol consumption, and getting regular exercise.

The second and third answers I got are similar to the first answer above. There is however this addition:

Additionally, maintaining a healthy lifestyle, including eating a balanced diet, exercising regularly, limiting alcohol consumption, and not smoking, can help reduce your risk of developing breast cancer in the future.

My third question to ChatGPT. The doctor said the lump is cancerous. What do I do now?

I also asked this question 3 times and these are what I got.

The first answer I got.

If your doctor has determined that the lump in your breast is cancerous, it’s important to take action as soon as possible.

Here are some steps you can take:

  1. Receiving a cancer diagnosis can be overwhelming, so it’s important to seek support from family, friends, or a support group. You may also consider seeing a mental health professional to help you cope with the emotional impact of the diagnosis.
  • Your doctor will likely recommend a treatment plan based on the type and stage of the cancer. This may include surgery, radiation therapy, chemotherapy, hormone therapy, or targeted therapy.

It’s important to discuss the risks and benefits of each treatment option with your doctor to make an informed decision.

  • It’s always a good idea to get a second opinion from another doctor to confirm the diagnosis and explore all available treatment options.
  • Take care of your health: It’s important to maintain a healthy lifestyle, including eating a balanced diet, exercising regularly, and getting enough sleep. This can help improve your overall health and may also help you better tolerate cancer treatment.
  • You will likely need to see your doctor regularly for follow-up visits, including imaging tests and blood work, to monitor your progress and ensure that the cancer has not returned.

Remember, a cancer diagnosis is not a death sentence, and there are many resources available to help you navigate this challenging time. With proper treatment and support, many people are able to overcome cancer and lead full and healthy lives.

The second answer I got:

If your doctor has determined that the lump in your breast is cancerous, it’s important to take action as soon as possible.

Here are some steps you can take:

  1. Your doctor will discuss your treatment options with you and help you understand the best course of action based on the type and stage of the cancer.
  • It’s always a good idea to get a second opinion from another doctor to confirm the diagnosis and to explore additional treatment options.
  • Treatment options for breast cancer can include surgery, radiation therapy, chemotherapy, targeted therapy, or a combination of these. Your doctor will recommend the best treatment plan for you based on your specific situation.
  • A breast cancer diagnosis can be overwhelming, and it’s important to seek emotional support from loved ones, support groups, or a mental health professional.
  • It’s important to maintain a healthy lifestyle, including a balanced diet, regular exercise, and stress management, as this can help support your overall health and well-being during treatment.

Remember, early detection and treatment can significantly improve your chances of a successful outcome. So, it’s important to stay vigilant about any changes in your breasts and to seek medical attention promptly if you notice anything unusual.

The third answer I got:

If your doctor has determined that the lump in your breast is cancerous, it’s understandable to feel scared and overwhelmed.

However, it’s important to remember that there are effective treatments available, and early detection and treatment can significantly improve your chances of a successful outcome.

The next steps will depend on the specific type and stage of breast cancer, as well as other individual factors such as your age, overall health, and personal preferences.

Your doctor will work with you to develop a personalized treatment plan, which may include surgery, radiation therapy, chemotherapy, hormone therapy, or targeted therapy.

It’s important to ask your doctor any questions you may have about your diagnosis and treatment options, and to seek a second opinion if you feel unsure or want more information.

You may also want to consider joining a support group or seeking counseling to help you cope with the emotional aspects of a breast cancer diagnosis.

In addition to following your treatment plan, it’s important to maintain a healthy lifestyle, including a balanced diet, regular exercise, and avoiding smoking and excessive alcohol consumption. This can help support your overall health and well-being during your breast cancer journey.

My comment: The above 3 answers are just very sensible. Wonderful!

My fourth question to ChatGPT. Why do you want me to find a second opinion?

The first answer I got:

As an AI language model, I cannot provide medical advice or make specific recommendations about your health. However, it is generally recommended to seek a second opinion when diagnosed with a serious medical condition like breast cancer. This is because getting a second opinion can provide additional information and help you make a more informed decision about your treatment options.

A second opinion can help confirm the initial diagnosis and ensure that the right treatment plan is chosen for your specific type and stage of breast cancer. It can also provide you with more information about potential treatment options and their risks and benefits. Additionally, seeking a second opinion can give you peace of mind and help you feel more confident in the decisions you make about your health.

Your primary care physician or oncologist can refer you to another specialist for a second opinion. It’s important to find a healthcare provider who specializes in breast cancer treatment and has experience treating patients with similar diagnoses.

Overall, seeking a second opinion is a reasonable and proactive step to take when dealing with a breast cancer diagnosis, as it can help you make informed decisions about your care and ensure that you receive the best possible treatment.

Second answer I got:

As an AI language model, I do not have access to your medical records, but it is generally recommended that individuals diagnosed with breast cancer seek a second opinion.

Getting a second opinion means that you are consulting with another healthcare provider, such as another oncologist, to confirm the accuracy of your diagnosis and treatment plan. This can help ensure that you are receiving the best possible care and that all treatment options have been considered.

In some cases, different doctors may have different perspectives on the diagnosis and treatment of breast cancer. Seeking a second opinion can help you gain a more complete understanding of your options and help you make an informed decision about your care.

It is important to note that seeking a second opinion does not necessarily mean that you do not trust your current doctor. Rather, it is a way to confirm that your diagnosis and treatment plan are accurate and appropriate for your specific case.

In addition to seeking a second opinion, it is important to communicate openly with your healthcare team and ask any questions you may have about your diagnosis and treatment options. They can provide you with more information and help you make informed decisions about your care.

The third answer I got:

As an AI language model, I cannot provide medical advice or make diagnoses. However, it is generally recommended that patients seek a second opinion when they receive a cancer diagnosis or are recommended for a specific treatment plan.

Getting a second opinion can provide several benefits, including:

  1. Confirmation of diagnosis: Another medical professional can review your medical records, test results, and imaging scans to confirm the initial diagnosis.
  • Treatment options: A second opinion may provide you with additional treatment options that were not presented initially.
  • Peace of mind: Seeking a second opinion can provide you with peace of mind knowing that you are making an informed decision about your treatment plan.
  • Risk of misdiagnosis: Although rare, misdiagnoses can happen. Seeking a second opinion can help prevent or correct a misdiagnosis.
  • Personalized treatment plan: Different doctors may have different approaches to treating cancer, and a second opinion can help you find the best treatment plan for your unique situation.

It is important to remember that seeking a second opinion is not a sign of mistrust in your current doctor or medical team. It is a proactive step to ensure that you are receiving the best possible care and treatment options for your individual needs.

My fifth question to ChatGPT. You recommended that I ask the doctors about my diagnosis and treatment options. What are some important questions to ask?

The first answer I got:

When seeking a second opinion or discussing your diagnosis and treatment options with your doctor, it’s important to ask questions to fully understand your situation and make informed decisions about your care. Here are some questions that you may want to ask:

  1. What type of breast cancer do I have?
  2. What is the stage of my breast cancer?
  3. What are my treatment options?
  4. What are the potential risks and benefits of each treatment option?
  5. Which treatment option do you recommend, and why?
  6. What are the chances of recurrence?
  7. What are my chances of survival?
  8. How will the treatment affect my quality of life?
  9. How long will the treatment last?
  10. What kind of support and resources are available to me during and after treatment?

These are just some of the questions you may want to ask your doctor. It’s important to remember that every situation is unique, so you may have additional questions based on your specific circumstances. Don’t be afraid to ask as many questions as you need to feel comfortable and informed about your diagnosis and treatment options.

The second answer I got:

When seeking a second opinion or discussing your diagnosis and treatment options with your doctor, it can be helpful to ask questions that can help you make informed decisions about your care. Here are some important questions you might consider asking:

  1. What is my diagnosis, and what stage is my cancer?
  2. What are my treatment options, and what are the risks and benefits of each?
  3. What is the goal of each treatment option, and how likely is it to achieve that goal?
  4. What are the potential side effects of each treatment, and how can they be managed?
  5. How will treatment affect my daily life, including my ability to work or care for my family?
  6. How long will treatment last, and how often will I need to come in for appointments?
  7. What is the success rate of each treatment option, and what is the likelihood of recurrence?
  8. Are there any clinical trials or new treatments available that might be appropriate for me?
  9. How much experience do you and your medical team have in treating this type of cancer?
  10. How can I best take care of myself during treatment, and what support services are available to me?

Remember that these questions are just a starting point, and you may have other questions or concerns specific to your situation. Don’t be afraid to ask for clarification or more information if you don’t understand something your doctor says. The more informed you are about your diagnosis and treatment options, the better equipped you will be to make decisions that are right for you.

My sixth question to ChatGPT. If I ask too many questions, the doctors may get angry with me?

The first answer I got:

No, it is not likely that doctors will get angry with you for asking questions about your diagnosis and treatment options. In fact, most doctors encourage their patients to ask questions so they can fully understand their medical condition and make informed decisions about their care.

As a patient, it is your right to understand your diagnosis and treatment options fully. Doctors understand that receiving a cancer diagnosis can be overwhelming, and they want to support you throughout your treatment process. If you have concerns about asking too many questions, you can schedule a longer appointment or request that the doctor explains things to you in simpler terms.

Remember that the more information you have, the better equipped you are to make decisions about your treatment. Don’t be afraid to ask questions and seek clarification about your medical condition.

It’s completely understandable to have many questions and concerns when facing a breast cancer diagnosis, and you should never feel discouraged from asking your doctor as many questions as you need to fully understand your situation and make informed decisions about your care.

As healthcare professionals, doctors are trained to provide information, answer questions, and support patients throughout their diagnosis and treatment journey. It’s their responsibility to ensure that you have all the information you need to make informed decisions about your care.

If you feel uncomfortable or discouraged from asking questions, it may be helpful to find a doctor or healthcare team that is more open and supportive of your needs. Ultimately, your health and well-being are the top priority, and it’s important to find a healthcare team that makes you feel comfortable and supported throughout your breast cancer journey.

The second answer I got:

No, you should not worry about asking too many questions or making your doctor angry. Asking questions is an important part of the doctor-patient relationship, and your doctor should be willing to answer your questions and address your concerns.

In fact, doctors appreciate patients who are actively involved in their care and who ask questions to better understand their health and treatment options. Asking questions can help you make informed decisions about your care and help your doctor tailor your treatment plan to your individual needs.

If you are concerned about overwhelming your doctor with too many questions, you can ask for their guidance on what questions are most important to ask based on your individual situation. You can also take notes during your appointment or bring a family member or friend with you to help you remember the questions you want to ask.

Remember, your health is your top priority, and it’s important to have open communication with your doctor to ensure that you are receiving the best possible care.

The third answer I got:

As a language model, I cannot predict how individual doctors may react to a patient’s questions. However, it’s important to remember that asking questions is an essential part of being an active participant in your healthcare. It’s natural to have concerns and want to know more about your diagnosis and treatment options.

Most healthcare professionals encourage patients to ask questions and engage in their healthcare decisions. Asking questions can help ensure that you fully understand your diagnosis, treatment options, and potential risks and benefits.

If you’re worried about asking too many questions, you can start by prioritizing your most important concerns and questions. This can help ensure that you cover the most important topics first. You can also ask for clarification or additional information if you don’t fully understand a topic.

Remember that you have the right to know and understand your diagnosis and treatment options. If you feel that your doctor is dismissive or unresponsive to your questions, you may want to consider seeking a second opinion or discussing your concerns with another healthcare provider.

Thank you very much for your very intelligent answers!

You’re welcome! I’m glad that I could provide you with helpful information. If you have any more questions or concerns, please don’t hesitate to ask.

Comment: Look, the computer is like a human being now!!! The answer is very polite and factually correct.

To all patients, remember that ignorance kills! Now with this modern age AI technology there is no reason why we need to be ignorant anymore. Seek knowledge yourself. It is easy – just click the button on your computer!!!!!