RS is a 51-year-old Indonesia lady.  About two years ago, she passed out blood-stained stools. The doctor in her hometown said she had a tumour in her rectum.  RS was told to have it removed. She refused to undergo an operation. She said, I was afraid! She then opted for herbal therapy.

• RS was given three types of herbal capsules. The herbalist told her that within three months she would be cured.
• Three months came, nothing much happened. RS was told to take other capsules for another three months. Again nothing happened.
• RS continued taking the capsules for another three months.
• After a total of nine months on the herbal capsules, something happened. Her condition deteriorated!

RS  then switched to taking daun binahong tea and also used a type of spray for the mouth. You can read how great these products are in the internet. The spray that she used cost IDR 1.8 million per bottle.

RS never found any relief (let alone cure) from what she did. She and her daughter came to consult a doctor in a private hospital in Penang.

A colonoscopy confirmed an ulcerative tumour at the distal rectum involving the anal canal. CT scan showed an irregular lesion in the lower rectum measuring 1.5 to 2.0 cm in thickness. No evidence of distant metastasis.

RS’s daughter wrote me an email (unedited):

dear Dr Chris,

advise doktor that my mom has to operation, cut her rektum. is it only the way dok,? but we hope with another way. now my mom at XX hospital dok, do colonoscopy and ct scan. may i sent you the result of medical check up before we come. thank you.

Reply: No need to send the reports. Just come and see me and I’ll tell you what to do.

RS and her daughter came to CA Care. Listen to our conversation that morning.

 

 

The gist of our conversation

Part 1: Go for surgery

Chris: Tell me what happened from the very beginning.

Daughter: She passed out blood in her stools.

C: When was that?

RS: About two years ago.

C: What did you do?

R: I went to see a doctor and did a colonoscopy. There was a tumour in the rectum.

C: The doctor asked to operate but you did not want? Why?

R: I was afraid!

Herbal Capsule — Herbalist said can cure!

C: So did you go to the bomoh (sharman) and do jampi-jampi (chanting)?

R: No. I went to a herbalist and he gave me three types of herbal capsules.

C: How long were you on this capsules?

R: About 9 months. After that I stopped.

C: Before you took the herbal capsules, did you ask if these can cure you?

R: I did ask and he said, yes — can cure!

Daughter: The herbalist said can cure.

C: Can cure? After how  long?

R: The herbalist said take the herbs for 3 months, and I would be cured.

C: And did it cure you after 3 months?

R: No. So the herbalist said take for another 3 months?

C: Was it the same herbs? And are they more expensive?

R: He gave me different herbs. Yes, it cost more now.

C: So, you took the herbs for another 3 months.

R: I took a total of 9 months and I gave up. It did not cure me and I had more pain.

C: Did you ask him why the herbs did not cure you?

R: He asked me to continue taking the herbs!

Switched to binahong tea and spray

R: I stated to take herbal tea — binahong. The leaves of a creeping plant.

D: Boil the leaves as tea.

R: And I took it every morning.

D: Mom also use a spray (for the mouth). It is actually a nutritional supplement. It cost IDR 1.8 million per bottle.

C: Are you on all these now?

R: No more.

Doctor in Penang

C: Then you came to Penang and did a colonoscopy. What did the doctor ask you to do after that?

D: Operate, but mom did not want it.

C: Did you ask the doctor is surgery is going to cure you?

R: Never ask.

C: Did he say you need chemo after the operation?

D: The doctor said after the operation, mom can live a normal life.

C: Did he said, mama need to use a colostomy bag?

D: Ya. The doctor also said, if the cancer has spread, then mom has to go for chemotherapy.

C: How much is the operation going to cost you?

D & R: About RM25,000.

Go to Dr. X to your surgery

C: Removing the tumour would not kill you! It is okay. But remember that NOT all doctors are the same. Some do a good job, some don’t. If I were you, I would NOT think too much. Believe me, go for the operation. But let’s find a good surgeon for you! Yes, this is important — who can do a good job for you.

I know of one colorectal surgeon who is good. I have sent a few patients to him. He is a good person and did a good job. But I also want you to know that I do not get any financial incentive (professional they call it referral fee!) by asking you to go and see him. NO, I don’t do such thing — making money that way. What knowledge God gives me, I would share that with my patients without any fee.

So, I suggest that you go to Dr. X for the surgery. If you don’t want to go to Dr. X, of course, you can go to Singapore. But that is going to cost you three times more!

After the surgery, the doctor may want you to do chemo. If you want to do chemo, go ahead. But if you don’t want to go for chemo, you can come back to see me again after that, about 2 weeks after the surgery. Bring along all the medical reports.

If you don’t want to go ahead with the chemo, let the doctor know that you want to take herbs. As I have said, a few of my patients just did that. They had the operation but no chemo.

 

 

Part 2: My advice — why you need surgery

D: Actually we were supposed to go for surgery yesterday. But I consulted my friends in Surabaya. They suggested that I try to find out another option. One of them send me your name card. Mom does not want surgery if possible.

C: You were supposed to go for surgery and you deferred it. The doctor was angry with you?

D: No, he said it’s okay. I told him that we need to discuss with our family members first. .

1. The cancer has not spread yet

C: Okay, Ibu. If you come with a tumour in your brain, liver, pancreas or lung, I would not encourage to go for an operation. But your case is different. There is a tumour is your rectum.

According to the report, the cancer has not spread to other organs yet. So you are lucky. If the cancer has spread to the liver, then it could meaningless for go for the operation.

In your case, the cancer has not spread yet. So it is best that you have it removed.

2. No reason for you to suffer

C:  Ibu, you have made a mistake earlier for not going for an operation. The tumour is growing bigger and bigger. And now it is causing you so much pain and discomforts.

If you want to live a bit longer without sufferings, my advice is to have it removed. The tumour is growing in there. It will get bigger. You will have bleeding, pain and find it difficult to move your bowels. Why do you need to suffer like that? I hope you understand.

D: Yes.

3. You are still young

Think properly, Ibu. You are still young. There is no reason why you need to die of this cancer. If you are at my age, perhaps there is no need to think of going for an operation.

There was a 80 plus-year-old lady who had colon cancer. Her children came to seek our help. The doctor was angry because the family declined surgery. The reason being, at that age, she might just die on the operating table. I gave her the herbs. She had pain after taking the herbs. After two weeks she was okay. She survived a few years and died of old age. No, her cancer was okay.

So Ibu, if you are as old as that lady — 80 plus,, then I would NOT push you to go for an operation.

4. Herbs do not cure cancer

So please listen — don’t take the wrong path again! Taking herbs for 3 months and hoping the cancer would go away is absurd, not intelligent, not honest and not right. Outright stupidity.

If that herbalist said his capsules can cure your cancer, then we might as well close all the hospitals in this world. Everybody goes to him for a cure. It is not true, Ibu.

I have come across such case like yours before. A herbalist ask patients to take herbs and promised the cancer would be cured. Yes, he made money. The cancer does not go away. The patients go back to him again. This time, he will say, I have a better herbs for your problem. You pay more for this herbs. He makes more money the second round.

Now, do you want to go and see the herbalist who says he can cure you? You want to go to him? He would guarantee you a cure? You want?

R: No, don’t want.

C: Ibu, I have Jesus in my heart. I believe that God is with me in my work here at CA Care. I want to be honest to my patients. I will give my advice truthfully. I don’t want to bluff anybody. I also do not want to sugar-coat what I say. I know that sometimes what I say is something you don’t want to hear. Yes, truth hurts. Some patients come here wanting to hear only what they want to hear.

Even if you take my herbs, I cannot say that the tumour will disappear. My guess is, it will not disappear.

From my experience no one on earth can cure any cancer. Please know that. It is not that I don’t want to cure you. The truth is I cannot do that. This is my honest assessment of your situation. If my herbs can cure you, then we can tell all the hospitals to close shop!

5. No need to rush — think carefully

C:  You have been living with this cancer for the past two years. So there is no need to rush to make your decision. Take your time — one week or one month — think carefully what you want to do. Remember what I have told you. But as I have said earlier, I do not think what you did earlier was right — wrong path.

If I am here only wanting to sell you my herbs, then I would surely tell you to take our herbs NOW. Take our herbs and don’t go for the operation. But I know right down in my heart, that is not the right thing to do.

6. Follow your heart

C:  Mama, if you don’t want to follow my advice, I would not force you. It is up to  you. Yes, take my herbs and then some months or years down the road you may suffer. The cancer spreads to your liver. Of course you would not die yet — then you come to me again. What can I do?

Ibu, you are still young but if you want to “go home” faster or sooner, that’s okay. After all we learn that Up There Above is a better place than right down here! Right? So, can go home if you like.

7. Pray and ask Jesus for guidance

C: Have peace in your heart and consider what you want to do next. For now there is no need for you to take my herbs yet. It would not make any difference and it is just a waste of money. Go home and pray first. Talk to Jesus what you have to do. But Ibu don’t tell Jesus what to do like saying I don’t want to operate. I don’t think that is right. Ask Jesus to guide you — open a way for you.

I know many people came to see us because they said god sent them here — some said Buddha asked to come, some said Kuan Yin (Goddess of Mercy) asked to come.

Okay, do you want to ask any more question? Mama, you are still young, you look healthy. There is no reason why you need to die because of this cancer. Please go home and discuss with your family first. And most important talk to God.

Comments

On 8 May 2017, I received this email from her daughter:

dear Dr Chris,

terima kasih Dokter, mama sudah operasi oleh Dr X, dokternya baik dan Helpful. saat ini mama tinggal pemulihan pasca operasi. terima kasih banyak Dokter. Tuhan Yesus menyertai dan memberkati pelayanan Dokter. amin.

(Thank you Doctor, mama already had surgery by Dr. X. This doctor is kind and helpful. Currently mama is in postoperative recovery. Thank you very much Doctor. May our Lord Jesus be with you and bless Doctor’s ministry. Amen.)

I spent talking to RS and her daughter for almost one and a half hours. I accept no professional fee. The greatest satisfaction I have is to be able to help people in need. I am glad that RS’s daughter wrote back to say that her mom had been operated on and was recovering in the hospital. When she left our centre, I thought I would not hear from anymore — because that is what usually happen!

To those of you who are reading this article, please also know that if you have a tumour in your colon or rectum, know that I would ask you to have it removed first before taking our herbs. This is if the cancer has not spread yet. If it has already spread to other organs, than it is a different story.