Liver Surgery Failed To Cure Him

Chai is a 64 year-old-Malaysian. He was diagnosed with Hepatitis B since the past twenty over years. He had no symptoms. The doctor prescribed him Tenorfovir (viral load well suppressed).

A check up in June 2015 showed elevated liver function enzymes – AST = 111,                ALT = 169.

A CT scan showed:

  • The liver is normal in size but coarse echotexture and irregular border.
  • A hyperechoic lesion but no obvious intralesional. Vascularity note at left lobe of the liver measures 0.8 x 0.9 x 1 cm.

Impression: Features suggestive of liver parenchyma disease with hyperechoic lesion left lobe of liver likely menangioma.

A triphasic CT scan of liver done in July 2015 confirmed:

  • Irregular liver surface. Hypodense lesions are seen at both liver lobes, the largest is at segment 7 measures 1.2 cm. These lesions not enhanced in all CT phases.
  • Prostate enlarged measuring 4.7 x 5.1 x 4.1 cm.

Impression:

  1. Liver cirrhosis with no CT evidence of hepatoma.
  2. Multiple liver cysts.
  3. Cholelithlasis.
  4. Prostatomegaly.

Fast forward to April 2018 – a repeat Triphasic CT scan showed:

  • A solitary non-enchancing homogenous isodense liver nodule 3.3 x 3.6 cm. In view of underlying chronic hepatitis carrier, need to exclude atypical hepatocellular carcinoma.
  • Associated underlying liver cysts and haemangioma.

On 8 August 2019, Chai was admitted to a government hospital  and underwent surgery to removed about 70 percent of his liver. After being discharged from hospital, he was not offered further treatment (like chemotherapy) nor given any medication to take. He was sent home to recover and was told he can go back to his old lifestyle and can eat whatever he likes  – no pantang!

A follow up CT in July 2020 showed:

  • Increasing size and number of liver lesions in segment 2 and 3.
  • Lung nodules with pleural-based lesions suggestive of lung and pleural metastases.
  • Prostatomegaly with chronic bladder obstruction.

Chai was asked to undergo transarterial chemoembolization (TACE) for his recurrent liver cancer. He refused to undergo this treatment and came to seek our help instead.

Chai told us that:

1. The size of the tumour in his liver was about 15 x 18 cm before it was removed by surgery.

2. About 9 months later, the cancer recurred.  The tumour in his liver is now about 8 cm in size. The cancer had also spread to his lungs.

3. The liver operation done in  the government cost only RM250 (two hundred and fifty ringgit). If he were to go to a private hospital it would have cost him about RM60,000.

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Comments: If there is one lesson we can learn from this case is that if we are diagnosed with Hepatitis, we need to take care of our problem. Just because there  is no symptom , it does not mean we can live like there is no tomorrow. One day this hepatitis may develop into liver cirrhosis or/and liver cancer as in the case of Chai.

When Chai first came to see us, he looked alright (from the outside) and we highlighted the following points:

1. Surgery cannot cure liver cancer. Unlike in cases of breast or colon cancer, would not “push” or recommend patients to undergo surgery for liver cancer. We have seen many cases of failures. In the case of Chai the tumour recurred about nine months after surgery. He was back to square one. The doctor suggested TACE. But Chai’s cancer had already spread to his lungs. What can TACE do for his lungs?

His tumour in his liver is about 15 x 18 cm in size. That is huge and because of that 70 percent of the liver had to be removed. In such a situation, the chances of recurrence is very high – almost a certainty. If the tumour is small  – below 3 cm, maybe surgery is a good bet.

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2. Chai has to take care of his diet – no meat, no sugar and no oil / oily, fried food.  No one has ever told him to “pantang” or take care of diet. So after the surgery, he was back to his old life style and ate whatever he wanterd.

3. Chai has to face reality. There is no cure for cancer. So don’t be  misled or “fooled” by people who claim that their “therapy” can cure cancer. There is no magic – and CA Care has no magic potion either. So why take our herbs then? Our experience showed that herbs do help – perhaps to make life a little better or to even prolong life.

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4. Be grateful.  We would like to remind all patients – if you can eat, can sleep, have no pain and can move around – learn to be grateful for what you are. Nobody can do anything to make you better than that.

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5. Learn to take care of yourself. To win or to lose depends on you – the patient. Others around you can only help but they cannot cure you!  Learn to eat healthy. We have written two books on this subject – Food & Cancer and Healthy Cooking. It is up to you to read and learn to make yourself healthy.

Besides healthy food, learn to lead a stress-free and contented life.

6. Going for TACE? The doctor suggested Chai undergo TACE – that’s the only option there is. We have made it clear to Chai that he has to make his own decision with regards to TACE. We cannot tell him to go or not to go for the treatment. Chai understood the situation he is in and understood our message.

7. Herbs are bitter and the smell is awful (to most people). You need to boil them as tea – so it is a chore that you have to deal with.

8. Chai may have to suffer “healing crisis” initially before he can get well. In the first two herbs after taking the herbs, he may have diarrhoea, feel tired, etc. That is okay – continue taking the herbs. After a month – ask this question: Am I getting better? Our advice – if you feel better, then continue taking the herbs. But if after a month on the herbs, your condition does not improve or gets worse, then stop taking the herbs.

9. Finally, we ask Chai and his son: What do you want to do now?  Are you prepared to go through the “challenge” outline above? Without hesitation Chai replied: I want to take your herbs. Chai did not want to go for TACE.

A Tale of Two Patients: Alive and healthy — miraculous healing or fluke shot?

There is a town in Indonesia where it appears everybody seems to know everybody — that is, if you are a somebody in town. Many patients came to see us because “somebody” told them about us. For us too, we often learn about the wellbeing of our patients from “somebody” who came to visit us!

Here is a story of two patients who are from this dynamic town.

AS with Liver Cancer

AS was 65 years old when he was diagnosed liver cancer. His problem started in late December 2011 when he felt gastric-like pain in the abdomen. His doctor suspected gallbladder infection. He went to Jakarta and underwent a surgery to remove his gallbladder. During the operation, the surgeon also did a liver biopsy for suspicious liver tumour.

In February 2012, AS went to the National Cancer Centre in Singapore for follow-up treatment.  A PET / CT revealed a  3.2 x 2.6 cm in the left lobe of his liver. AS did nothing after this. But two months later,  AS did another CT scan. The tumour had grown in size.

On 3 May 2012, AS underwent a surgery to remove the tumour. The procedure cost him SGD28,000. Liver histology indicated a hepatocellular carcinoma (HCC or liver cancer) and it was 4 cm in size.

About three months after the surgery,  AS went back to Singapore for a review. A repeat CT showed NO evidence of recurrent HCC or focal liver lesion.

Unfortunately six months later (i.e. about 9 months after the surgery) another PET /CT revealed a new recurrent mass in the liver measuring 8.0 x 4.8 cm. Surgery failed and AS was asked to undergo chemotherapy.

On 22 March 2013, AS underwent TACE (transarterial chemo embolization). Unfortunately, the interventional radiologist was unable to access the tumour feeding vessel. TACE was aborted. In spite of the failure, AS had to pay S$5,000 for the procedure.

AS was discharged on 25 March 2013 and was referred to an oncologist for intravenous chemotherapy. AS was disappointed with the doctors and  decided to give up further medical treatment. He came to seek our help.

AS was prescribed Capsule A, B, C and D. In addition he had to take LL-tea, Liver 1 and Liver 2 teas. We sent him for a blood test. The results as of 15 April 2013, showed his alpha-fetoprotein = 1,064.0 and total bilirubin = 25.0. Other liver function enzymes were within normal range.

After the CA Care Therapy

Eight months after taking the herbs, a CT indicated the tumour had shrunk to 5.2 x 2.2 x 3.9 cm in size (from 8.0 x 4.8 cm).

About 2 years later, 18 January 2015, AS and his wife came to visit us. AS’s wife was very agitated and upset. Since the past few weeks AS had been taking “bad food” – food that we tell patients not to eat. On top of that AS sometimes was not taking the herbs properly.

Briefly my message to AS (and also all cancer patients) that night was very clear, crude and blunt.

  1. When patients are “half dead,” they would follow our advice without protest. But when they get well, most of them will “misbehave.” That is normal.
  2. To live or to die is your choice.
  3. There is no need to be upset about the patient’s choice. If he wants to die, let him die.
  4. My experiences have shown that if patients eat anything they like, this “good time” would probably last about 2 months. After that the cancer would recur and they would not be able “enjoy” food anymore.
  5. I also told AS, Perhaps it is time you stop taking the herbs. Go home and eat a lot of what you want to eat and “go” faster.
  6. AS had lived for almost 2 years. He should be grateful that he is still alive – healthy and without pain. What more do you want? Be grateful for what you are now!

I wish to state too that telling AS the above was not done with anger! But I suspect these words were too harsh for him. I did not get to see AS again!

Later I learned that AS is a somebody in his town! He owns rubber plantations and his son-in-law is a medical doctor!

Did his son-in-law stop him from taking our herbs? No, on the contrary, his son-in-law was the one who asked him to come and see us after the medical treatment in Singapore had failed.

It is now 2017 — it has been four years since we first met AS. What has happened to him? Many visitors from his town told us he is still healthy and doing fine!

Let’s hear what Jaya has got to tell us about AS in the video below.

 

Gist of our conversation

Chris: Let me ask you about your friend with liver cancer, who brought you here. I did not get to see him anymore. Is he still alive? And healthy?

Wife of Jaya: Yes, yes.

C: Have you seen him lately? When was the last time you saw him?

W: I met him and his wife in the market, a few days ago.

C: And he is really healthy?

W: Yes and he has a big tummy and his face looks pink and healthy.

C: Still alive!

W: Yes, very much alive! His son-in-law is a medical doctor. It is his son-in-law who asked him to come and see you.

C: Oh, the son-in-law did not object him taking our herbs?

W: No, no.

C: I am really happy to know that he is doing fine. That is the most important thing. Good for him. In your past conversation with him, did you ever hear him saying that the herbs are not effective and that is why he does not want to continue taking it anymore?

W: No, never. He said he is already old (72 years already). So there is no need to take anymore herbs. But he said he still takes care of his diet.

C: The last time he and his wife came here, I remember I scolded him for not wanting to take care of his diet. His wife was also mad at him. May be because of that that he did not want to see me anymore.

Jaya: Before we came here, his wife talked to me over the phone. She wanted me to send you her regards and let you know that AS is doing fine. Only that he does not want to continue with the herbs anymore.

C: That is okay. As long as he is fine, there is no need to take the herbs. Why waste time to come here and waste all the money. I am not unhappy about that. What is important is to know that he is doing okay.

Jaya with colon cancer

Another somebody in town is Jaya. Actually it was AS (above) who brought Jaya to see us in 2015.

Jaya was then 48 years old when he was diagnosed with colon cancer — T3N8X, stage 2. He underwent an operation in October 2014. This was done by a surgeon in a Jakarta hospital. A chemo-port was installed and Jaya had 2 cycles of chemotherapy with FLOFOX 6 regimen (oxaliplatin + Leucovarin + 5-FU).

The first chemo was on 16 November 2014 and the second on 30 November 2014, done in a hospital in Jakarta. Jaya was scheduled for 10 cycles of chemo,  every 2 weeks.

Unfortunately after the second chemo, Jaya developed serious infection. He was rushed to Singapore and was hospitalised for 17 days for Staphylococcus aureus infection (because of chemo-port infection).

While in the hospital he remained unconscious for 3 days. The doctor had asked the family members to “get ready.” Fortunately, Jaya recovered from this ordeal. The treatment in Singapore cost him SGD31,118.

Jaya and his wife flew together with AS and his wife flew to Penang to seek our help. Jaya did not want to continue with his chemotherapy anymore although his wife insisted that he follows the doctor’s advice.

Jaya was started on our herbs and was told to take care of his diet — no more chemo!

It has been two years now, Jaya is doing fine, like his friend AS.

 

Gist of my advice to Jaya

Chris: What is important now is to ensure that you maintain our wellbeing as it is now. Continue to do the right thing that you are doing now. It has been two years since you first came to see us and was started on the herbs. It seems (based on the blood test results) that everything is just fine.

But be careful and know that being good for two years is NOT a cure.

Jaya & Wife: (nodding their heads). Ya.

C: Don’t ever think that your cancer is already gone and cured. From my experience, I know that we cannot cure any cancer. It will come back! Look at one of our patients there (pointing to a picture). He was with us for more than twenty years. Doing fine. Then the cancer recurred (because he did something wrong). Now he is dead.

Comments

When AS with recurrent liver tumour first came to see us, we told him that he had a serious problem. I was not sure if I could help him in anyway. I can only do my best. Back in my mind, in a case such as this — 8 cm recurrent tumour in the liver — at best, survival would be six months! I did not expect him to survive! But as this story has it, it has been 4 years now and AS is still healthy.

AS had given up further medical treatment after surgery and attempted TACE had failed him. He took herbs and changed his diet. And he survived. That’s amazing!

Then you have Jaya. After surgery, he did the so called “right thing” medically. He had two shots of chemo which almost killed him. He had to be rushed to Singapore for help — to clear off his severe infection. Luckily he survived the ordeal when even the doctors thought that he would die.

I remember clearly when AS, Jaya and their wives came to see us that night. Jaya wanted to give up chemotherapy. Jaya’s wife wanted him to continue with the chemo. Later commonsense prevailed. Jaya decided to follow our therapy.

It has been two years now and Jaya is as healthy as anyone else — yes, without chemo!  He took herbs and watch out for his diet.

Often patients are being told, If you don’t operate you die! You don’t do chemo you die! You take herbs — that’s unscientific and unproven! Quackery. In the USA, they call people like me, snake oil salesman!

Which do to prefer? Snake oil or chemo that may kill you?

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