Lymphoma: Health improved after 4 weeks on herbs

Yen is a 23-year-old Indonesian. He had just completed his study in law. His problem started with a small swelling in his right collar bone. The lump grew bigger and developed more lumps. He did the following:

  1. He went to the hospital in Pekan Baru. The doctor diagnosed his problem as TB and Yen was on TB medication for about 6 to 7 months. The problem did not go away.
  2. Yen consulted a doctor in another hospital. He was told he had lymphoma and was asked to undergo chemotherapy.
  3. No satisfied Yen went to the general hospital in his home town. Again he was told he had lymphoma and was asked to undergo chemotherapy, which he refused to do.
  4. Yen went to Pekan Baru Medical Centre for further consultation. He was told the same thing — it’s a lymphoma and he need to undergo chemotherapy.
  5. Yen started to take herbal products which cost him IDR 15 million for three months. The herbs seemed to help.
  6. Yen started other “jamu” or herbal concoction for about 1 year. It cost him about IDR 1 million per month. His health got worse.
  7. At last Yen landed in Santa Maria Hospital. Again he was told he had Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma and has to undergo chemotherapy, which he flatly refused.

Yen came to seek our help in March 2019. He presented with the following:

  • severe fatigue
  • profuse sweating of both hands
  • he has fever everyday
  • he feels “heaty” in the chest
  • swelling in the right collar bone
  • breathlessness
  • itching throughout the whole body.

Yen took our herbs for about a month and then stopped. This was what happened:

Week 1: He did not feel good (tak enak). The lump in his right neck grew bigger and had pulling pain.

Week 2: The lump in his neck started to shrink and the pain was less. He started to feel good again.

Week 3: He had less fever. Before he had fever every day. His hands did not feel “cold” anymore. His head felt “hot” only once in a while.

Week 4: His breathlessness improved. Pains in the hands came on and off only.

Week 5: Swelling in the collar was smaller but new swellings developed in the left neck, right upper jaw and right arm pit. The lumps were painful.

Did the herbs helped him? The answer is yes.

Before the herbs: When he woke up from sleep, he had pains throughout the body. He felt tired easily. He sweated profusely .. his whole body was wet. His whole body itched.

After taking the herbs: The body itch was totally gone. The pain in the body had improved. He said the pain was okay now. He did not feel tired anymore. The sweating of the whole body is totally gone.

Watch this video:


About 9 months later (early December 2019), Yen came back to see again and reported the following:

  1. His health is back to normal.
  2. He can now play football with his friends. This is something he was not able to do before, due to lack of energy.
  3. The swelling in his collar bone is gone! He showed us these two pictures below:







Lymphoma Twenty Years Ago, Still Alive and Healthy! Is that quackery and “scientifically unproven”?

JO, a 69-year-old Malaysian lady came to seek our advice after being diagnosed with melanoma (skin cancer). She was accompanied by her husband and son. As usual, my first question to them was,Who asked you to come here?JO replied,My daughter! She is a medical doctor. She has been pushing me to come and see as soon as possible.

JO’s problem started with a small, flat mole on her back that started to grow bigger. A biopsy was done and the mole removed. It was malignant. Another surgery was done to remove a wider margin. Then, after surgery what follows?  Go for chemo or herbs?

I am curious. Why must a medical doctor think of sending her mother to a herbalist?

Here is the answer. About twenty years ago JO and many members of her family (including her daughter) came to our centre because JO’s sister — OGK — had lymphoma. She refused to undergo chemotherapy and opted for our therapy.

Listen to this video.

What can we learn from this story?

Lesson one.  Is OGK still alive? Yes — very much alive! She is now 85 years old and is still healthy. Not long along OGK visited Penang and even visited Penang Hill. Meaning, she could still travel and lead a normal life. Generally patients are told that if you don’t do chemo for your cancer, you die! You would not make it to 1 or 2 years, let alone 20 years!

I told JO. Many patients came to see us. After some time, we never get to see them. My assumption is that all of them have died. Those who get well after taking our herbs do not come back to say “hello” to us. Since I don’t get to see them again, I assume that they too have died! Thanks OJ for coming back to share this amazing story of your sister!

Lesson two. How does her medical doctor daughter come into the picture? JO said she also came to our center when her auntie was ill at that time. So she had “learned” from this experience that our herbs did a lot of good to her auntie. Meaning this was a “real, teaching lesson” for her. Unfortunately, they don’t teach such things in medical school.

Lesson three. Often we read or hear people say that those who refuse medical treatment for their cancer and opted for alternative therapy are people with low health literacy (and) are often unable to discern between scientifically proven or anecdotal based therapies.

What does this phrase mean? Probably that is a polite way of saying,You must be stupid and real dumb for not going for chemotherapy or radiotherapy! You don’t even know how to differentiate between a proven and scientific therapy from just-a-story-based therapy which is unproven.

Well, I leave it up to you what you want to make out of such a statement. But from my years of experience, I believe that those who come to us are the “empowered” patients. They have seen or heard what these so-called scientific and proven therapies like chemo or radiotherapy did to their family members or friends. Many suffered and many more died after having to pay a “bomb” for these treatments. No, they are not stupid or dumb.

Read this book, it has an interesting title:

Then you may wish to read what others say about this so called proven scientific method of treating cancer:

  1. Chemotherapy warning as hundreds die from cancer-fighting drug.

Patients should be warned about the dangers of chemotherapy after research showed that cancer drugs are killing up to 50 per cent of patients in some hospitals.

For the first time researchers looked at the numbers of cancer patients who died within 30 days of starting chemotherapy, which indicates that the medication is the cause of death, rather than the cancer.

Professor David Cameron, Edinburgh Cancer Centre, Western General Hospital, Edinburgh, Scotland, said:

  • I think it’s important to make patients aware that there are potentially life threatening downsides to chemotherapy. And doctors should be more careful about who they treat with chemotherapy.
  • The concern is that some of the patients dying within 30 days of being given chemo probably shouldn’t have been given the chemo.

Read more:

  1. When Treating Cancer Is Not an Option

When my husband learned he had advanced lung cancer, he didn’t even want to speak to an oncologist about chemotherapy. He saw no point in treatment that could not cure him and might make him feel worse.

Most patients with these so-called stage 4 cancers who choose to undergo chemotherapy seem to believe, incorrectly, that the drugs could render them cancer-free. That is the finding of a recent national study of nearly 1,200 patients with advanced cancers of the lung or colon. Overall, 69 percent of those with stage 4 lung cancer and 81 percent of those with stage 4 colon cancer failed to understand “that chemotherapy was not at all likely to cure their cancer,” Dr. Jane C. Weeks, an oncology researcher at the Dana-Farber Cancer Institute in Boston..

In an editorial accompanying the journal report, Dr. Thomas J. Smith and Dr. Dan L. Longo pointed out that “people have an optimistic bias.” Despite a grim prognosis, this bias prompts patients to believe treatment can cure them.

“Our job is not to force them into acceptance but to encourage them to plan for the worst while hoping for the best,” Dr. Smith said. “Such patients have better outcomes — less depression and less distress, and they’re more likely to die comfortably at home.”

Read more:

  1. Scientists: we will never find a cure for cancer

If all the positive cancer breakthrough headlines are to be believed, then the cure for cancer is right around the corner. But that is a far cry from reality, says Dr. Jørgen Olsen, head of research at The Danish Cancer Society.

“I think it’s an illusion to imagine that after millions of years of this disease we’ll suddenly find a solution. I don’t think that we’ll ever beat it, but I think that we’ll get it under control so that it becomes chronic but not deadly,” says Olsen.

Prominent cancer researcher, Mads Daugaard from the Molecular Pathology & Cell Imaging Laboratory at the University of British Colombia, Canada, agrees.

“We won’t find a cure, but we’ll probably reach a point where we have so many ways to attack cancer that people won’t die from it anymore,” says Daugaard.

But why can’t we find the secret weapon to beat cancer once and for all?

One reason is that cancer is not just one disease — even individual tumours can vary substantially from one patient to the next and the same type of tumour in different parts of the body can respond differently to medication.

Just like any other organism, cancer cells are trying to survive, and they are very good at it. They quickly spread to multiple parts of the body, and they mutate constantly, rendering existing medicines ineffective.

“Cancer cells are very adaptive, especially when the cancer is at an advanced stage,” says Olsen.

Read more:

So what is the reality? When OGK came to seek our help and JO twenty years later, are they dumb or enlightened?

Ask this question: To be able to live a healthy life with lymphoma for twenty years without chemotherapy is still considered “unproven” and the evidence has no scientific value?

This healing story is not considered “scientifically proven” because the patient did not undergo chemotherapy! Also it is not published in peer-reviewed medical journal! You get the point?





Same lymphoma, Same chemo, Same oncologist, Same time but Different outcome. Where is the science?

Nick (not real name) is a 37-year-old Indonesian. In late December 2017, he had coughs, became breathless and found a swelling under his left arm pit. In January 2018, he went to Singapore and did a PET scan followed by a biopsy. There was a large mass occupying the entire left lung. The left lung had collapsed, hence the breathlessness. The many surrounding lymph nodes were also swollen.

Histology confirmed Nick had a diffuse aggressive peripheral B-cell lymphoma with extensive supra- and infra-diaphramatic adenopathy involving mediastinal, hilar, left axillary/subpectoral and peri-celiac regions.

As expected, Nick underwent six cycles of chemotherapy with CHOP-R regimen. The total cost for this treatment came to about SGD80,000 (i.e. RM 240,000).

Chemotherapy was completed in May 2018. After a rest of about one and a half months, Nick did a follow-up PET scan on 2 July 2018. The results were as follows:

  • The previous mass, about 18 cm in the lung had shrunk significantly! Nick felt better after the chemo.
  • There is a residual non FDG avid soft tissue mass at the left hilum, measuring 3.0 x 2.8 cm.
  • A new focus of intense FDG uptake at the left aspect of the manubrium, suspicious of disease involvement.
  • A few foci of mild increased FDG uptake in the left upper pulmonary lobe associated with peripheral ground glass changes — probably due to inflammatory changes.
  • Diffuse mild increased FDG uptake in the bone marrow may be reactive in nature.

In view of the above, Nick was told to do another biopsy to determine what is in his breastbone. But before doing the biopsy, Nick decided to come and seek our help. He wanted to take herbs.

Nick shared the story of his friend who also had the “same” lymphoma at the same time as him. While Nick’s lymphoma mass was on the left lung, the friend’s lymphoma mass was in the middle of the chest.

Nick’s friend went to the same hospital, was treated by the same oncologist and received the same six-cycle of chemo — CHOP-R. Unfortunately, the treatment did not work for Nick’s friend. In this case, Nick was a bit more lucky.

Nick’s friend was asked to go for more chemo, using a new regimen called R-ICE. After one treatment his white blood cell count went down to almost zero.

(Note: The previous treatment regimen was Rituximab (R) and CHOP. CHOP stands for cyclophosphamide, doxorubicin, vincristine, and prednisone. The suggested new regimen is Rituximab and ICE. ICE stands for Ifos­famide + Carbo­platin + Etopo­side).

Listen to our conversation that morning.




What can you learn from this story? Yes, you can go to the same doctor, receive the same chemo-drugs for the same type of cancer but you cannot guarantee that you get the same result. This story shows that healing of cancer takes more than just “text book science” that you learned in school. Over the years helping cancer patients, there is one thing that I learned — the outcome of each treatment is very much dependent on the “nature” of the patient himself/herself.

Dr. Glenn Sabin is a medical doctor. He was diagnosed with cancer but cured himself through the non-chemo way. He wrote a book, N of 1.  He said, You may be wondering why I titled my book ‘n of 1’. In scientific circles, an N-of-1 trial is a clinical trial in which a single patient represents the entire investigation: a single case study. 

Shortly after I was diagnosed with terminal cancer in 1991, my N-of-1 experiment began. No two cancers are exactly alike; neither are two patients. Our individual needs—physical, psychological and emotional—and cancer treatment regimens can vary widely; just like our responses to treatment and our unique journeys into survivorship.”

Dr. Sabin’s experience is an inspiring story about challenging medical dogma. He discussed how to activate the body’s innate capacity to heal. To heal, patients, their caregivers and their loved ones need to seek knowledge and self-empowerment.

In my book, Getting it right, I wrote a chapter with this title, Is Modern Medicine the Only Proven and Scientific Therapy?.

This is what I wrote: Medical treatments are said to be scientific and proven but what is the use, if patients still die after undergoing all these high-tech, state-of-the art treatments? Are the deaths and recurrences of cancer in patients not proof enough that scientific medicine has failed in one way or another? 

Taking of herbs or other CAM therapies brought benefits to patients. These therapies have not gone through “scientific baptism” to make them scientific. But this does not mean that the therapies are ineffective or unscientific. The results speak for themselves. The requirement that truth can only be found through current “gold standard method” of medicine is in itself unscientific. 

In the third chapter of the book, I went on to ask, Is Traditional and Complementary/ Alternative Medicine (CAM) a Quackery? 

Traditional and Complementary / Alternative Therapies (CAM) are often regarded as unproven by those in the medical profession. This negative perception is disappearing as the general public had overwhelmingly confirmed that CAM therapies are indeed beneficial for them. 

The next time you go to your oncologist to start your chemo, know that he/she is conducting an N=1 experiment on you. He/she may quote impressive success statistics but know that those statistics need not necessarily apply to you. If your oncologist says you have a 80 percent chance of cure, ask if he/she is sure that you belong to that 80 percent success group. Or what is the chance that you belong to the 20 percent failed group? If you ask such questions expect some unexpected response from your doctor! He/she may chase you out of the office! Or you will get a shelling. One doctor told a patient: How do I know, I am not god! Another doctor answered: It is your fate, your luck. 

So is going to the oncologist is just like going to a casino? Read this book, The Big Casino: America’s best cancer doctors share their most powerful stories.

To me, you need more than just “science” to cure your cancer — yes, you may need more luck or more karma. But one thing I know for sure … you need God’s mercy and blessing. Unfortunately, many people are still not responding to this change of reality.

Back to the case of Nick. He had six rounds of chemo and spent about RM240,000 for the treatment. Did the chemo helped him? Yes, definitely. His collapsed left lung was “restored” and he can now breathe normally. But did the chemo cure him? No, not yet. I am not sure if Nick can ever be cured. He was asked to do another biopsy to know what is left behind. Then what comes after the biopsy? What can the doctor offer other than more of the same thing … more chemo like his friend. What say you to more chemo?

Nick knew the pitfall. He decided to come and seek our help. But I was frank with him that morning. I said, I may be able to help but I cannot cure you.

Over the more than two decades of helping patients, I have come across many lymphoma cases and I know that our CA Care Therapy did help some of them.

My first encounter was with Dewi (not real name). She is a lawyer who had a recurrence a year after completion of her medical treatment. She did not want any more chemo and was started on our herbs and diet. Up to this day, Dewi is still doing fine. You can read more here:

Then there is another interesting case of a 65-year-old man who was diagnosed with B-cell type gastric non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma. After just one shot of chemo with modified CHOP –  cyclophosphamide + vincristine + Epirubicin and Prednisolone, he suffered a stroke (left thalamus infarction). The doctor gave up chemo and suggested radiotherapy instead. His daughter came to seek our help instead. Read here:

In March 2014, Mat had a lump on his chest. A biopsy confirmed it was a lymphoma.  Had underwent 25 cycles of radiotherapy, but he refused chemotherapy. The lump went away but in 2016, fluid accumulated in his lung and Mat had  it tapped out. Later the cancer spread to his neck. In February 2018, Mat wrote us to ask for help but I was reluctant to take up this case. I asked Mat to go and see the doctor instead. But he was adamant he did not any chemo. I had no choice but to help him. Yes, our therapy helped him too! For more read:

As I am finishing this story, a 40-plus-year-old man came to seek our help. He was initially diagnosed with TB, but later the diagnosis was changed to lymphoma. He underwent six cycles of chemo.  The treatment failed. He was asked to go for another 12 cycles of chemo. After three cycles of this additional treatment he decided to give up and came to seek our help. After two weeks on the herbs, it looks like he is getting better. I cannot say what lies ahead for this unfortunate man.



Lymphoma: Swelling and lumps gone after CA Care Therapy. No chemo!



Mas (not real name) is about 80 years old, an Indonesian lady from Aceh. Her neck was swollen and there were six lumps around her neck. The doctor in Jogjakarta did a biopsy and said it was a lymphoma. She was asked to undergo chemotherapy. The family refused the treatment. Not satisfied, her family brought her to Penang for further consultation. Same result, same advice. It is a lymphoma and she must go for chemo!

One of her sons, surfed the internet and found CA Care. Mas, together with her son and daughter came to seek our help.



Due to her advanced age and refusal to undergo chemotherapy, Mas had no other option. She wanted to try our herbs. I told her she had to take care of her diet as well. And after that, just pray and let’s see what happen!

After taking the herbs for about two month, one of her sons who had been taking care of her, came to our centre again. He reported that Mas was doing well. The lumps around her neck were gone, except one. Even this one had grown smaller. The swelling of her neck had subsided. Her skin itched but after the herbs, that problem too, disappeared.

One day, she drank tea with sugar. She had problems. This was resolved after reverting to the right diet.


  1. Would you subject Mas to chemotherapy if she was your mother?
  2. What is the purpose of chemo? To prolong her life or to terminate it in this case? To improve her quality of life or to make her more miserable?
  3. What now after the swelling, lumps and itch were gone? Stop the herbs and go back to the “bad” diet and old lifestyle again?





Lymphoma Part 3: Digging my own grave with my folk and spoon!

Lymphoma Part 1: Eighty-percent-cure-rate-chemo Failed. No to Bone Marrow Transplant. I don’t want to die before my parents. 

Lymphoma Part 2: Healing in Progress After Two months on CA Care Therapy. Full of fear. But you would not die in December! 

Lymphoma Part 3:  Digging my own grave with my fork and spoon!


Forty-two-year-old Daisy had 6 cycles of chemo for her peripheral T-cell lymphoma. The treatment failed to cure her. The cancer relapsed 6 months after completion of her chemotherapy. She was asked to undergo more chemo and bone marrow transplantation. She refused and opted for CA Care Therapy instead. One year on, Daisy said she was not so worried about her cancer but her diet caused her much distress. I want to eat! 

Listen to this video.


Chris: The only thing that you cannot do is eat any “rubbish” that you like. Is that okay?

Daisy: Hm, hm. I have been tolerating this. I cannot help it. But sometimes I had the urged of wanting to eat …

C: Do you think one day, you would just say: Never mind la — eat and die, that’s okay.

D: Especially when I watched the cooking program on Astro … I felt like I wanted to eat and die, it’s okay.

C: You are already one year and you are not getting worse?

D: But I have been tolerating the food. During Christmas and Chinese New Year (CNY) everyone was eating …turkey, etc. and I could not eat. You know, I cried. They can eat but I cannot eat. I stayed home and cried.

C: So your main concern now is not cancer anymore? Now, food is more important? You worry about your food.

D: When people are alive, they want to eat (anything).

C: The last time when you came, you were so worried that you would die because of your cancer. Now do you still think that you are going to die?

D: No! I know I can live. Last time I was so worried that probably when I go to sleep I would not wake up the next morning.

C:  Ha, ha, is it not better (to die that way)? So today you go to sleep, you know that you would wake up?

D: I know, I know ( I can wake up).

Chinese New Year is coming – be careful with your diet!

C: Chinese New Year is coming. Don’t go and start eating “rubbish” ah.

D: Already two years I cannot eat. Since 2012 until now (2015) cannot eat, you know!

C: But you were supposed to die within four months! Now you’re well — you are healthy, you are okay. What do you want some more?

D: I want to eat. Eat first before I die.

C: Okay, if you want to eat, go and eat a lot. Eat a lot. To eat a piece of chicken and die … not worth it. It’s stupid. Eat a lot and then die. That’s okay.

D: I want to dig my own grave with my fork and spoon.

Gentle Warning: Itchy rashes that took months to go away

D: For two years, I never eat ….

C: What did you eat (during the Chinese New Year, 2015)?

D: I ate 2 kampung chicken eggs .. twice .. some CNY cookies … chocolates .. not much,  plus fish. After that …


C: When you came home after eating all these …  any problem? Itchy?

D: No.

C: Before you ate all these, did you have such problem?

D:  No such problem. About one month after taking these CNY food this problem happened. I felt itchy and I started to scratch.

C:  And until today?

D: Yes, it’s already one and half months. It takes a long time to heal. Before I had cancer it was easy to heal.

C: Food is important. If they say you eat anything you like — that’s not true.


All patients who come to seek our help are always told: Apart from taking the herbs, you have to take care of your diet. You cannot eat anything you like. We would also want to remind everyone, if you can’t take care of your diet, there is not point coming to see us. We would not be able to help you. This is because food  ….

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The unhappiness expressed by Daisy in this case, is understandable. Most patients would not want to change. The moment they get well — when they don’t feel that they are going to die anymore  — they will come with all the excuses for wanting to forget what we tell them about food.

One classical example that came to mind now is the case of an Indonesia lady who had lymphoma. She underwent chemotherapy and almost died from the treatment. After the treatment the cancer recurred. There was a hard swelling on her cheek. She was asked to undergo more chemotherapy. She was not prepared to accept that anymore.  She told us that she prayed that God would grant her the strength to come and see Chris Teo in Penang. Then if she died after that she would be satisfied. We took care of this lady for three years and she was well. The swelling in her cheek was gone. Then, the “monster within” started to awaken. She told us that she had been taking the herbs for so long. It caused much strain on her children, etc., etc. We knew what her real problem was! We also knew that if the heart would not want to change there is nothing we can do to help.

Later, we were told she went to Singapore for a holiday. Ate  …. (we did not know what). After she came home to Jakarta, her stomach became bloated. That was when she wrote us for help. Our answer was: Go to the doctor and ask for help. She had chemotherapy. After the second shot of chemo, she died.

This is another lymphoma case. This story is beyond our comprehension. TL was a 59-year-old man. He was diagnosed with lymphoma in September 2012. Like the Indonesian lady above, he had surgery to remove part of his stomach. He was subsequently asked to undergo chemotherapy which he declined.

He came to seek our help in October 2012. From the very beginning we explained to TL that it would be futile to take our herbs without taking care of his diet. In short, he must eat rightly and under no circumstances take junk food.

On many visits, TL asked us about what food to eat and what food not to eat,  giving us the impression that he was eating right!

About 8 months later, TL suffered a relapse.  It shocked us to learn that all along TL had been pretending and  “cheating” on himself as far as his diet was concerned.  Listen to his “confession” that day (4 November 2013).

A few days after this “confession”, TL checked into the hospital, underwent medical procedures and died while in the hospital.
Why did he play such a game and cheated himself?  We cannot understand.

One outstanding lymphoma case is that of Devi. She had radiotherapy and was well. But about a year later, her cancer recurred. She was asked to go for chemotherapy.  She had chemo but at the same time started to take herbs and change her diet and lifestyle. From 1998 to this day (2015) Devi stayed on course and is extremely well.

Chris: Why were you on morphine?

Devi: Because I was in pain. The moment I consumed food, I had very severe pain. I was lying in the hospital for two weeks until one day I went berserk because I had an overdose of morphine…I was not getting any better. I discharged myself (from the hospital)….I went to a clinic that practised chelation therapy and the doctor asked me what sort of diet I was on? I was told to stop taking solid food and to go on fruits, vegetables, semi-solids and fluids. Within two days on the recommended diet, the pain was gone. 

C: Did you take any other medication? 

D: No. I was only on the diet, no medication whatsoever. I was on fruits, vegetables and semi-solids. Within a month, my digestive system was back to normal. 

C: After the radiation, you thought you were cured. Did you go back to your old diet? 

Yes, I went back to my old lifestyle. I forgot about the fruit juices. I had a relapse of the cancer, this time in the abdominal region.

The doctor said radiation was out. I went for six cycles of chemotherapy. 

Devi came to seek our help and was well. 

C: What about your diet?

D: I am more of a vegetarian now, I keep off red meat and sea food except for fish. I eat fruits and vegetables. 

C: Some people say that if I cannot take my favourite food, life if not worth living. What is your comment to that ? 

D: What I have to say to those people is, life is worth more than just your favourite food. It is a very small sacrifice to make. Life is much more that just food. 

C: You were a meat eater before and now you are a vegetarian. Many people say that if you don’t eat meat, you have no strength. What have you got to say about that? 

D: No, not really. In fact, I feel much healthier now that I cut meat out of my diet. I have not lost energy at all. 

Patients, you have a choice — to live or to die. If you wish to live, CHANGE — your lifestyle and your diet.

The choice is yours!

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Lymphoma Part 2: Healing in Progress After Two months on CA Care Therapy. Full of fear. But you would not die in December!

Lymphoma Part 1: Eighty-percent-cure-rate-chemo Failed. No to Bone Marrow Transplant. I don’t want to die before my parents. 

Lymphoma Part 2: Healing in Progress After Two months on CA Care Therapy. Full of fear. But you would not die in December! 

Lymphoma Part 3:  Digging my own grave with my fork and spoon!


Daisy, 42 years old, was diagnosed with peripheral T-cell lymphoma, Stage 2. She underwent 6 cycles of chemotherapy. Six months after the completion of her treatment, the lymphoma relapsed and Daisy was asked to undergo more treatment — 4 cycles of high dose chemotherapy followed by an autologous transplant (BMT — bone marrow transplant).

Daisy felt that she would not survive the BMT procedure. But without BMT Daisy was given the impression that she would also die — within four months. By December she would be gone! Daisy was in a dilemma and came to seek our help. She was started on herbs and was told to take care of her diet.

In  October 2013 — after two months of the herbs  — Daisy shared her anxiety, fear, frustrations and wishful hope! Watch this video.



Lymph nodes grew bigger after 2 months on herbs. Oncologist did not show any concern — Go and continue taking your herbs! 

Two months on our CA Care Therapy, Daisy came back to us. She was full of anxiety and fear. She just went to see her oncologist and was told that the swollen lymph nodes had grown bigger.  Since she did not proceed with the BMT, her oncologist was not interested to talk further with her and instead cynically asked her to go ahead and take the herbs. 

Daisy did a blood test and an ultrasound.

White Cell count 1.71  Low
Lymphocyte 0.44  L
Red blood count 3.55  L
Platelets 160
LDH 254  High

USG on 30 September 2013 indicated:

  • Bilateral enlarged cervical nodes … the largest at the left submandibula measuring 1.7 x 0.7 cm and at the left posterior triangle, 1.4 x 0.5 cm.
  • Enlarged axillary nodes seen bilaterally. The largest node is seen at the left axilla measuring 1.9 x 2.3 cm and 1.8 x 2.2 cm.
  • A hypoechoiec nodule seen within the subcutaneous plane at the left posterior scapular region measuring 1.5 x 0.6 cm.

For the above consultation, the total bill came to RM 774.00 made up of the following:

  1. Lab test RM 202.00
  2. Ultrasound examination RM 480.00
  3. X-ray RM 42.00
  4. Consultation (oncologist) RM  50.00

Like most patients who come and see us, they like to go for a scan after taking our herbs for a month or two! That is unrealistic! Our herbs are not magic bullets. Healing takes time.

The results showed the lumps had gone bigger! We told Daisy, You are just asking for unnecessary problem!

Daisy: What if the lumps grow bigger and bigger? 

Chris: Yes, that is always the concern of patients … and of course ours too. But what can we do? Is there another alternative? 

No! Daisy said she would not go for any chemo, radiotherapy or surgery. She would like to stick on with our herbs.

We told Daisy — we wish we could cure her or promise her a cure but we know we would be dishonest if we do that.

Promising false assurance is cruel and sinful!  We would not be able to ensure any positive outcome even though we have helped so many lymphoma patients before.

The only advice we could give is: Don’t panic, relax. This implies patients need to believe and trust.

Good thing is, Daisy seemed to trust us. She knew what it was like to undergo chemotherapy. The fact that she survived the 6 cycles of chemo earlier was already fortunate. Then, she was told that her CHOP chemotherapy would give her a 80 percent chance of cure. But this is not true! Barely 6 months after the completion of her chemo, the lymphoma recurred.  Where is that 80 percent chance?

After the relapse, the oncologist offered BMT and said the cure rate would be 50 to 60 percent but the procedure would be more drastic, invasive and expensive — RM 100,000.

Daisy had lost confidence with medical treatment. Probably this was the driving force that made her come to seek our help. She said she would rather “gamble” her life with our herbs.

Are you getting worse after taking the herbs? You wouldn’t die in December! 

Even though the lumps had grown in sizes, Daisy did not feel any worse. Actually she was doing fine … except for the knowledge that the lumps were getting bigger! Daisy was given the impression that without BMT she would only have 4 months to live. So by December she would be gone! No, during our discussion in October 2013, Daisy did not show any sign that she was about to die. We told Daisy: You are not going to die in December! 

(Daisy continued to get well and is still alive after 2 years. Most of the lumps that made her worry so much earlier on had almost disappeared!) Question: What if she were to undergo the Bone Marrow Transplant?




Lymphoma Part 1: Eighty-percent-cure-rate-chemo Failed. No to Bone Marrow Transplant. I don’t want to die before my parents

Lymphoma Part 1: Eighty-percent-cure-rate-chemo Failed. No to Bone Marrow Transplant. I don’t want to die before my parents. 

Lymphoma Part 2: Healing in Progress After Two months on CA Care Therapy. Full of fear. But you would not die in December! 

Lymphoma Part 3:  Digging my own grave with my fork and spoon!


Daisy (not real name) was 42 years when her problem started around July/August 2012. She found lumps in her arm pit and groin. The lumps grew bigger. She went to a private hospital. A biopsy was done.  She was told she had peripheral T cell lymphoma, Stage 2.

Daisy underwent 6 cycles of chemotherapy  — CHOP regimen. The treatment cost RM 40,000 — paid for by her insurance company. She suffered severe side effects: nausea, vomiting, mouth ulcers, numbness, loss of appetite, chest pain, constipation and hair loss.

Daisy said she almost died after 3 chemos, but she  managed to complete the scheduled 6 cycles by January 2013.

Chris: Before chemotherapy, did you ask the oncologist if the treatment was going to cure you?

Daisy: The oncologist said, “There is a 80 percent cure rate.” It was just a Stage 2 cancer.

C: You believe that?

D: Yes and I was happy!

Everything went well for Daisy during the initial stage after the completion of the treatment. She went back to work.  Unfortunately, soon afterwards she found a lump in her left arm just above her elbow and also swelling of her axillary lymph nodes,  but she did not tell her doctor. She thought there was nothing to worry about since she had just completed the treatment. However, during the second follow up she told her oncologist about the lump. In July 2013, Daisy had surgery to remove the lump in the arm. Histology confirmed recurrence of the T cell lymphoma.

A whole body CT scan was done on 30 July 2013 and indicated the following:

  • There are bilateral multiple mildly enlarged cervical nodes which are increased in size when compared with the previous scan. The largest node measures 14 mm.
  • Bilateral mild to moderately enlarged axillary nodes have increased both in number and size since the previous scan. The largest node the left axilla measures 13 x 8 mm.

The oncologist told Daisy that she had no other option but to go for  BMT – bone marrow transplant. She would need to undergo 4 cycles of high dose chemotherapy followed by an autologous transplant.

 C: Can BMT cure you? 

D: The oncologist said the cure rate is 50 to 60 percent. 

C: You believe that? Previously he said chemo would give you an 80 percent chance and you had a recurrence.                                                                          

The BMT procedure would cost RM 100,000 and this would be paid for by the insurance company.

C: So, that’s free treatment, why don’t you want to go for it. 

D: I am afraid I would just die. My father and mother are still alive. That’s why, I don’t want to die before them. 

C: I understand, if your father has to bury you … no, I don’t like the idea either. 

C: How many sisters and brothers do you have? 

D: Six. 

C: What did they say? 

D: All of them do not know what to do. 

C: Good to have sisters and brothers like that. At least they don’t fight among themselves for trying to be too smart.

Now, go home and decide what you want to do. After you have made your decision, there will be a lot of people who will say this or that! 

Don’t worry. Learn how to take care of yourself. Go home. Pray that God will tell you what is the right thing for you to do. Don’t eat anything you like. Above all, be friends with your cancer. No need to fight with the cancer. 

For more, watch this video. 




Better to let the doctors take care of her. We can’t cure her!

HL came to see us on behalf of her 70-yer-old mother who was diagnosed with T-cell lymphoma. Her mother had been in the hospital for the past 2 weeks. She needed blood transfusion every 2 days because her platelets count was down to 1.0 (normal range 150-400). Her red blood count had stabilized at 8.0. For the past 1 week HL’s mother was given steroid injection.

What to do now?

  1. The doctor suggested chemotherapy and this would be a 50:50 chance. The idea is to “control” the cancer.
  2. If the patient does not want chemo, it is okay. But according to the doctor it would be a “hopeless” case. She could stay in the hospital to receive supporting treatment, such as blood transfusion, etc. when needed.

Desperate and not knowing what to do, HL came to seek our opinion. Listen to our conversation that day.




Gist of what we talked about. We hope that all who come and seek our help learn this too.

Part 1

  1. What can we do with her platelets so low. Let her stay in the hospital and let the doctors take care of her. They have all the facilities to assist her.
  2. The doctors did not pressure the family to do chemotherapy — they are open. To do chemo, they claimed it would be a 50:50 chance (of what?) but not to do chemo it would be a case without any “hope”.
  3. The daughter asked the doctor: Her condition is deteriorating, can she stand the chemo? The doctor said it would a modified low dosage.
  4. The question to ponder: Even when you give full dosage, you cannot cure the cancer, what do you expect to get with a low dosage?
  5. The doctor said chemo is just to suppress or control the cancer. To put the cancer cells to sleep.
  6. Daughter was very concerned about the side effects of chemo but someone told her that chemo had to be done to cure the cancer first. Only after the cure, then she can try natural therapy.
  7. Question to ponder: What happen if the chemo kills the patient right away?
  8. With your mother’s condition — platelet = 1, did you ever ask the doctor if your mother is going to be able to survive the chemo treatment? Can it kill her right away or not? Reply: Yes, that’s our worry too.
  9. I would be very happy if the chemo does not kill your mother. But know that nobody can cure any cancer. When you come and see us, don’t ever believe that we are going to be able to cure your mother’s cancer.
  10. 10.Since your mother is now in the hospital, let her stay there and you should follow the doctors’ instructions. Don’t take our herbs. Because if anything goes wrong, after she takes the herbs, you are going to blame us.
  11. Many people are like that. They sent us e-mails asking if our herbs caused these problems or that problems. And their cases were already medically given up. For this type of people I say — Please don’t come and see us.
  12. When you take our herbs, you may feel unwell first (healing crisis) before you start feeling better.

Part 2

  1. Know that everyone has to die. Today, I am not sick but I may also die tomorrow. That is the reality. It is a fact.
  2. With your mother’s condition like that, platelet = 1, what is the chemo going to do for her? Daughter: That is why the oncologist said there is only a 50:50 chance.
  3. You have to decide, she is your mother. Daughter: There is no other solution.
  4. Do chemo, your mother may die, don’t do chemo she may also die.
  5. Let me remind you. If you don’t do the chemo and if your mother dies, people will blame you and you are going to regret. If you do chemo and she died you will also regret. In life you cannot win all the time. And I know, in cancer, most people are going to lose.
  6. So go back, take time and discuss with your two brothers and sister. Decide what you want to do.
  7. You come here wanting herbs, believing that these are going to cure your mother — forget about that. Our herbs are not magic. We cannot cure her cancer. That is why I ask you to go home and think about what you want to do.
  8. Daughter: With my mother’s condition like this, we cannot wait! Aya, always want to win! There is still time.
  9. Daughter: You mean the herbs cannot cure her? Cure cannot — how can? I don’t see how our herbs can help her. You expect the platelets to go up by tomorrow after taking the herbs? No way.
  10. Daughter: Can she just take the herbs for a while? Well, what do you say if she dies?
  11. Daughter: Are there any herbs to strengthen her body now? There is no magic bullet.
  12. Daughter: While doing the chemo, no need for her to take herbs? NO. Because if anything happens, the doctor is going to blame the herbs.
  13. Daughter: Can she take your herbs after her chemo? We will wait and see what happen first after the chemo.

Go home and Pray

  1. You pray to who? Reply: Buddha.
  2. Okay, go home and pray to Buddha. Ask Buddha for an answer — now that my mother is in this condition, Buddha can you help me and tell me what shall I do now? If Buddha says do not go for chemo then you can come back and see me again. But if Buddha says she goes for chemo, then go ahead and do the chemo. This is the only sensible advice I can give you.
  3. There is this lady from Indonesia. She was scheduled to do chemotherapy on Monday. But on Friday she came to see us. She was not happy with chemotherapy. I told her to go back and pray to Jesus (since she is a Christian). Ask Jesus to tell her what she should do — go for chemo or not. We did not give her any herbs yet. On Monday, she came back and said God has given her the answer. She would not go for chemo. Only then we gave her the herbs.
  4. I am telling you to do the same thing. Go home and pray to Buddha and ask for guidance. By doing this, you cannot blame anybody anymore. And you will be at peace with yourself.
  5. We respect all religions. Many people came here and told us that Buddha asked them to come and see us. Some said Kuan Yin asked them to come. And some Christians said God showed them the way to see us.
  6. Let me say again, we cannot answer all the questions you asked. Nobody can answer all the questions either. The One who can answer you is Buddha. So go home and take time to pray to Buddha. Ask one simple question — What do I do now. I am lost. I have been praying to You for so long. Please let me have Your guidance.
  7. Follow your heart, not your brain.
  8. Now, there are millions of people out there. Ask them and you get a million answers.
  9. For now, don’t take our herbs yet. Like your mother I am just as desperate. I am also in the hole. I give you the herbs … that does not seem right. My conscience is not clear. And I also cannot sleep.


Many patients and their family members are often made to believe that chemotherapy — even if it cannot cure cancer — can prolong life and can control the cancer from spreading. They are also told that chemotherapy can also promote patients’ quality of life. Do you believe all these?

Ask those who have undergone chemotherapy and see what they have to say! Some told us they went through “hell” while undergoing chemotherapy but so far no one has yet tell us that undergoing chemo is a “heavenly” experience. Yes, some patients did say they did not suffer much during their chemo. Some said they could tolerate the chemo. But some others said after one, two or six shots of chemo, their loved ones just died. So, in chemo it is always, to each your own.

To say that chemo would prolong your life or improve your quality of life — as in the case above — may be stretching the imagination a bit too far. Research has shown that these claims are not necessarily true. On the contrary even the American Society of Clinical Oncology acknowledged that in some or most cases, chemotherapy was wasteful and unnecessary, in cases where cancer was too far advanced.




Perhaps you may wish to ponder seriously the advice of Drs. Blanke & Fromme below.


What about the claim that chemotherapy can stop the cancer from spreading or make the cancer cells go to sleep? It is indeed most shocking to know what some cancer researchers tell us.

Read this:  Chemo spreads and makes cancer more aggressive.



Our final word 

When patients come and see us. Please show us your commitment and show us that you really believe in what we are doing. Of course, you can come here for “shopping” — just to know what to do, but we want you to go home after that to make your own decision. Please do not ask us to decide if you should go for chemo or not. Also do not come saying my doctor said this or my doctor said that. We know in cancer there is no right or wrong answer. So it is no use commenting of what others say you should do or not do. Know that YOU, and you alone must decide what you want to do with your cancer. We can only provide up to date, honest information, but whatever you want to do after that must be your own decision and your responsibility.

You may also wish to read our earlier postings:

When chemotherapy does more harm than good  

Follow your heart not your head when it comes to deciding whether you should go for chemo /radiation or not

Breast Cancer: Surgery, Chemo, Radiation and Hormonal Therapy Did Not Cure Her. Xeloda made her miserable! Patient, Only You Should Decide What You Want To Do!





Review by Yeong Sek Yee & Khadijah Shaari

Jacqueline Kennedy

Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis, just like the late Senator Hubert Humphrey, also died a painful death in May 1994. Jacqueline Kennedy was the wife of the late President John Kennedy, the 35th President of the USA from January 1961 until he was assassinated in November 1963. Jacqueline subsequently married Greek shipping tycoon Aristotle Onassis in 1968 and was later known as Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis.

Mrs. Onassis was healthy until early December1993, when she noticed a swelling in her right groin. A doctor diagnosed a swollen lymph node, and suspecting an infection, prescribed antibiotics. The swelling diminished but did not completely disappear.  While on a boat cruise in the Caribbean over the Christmas holidays in 1993, Mrs. Onassis developed a cough and swollen lymph nodes in her neck and pain in her abdomen.

Subsequently another doctor found enlarged lymph nodes in her neck and in her armpit. A  CAT scan, showed that there were swollen lymph nodes in her chest and in an area deep in the abdomen, the retroperitoneal area.A biopsy of one of the neck nodes showed that Mrs. Onassis had non-Hodgkin’s  lymphoma (NHL).

In early January1994, Mrs. Onassis began receiving the first of four standard courses of chemotherapy for the lymphoma. The therapy included steroid drugs, and the initial treatment led to an apparent remission. But in mid-March 1994, she developed weakness, became confused and  had  pains in her legs. A neurological examination indicated that the cerebellum portion of her brain had been affected. Later, an M.R.I. showed that the lymphoma had disappeared from her neck, chest and abdomen but that it had spread to the membranes that cover the brain and spinal cord.

After the cancer was found  in her brain, Mrs. Onassis received radiation therapy there and to her lower spinal cord for about a month. The treatment relieved her weakness, but she continued to experience pain in her neck, for which she was given pain medications. During this time she received her care at home and as a hospital out-patient.

On April 14, Mrs. Onassis was admitted to New York Hospital-Cornell Medical Center after she developed a perforated ulcer in her stomach, a complication of the steroid therapy. Surgeons sewed up the hole in the stomach that day.

However the cancer in her spinal cord and brain continued to worsen. Although a tube was placed in her brain to deliver an anti-cancer drug, a sophisticated but now standard form of therapy for this condition, the lymphoma in her brain did not respond to any therapy. During this period, she lost weight, her speech slowed; she was less alert and had difficulty walking.

A subsequent CAT scan showed that the lymphoma was in her liver in huge amounts.Doctors said there was nothing else medicine could offer. After consultation with her family and in keeping with the intent of her living will, Mrs. Onassis asked to go home from the hospital.

The above was reported in the New York Times of May 20 1994 (read article at following link

Harvey Diamond, in his best seller FIT FOR LIFE, A NEW BEGINNING, was more explicit in his description of Mrs. Onassis’s  battle with lymphoma…the following are excerpts from the book:

…..she was bombarded with drugs. Lots of powerful, virulent, energy-sapping, life-diminishing drugs. The New York Times stated that she “initially responded to therapy, but it (cancer) came back in her brain and spread through her body”

For the unrelenting pain in her neck, Mrs. Onassis received more drugs.  For the acute pneumonia she developed in her weakened state, she received more drugs.  Steroids were part of the mixture in her chemotherapy, which caused a perforated ulcer in her stomach.  In the middle of her ordeal, she had to be operated on to sew up the hole in her stomach.  She went from bad to worse, and as a final assault on her body, she was subjected to even more radiation and chemotherapy, only this time it was shot directly into her brain.  The cancer spread to her spinal cord, her liver, and throughout her body.  She became weak and disoriented, lost weight, developed shaking chills, her speech slowed, and she had difficulty walking.


Mrs. Onassis was diagnosed with NHL in January 1994 and she passed away on May 19 1994…just barely 5 months after diagnosis/treatments. Why did she have to die such a painful death? Did the scientifically tested, proven and evidence-based cancer treatments caused the cancer to spread? Or was the NHL too aggressive?

We leave it to you to be the judge.

Professor Stoller’s Cancer Experience

Book Review: Stranger in the Village of the Sick


Professor Paul Stoller is an interesting man and he wrote a very interesting book.

Why is he an interesting man?

He wrote: As a child my parents immersed me in the culture of Judaism. I attended Hebrew school. As a young man, my graduate education assimilated me to the culture of anthropology. I learned how to write research proposals, conduct ethnographic research and “write up” the results. I have been a professional anthropologist for more than twenty-five years. When he was a young anthropologist Stoller went to Niger, Western Africa, to study the culture of the Songhay, the main ethnic group that form the Songhay Empire – one of the largest Islamic empires in history, sometime in early 15th to the late 16th century. The Songhay practises sorcery – the art of black magic or witchcraft and use supernatural power to heal or to control others.  Stroller was initiated into sorcery by Adamu Jenitongo.  Perhaps they are like bomohs or village shamans in this part of our world. Stoller wrote: In Niger, I learned to mix potions, read divinatory shells and recite incantations.

Why is his book interesting? 

Professor Stoller was diagnosed with lymphoma and has undergone chemotherapy. He came out “successful” after his treatment and he wrote vivid accounts about his cancer journey –  his fears, his pains, his worries and how he coped.

  • Stoller wrote: My own religious background, Judaism, gave me a set of abstract principles about the world in which I lived, but provided no concrete formulas for dealing with an unexpected and incurable disease. So Stoller had to rely on his sorcery knowledge that he learned in Africa to see him through his cancer experience. Being thrust into a new world that would change my life forever prompted me to think long and hard about my experience among the Songhay people of the Republic of Niger. In time of despair, over and over again, Stoller found comfort in the words and teachings of his long-gone Master, Adamu Jenitongo. At times, he heard Adamu whispering to him and telling him what to do.

There are many things in Stoller’s writing that cancer patients can learn from. The following (italic) are extracts from his book.

Diagnosis of Cancer

Professor Stoller was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma in March 2001. He wrote:

  • In a flash, cancer had abruptly taken control of my life and forced me onto a dreadful new path that promised unspeakable pain and endless suffering. The terrifying prospect of a slow and unbearable death made me tremble. These frightening thoughts quickly transformed me into a powerless person.
  • I didn’t notice my surroundings. Like a zombie, I signed in, sat down and waited. I felt like a dead man walking to the gas chamber.
  • In that moment the world that I had known completely crumbled. My head, suddenly heavy and weary, sunk to my chest. I stared at the floor unable to move. Cancer, I said to myself. How could I have cancer? I had done all the right things: good diet, exercise, minimal stress. Would I be dead in six months?
  • Despite improvements in treatment and better rates of survival, a diagnosis of cancer is still perceived as a sentence to a slow and painful death.
  • Now I wondered if I would survive one year, two years, perhaps five. Ten years suddenly seemed like a life time. If only I could have another ten years.
  • My current circumstances had compelled me to spend quite a lot of time thinking about my life.
  • Cancer always makes you confront death. This unwelcome and unexpected confrontation quickly erodes the gender, ethnic and class differences that divide American society… social differences among university professors, construction workers, and secretaries quickly fade away. Cancer makes us involuntary kin in the village of the sick. 

Lessons from the Songhay

  • A fundamental lesson in Songhay sorcery is: One must make careful preparations and be thoroughly protected before undertaking a task – especially with respect to the physical and psychological disruptions that a serious illness can trigger. You expect to confront all sorts of trouble – betrayal , loss, and illness – along your path. Although you cannot expect to evade misfortune … you can try to be prepared for it.
  • Feeling confident about the outcomes of our choices gives us a sense of control over our lives – something that most Americans strive for. Most Songhay people see the world quite differently. They believe that they have little control over what happens to them … uncertainty, rather than certainty, governs their journey through life. Like many Americans, I have a difficult time dealing with ambiguous uncertainty. In our main stream culture, we prefer quick, clear, concrete answers to difficult problem. We’d like to believe that we are able to control our destiny. If we get sick, we expect a quick fix. How many of us are able or willing to jump into a fast-moving stream and let the current carry us to an uncertain destinations? Most of us would feel that we were being foolhardy if we did so.
  • No amount of denial, numbness, or work, though, could erase my awareness of the “undefined mass” growing in my abdomen. I longed to be more like the Songhay. Why couldn’t I let fate carry me away to some unknown destinations? Why couldn’t I live with ambiguous uncertainty?
  •  You have been told that you have cancer, an event that marks a point of misfortune. Events have compelled you to decide which path to follow into the village of the sick. You also know that you alone will bear the consequences of that decision. When I found myself standing on this point of misfortune… I desperately wanted someone – anyone – to tell me what to do. As Adamu Jenitongo would say, they must find their own way. They must choose which path to take and bear the consequences. Cancer patients must make the same fateful choice. That is the reality that the newly diagnosed cancer patient faces; it is a hard reality to bear.
  • Most Americans don’t like to think too much about death. Many of us can’t even accept inevitable changes to our aging bodies, a sign that life is finite, let alone the specter of death. In the world of sorcery, however, illness is ever present in life. In that world, illness is a gateway to learning more about life. As for death, it is your continuous companion.

Chemotherapy Experience

  • I spent hours reading about the side effects of chemotherapy, information that filled me with fear and anxiety. I geared myself up for body-wrenching nausea, bone-weary fatigue, and hair loss. I bought an electric razor to avoid excessive bleeding from a shaving cut – and a soft toothbrush to guard against painful mouth sores. I also read the literature about Rituxan – it, too, could cause serious problems – fever, chills and heart irregularities – especially the first time it was administered.
  • The best strategy, which I followed one day prior to my initial treatment session, was to get a buzz cut to reduce the psychological shock of being suddenly bald.
  • Cancer patients were also advised to use mild shampoos, soft hairbrushes, and low heat setting on hair dryers.
  • Mouth sores, tender gums and sore throat, usually occurred seven to fourteen days after the beginning of treatment. Each person reacts differently. Side effects also depend upon the drug combinations you get.
  • I had appreciated the phone calls and cards I had received from family members after the diagnosis. Their expressions of concern made me feel better.
  • As I prepared to go to bed … I realized yet again that cancer patients – me, in this instance – must live alone with a disease that their own bodies had produced.
  • I had to learn to live with cancer, but somehow not allow it to take over my life.
  • As the chemotherapy agents destroyed healthy as well as malignant cells … my body would throb, especially in the neck, shoulders and back. In time, my throat would burn. I might get sores on my tongues, cheeks and lips. Periodic fevers would make me sweat. Rashes might spread over my body. And just as my body had cleansed itself of the poisons that precipitated this misery, I’d once again have to drag myself to the Cancer Centre … I’d be hooked up for another treatment and another three-week cycle of side effects.
  • I now knew that my life would never return to “normal.” Cancer and chemotherapy treatments would leave their mark on me. “You can stop the chemotherapy anytime you want,” one of my friends asserted after hearing vivid descriptions of the side effects. “Yes,” I said, “but what’s the alternatives?”
  • In treatment the world slows down. You must sit for hours as the chemotherapy drugs drip into your bloodstream. The drugs make your body ache. They make you tired. You have to pace yourself. They force you to be patient. Patience is the password in the village of the sick. Cancer patients have no choice. They have to confront their weariness and make the necessary accommodations. It is a humbling exercise.
  • As I went through the last phase of chemotherapy, though, the going got tough – more bad than good days. I developed periodic sore throat. A line of painful mouth sores developed on the blade of my tongue, making it difficult to swallow. My bones throbbed, and I developed such pulsing pain in my right knees. Pain and restlessness made a good night’s sleep a gift to be savored. Numbness became more and more noticeable in my feet and hands. Hand and foot cramps froze my joints in painful positions.  …chemotherapy’s side effects were cumulative.
  • No formula can wash away the pain and suffering that comes with the diagnosis and treatment of cancer.

Lessons from the Songhay

  • I somehow managed to make it through the last six weeks of treatment…. In my dreams, I’d see myself seated next to my teacher in the shade of his conical straw hut. The world is patience, he’d say. The world is patience. Never before had I realised the importance of this adage.
  • Although my own middle-class suburban American upbringing had paved the way for my professional life, it had not prepared me for the pain and suffering of cancer. Instead, the wisdom of Songhay sorcery helped me to deal with the devastation that cancer brings to life. It calmed me in stressful situations. It enabled me to be patient in circumstances that provoked impatience. It gave me strength and determination in times of physical and emotional stress. And, as odd as it may seem, it showed me how to incorporate cancer into my life so that I could use it to grow both physically and emotionally.

Success – Remission!

CAT and PET scan results showed Professor Stoller was lymphoma-free. He was in complete remission.

  • How many years of good health, exactly? How long could I expect to remain in remission? You could be in remission for two years, five years. In some cases, people remain in remission for ten years. In other cases, the lymphoma comes back in six months. (Note: from the Internet, I learned that Professor Stoller is still healthy. His success is most outstanding. It has been 11 years now).
  • At the end of treatment, the side effects of chemotherapy drugs slowly fade away. The aches and pains dissipate. The mouth sores disappear. Your throat clears. The fevers fade away. Your appetite returns. Energy surges through your body. Even though you feel “normal,” you still think about cancer every day – if only a little  while.
  • When cancer patients enter the zone of remission … you are in a space between the comfortable assumptions of your old life and the uncomfortable uncertainties of your new life. You have long left the village of the healthy … Once you enter the village of the sick, you can never fully return to the village of the healthy.
  • Restoration of health does not make you a conqueror.

Lessons from the Songhay

  • If a Songhay develops a serious illness like cancer, he or she is likely to build respect for it. Respect for cancer – or any illness – does not mean that you meekly submit to the ravages of disease.  Following the ideas of sages like Adamu Jenitongo, illness is accepted as an ongoing part of life. When illness appears, it presents one with limitations, but if it is possible to accept the limitations and work within their parameters, one can create a degree of comforts in uncomfortable circumstances.
  • Remission can also be like a prison from which the cancer patient cannot escape. Confronting remission’s impermanence is not easy. There are junctures during remission that remind you what a delicate state it can be.  Once in remission, waiting for the results of regularly schedules CAT scan can become exceedingly stressful and can plunge you into depression. If the results come back normal, remission continues. If the scans indicate the return of malignant cells, you may need an additional, more powerful toxic treatment. You may even need palliative care to ease the journey toward your ultimate demise – a destination we all share.
  • My experiences in the world of Songhay sorcery have helped me to cope with the diagnosis of and treatment of lymphoma. What’s more, Adamu Jenitongo’s soft voice comes to me regularly in dreams. He reminds me to accept my limitations and remove resentment from my mind. He tells me to be patient in a world of impatience. He encourages me to be humble and refine my knowledge so that others might learn from it. 

Balance and Harmony

  • In Songhay philosophy, internal and external harmony enables a person to see life more clearly.
  • When you learn you have cancer, the world spins out of control. You are thrown into a world of medical procedures and inconclusive diagnoses. What’s more, you have to interact with technicians and medical professionals, many of whom can be insensitive.
  • You find yourself in the vortex of a whirlwind. No matter what kind of support you have from friends, family and professionals –  ultimately  you … must face your fate alone. No matter the degree of support that they gave, cancer patients must confront their illness alone.
  • Optimism, which can be learned, enables people to live longer, healthier, and happier lives, as compared with the experience of pessimistic people. Pessimism can lead to a sense of helplessness and trigger depression. Helplessness and depression, in turn, weaken the immune system, priming the body for serious illnesses and even premature death.
  • Being optimistic should not blind us from reality. You can be pessimistic, but not in a way that clouds your vision completely. Above all, you should attempt to be prepared to confront whatever life presents – pragmatic optimism laced with a practical pessimism.
  • I attempted to see things – including myself – more clearly. I attempted to prepare myself for what had appeared on my path. I read widely about my illness and possible treatments for it. To keep myself going, I tried to eat well and get plenty of sleep. I continued to write and do my work. I tried to enjoy my life. Although these measures did not wash away my worries about pain and death, they did sustain me through eight months of chemotherapy. They sustain me now that I’m in remission. And yet I realize that in the future I will face trouble for which I must be prepared. If the medical literature is accurate, it is only a matter of time until lymphoma cells reappear in my body. When that happens I will have to undergo more diagnostic test and more treatments. Despite the “darkness” of my future, I hope that my tempered optimism will enable me to enjoy the pleasures of good health for as long as I can.
  • Among the Songhay, clear vision also embodies a sense of humility. Arrogance, I have learned, can do a person great harm. The medical stance toward illness is militaristic. Illness is an invading force, a foreigner attempting to colonize the body. That alien force must first be subdued and then eliminated. Medical science has developed an impressive array of technological weapons to kill invading cells … which leads to the belief that we have the capacity to eradicate illnesses like cancer. In Balinese and Songhay society, by contrast, people have a more humble take on illness …. To respect the power of illness, which means that they attempt to incorporate it into their lives. If illness is incorporated into one’s life, people can use it to become stronger in body and wiser in spirit.
  • Cancer propels you down a difficult path on which it is important to be humble. If you are arrogant about life and believe that you can master illness, a disease, like cancer, can force you into a needlessly desperate corner.
  • The world of cancer is particularly fraught with war metaphors. We are fighting the war on cancer. Cancer cells attack and overwhelm healthy cells. Oncologists then send a sortie of chemotherapy agents on search-and-destroy missions. These agents destroy the enemy, but also kill healthy bystanders – collateral damage. These missions often result in heavy casualties. Although the technological marvels of modern medicine may make you the survivor of many battles, can you ever win the war? Adamu Jenitongo told me that one needs to respect illness as a part of life. If you respect illness, you can use it to develop your being.
  • Illness is a part of life; it lies within us and waits for the right moment to appear. The ideal for Songhay is to learn to respect the unalterable presence of illness and live with it. If you learn to live with illness, your being becomes stronger and stronger. The idea of living with an illness runs counter to major themes in American culture. No one wants to live with an illness. If we contract an illness, we want to conquer it.

Lessons from the Songhay

  • My teacher always said that there are many paths to well-being. I now understand more fully what that meant.
  • Confronting cancer is a frightening lonely proposition. How do you deal with your isolation? Songhay sorcerers have one suggestion; they say that you should diligently perform personal rituals. Each of us has his or her personal rituals. Doing certain things when we wake up or go to sleep may help to set the world straight and bring us a sense of calm. Where we are able to perform these personal rituals, they give us a good feeling … we can generate and maintain a measure of control over our lives. Engaging in personal rituals, of course, cannot guarantee a successful course of chemotherapy, but it can assure, I think, a certain sense of personal control, which goes a long way toward maintaining quality of life. Any cancer patient can engage in this kind of ritual …  you might recite a certain prayer or poem … that gives you comfort. You might wear clothing that makes you feel confident. You might bring music that sends you on a soothing dreamlike journey … They can bring you peace, so that you can be ready for what life presents on your path.

Finding Meaning in Your Cancer

  • Having been diagnosed with and treated for lymphoma forced me to reflect deeply about the meaning of my life. It is unthinkable to be grateful for a diagnosis of cancer. No one desires the pain and suffering that come with a serious illness. But once you’ve got it… why not incorporate it, as the Songhay would say, to bring to your being a deeper understanding of life’s forces and meanings? Cancer can be used, and my example is one of many thousands, to grow and change. 
  • Cancer compelled me to see myself – my being – more clearly.
  • As odd as it may seem, the unanticipated and devastating presence of cancer in my body opened a pathway to personal growth and development. It deepened my spiritual beliefs, refocused my professional visions and forced me to understand more realistically the symbiotic relationship between illness and health. In time, my experience of cancer toughened my body and strengthened my resolve.

What I Learned from Professor Stoller

I benefited a lot from Stoller’s writing. He showed me in words what it means to live with fear, in anxiety,  and what it was like to suffer pains associated with a diagnosis, treatment of cancer and even after the doctor had said you are cancer-free (really, cancer-free?).

For sixteen years, I saw how patients suffer from their cancer but I have not read any book that describes in detail their cancer experiences.  What Stoller wrote impacted me very much. It helped me to understand more about my patients’ sufferings – mentally, emotionally and physically.  As healers or caregivers, we experience cancer as a by stander – just from the outside, and we are not really involved. We assumed that we understand the patients’ sufferings – generally we don’t. We only learn about their problems through our “textbooks.” We don’t feel how they feel although we think that we know and care. The truth is – we are not supposed to be involved. The medical term for this attitude is detached concern.

These words that  Stoller wrote had made an impact on me: When I found myself standing on this point of misfortune… I desperately wanted someone – anyone – to tell me what to do. As Adamu Jenitongo would say, they must find their own way. They must choose which path to take and bear the consequences. Cancer patients must make the same fateful choice. That is the reality that the newly diagnosed cancer patient faces; it is a hard reality to bear. 

Here it was, an educated man – a professor of an American university, wanted someone – anyone – to tell him what to do.  He lived in America and had access to the best of medical facilities, why did he need someone – anyone – to advise him? It just shows how vulnerable we all are. I recall one patient who had cervical cancer. She did not know what to do after her diagnosis. Through the phone we talked to each other every day – and I was guiding her all the way. Even before going into the operation theatre, I had to talk to her to encourage her to take things easy. After the operation she called to say thank you and said that she benefited very much because I was there “by her side” all the way. Well, I took what she said as the usual compliment. After all, I thought, it is my job to help people. Let me put it right – this job is provided without any fee! But I still call it my job – perhaps social responsibility is more appropriate? However, after reading what Stoller wrote this responsibility acquired a deeper meaning. I felt more empathy for those who come to seek my help (which previously I called shopping spree) – for they are really lost and need someone – anyone, to guide them. I wonder, like Stoller – why don’t they go to the hospitals and consult the “real” professionals?

From this, it dawned on me that the role of CA Care has evolved to yet another level. Two days ago, two patients flew in from Makassar, Indonesia. They came to ask what to do. By right, they should have gone to see doctors in the hospitals, why come to CA Care? Their problem is they don’t even know where to go and what doctor to see! This time, I felt more empathy for them. I now realize that they are desperate and lost.  I have to be patient. They needed someone to guide them – like Stoller too. And these patients are far less educated than Stoller and they come from a much less developed place than America!

Last night, while I was writing this article, a lady with breast cancer called. She had undergone a mastectomy and wanted to know what to do next – to go for chemo or not to go. I told her not to panic or be in a rush to do things. Take it easy and ask her to come and see me with all the medical reports.  She replied: No, I am not afraid. I don’t panic either. I am glad that I have you to guide me from the very beginning. I am okay. Her words brought a different meaning to me – after reading Stoller’s book.

Professor Stoller benefited from the wisdom of his Master, Adamu Jenitongo. How could this be – a professor from America learning from an African bushman?  Listen to the wise words of Adamu: We all live on borrowed time. We should make the most of our borrowed time. To accomplish this feat, we need to pick our battles very carefully and exert our force when it is important to do so. A true sorcerer must not waste energy on needless battles.  You must avoid conflict as often as possible. When you do fight a battle, make sure it is an important one. Knowing when to fight is the mark of courage; it prepares you for battles worthy of your power.  Winning is not the goal of everyday confrontations. Cancer patients, old and young, male and female, have often learned to live with their illness and accept the difficult fact that death is part of life. Those lessons have enabled them to maintain their dignity and improve the quality of their lives. For me, that is the mark of courage.

I urged you to reflect deeply those words in bold. I for sure also benefited from this great, wise, 100-year-plus-old man, who came from the bushes of Africa.

Some Quotations

  • Given the realities of the American medical system, patients are often treated with insensitivity … “patients” must be “patient” for they have few rights and limited importance. Arthur Frank (The Wounded Storyteller) suggests that patients are subjects who are colonized by medicine.
  • Truth, I learn, is an unstable condition. To paraphrase William James, truth is like a check. It’s good only as long as there is money in the bank.
  • Skepticism has been central to the Western pursuit of knowledge. They tend to be skeptical of alternative medicine or nonscientific approaches to healing the body. It makes them cautious about diagnosis, a practice … that is laced with uncertainty and doubt. From within the village of the healthy, skepticism makes good sense; it has advanced our knowledge of and control over the world by leaps and bounds.  From within the village of the sick, in which death is our constant companions, skepticism fades away … you begin to wonder if skepticism is good for your body.
  • You look, but you don’t see. You listen, but you don’t hear. You touch, but you don’t feel – it takes a lifetime to learn how to “see,” “hear,” and “feel” the world.
  • You must earn knowledge. To earn it, misfortune must test your courage. Knowledge is greater than we are. You have to learn it slowly. You have to respect its power.
  • The Songhay realise that knowledge they acquired is borrowed and that their responsibility is to refine what they have learned and pass it on to the next generation. 

Dissecting Chemotherapy 12: Almost ‘chopped off’ by CHOP-R for Her Lymphoma

Pat (not real name- SY216) is a 72-year-old lady. Sometime in mid-2010, she was on TB medication for six months. Her legs, abdomen and hands were swollen.  A CT scan done on 22 December 2010 showed a 12.1 x 10.7 x 5.6 cm mass in the para-aortic region and there are multiple masses involving the left kidney and bilateral adrenal glands.  CT chest shows cardiomegaly with mild pericardial effusion. The likely diagnosis is lymphoma.

A biopsy done on 16 February 2011 confirmed diffuse large B cell lymphoma.  Pat underwent chemotherapy. The regimen used was CHOP-R, consisting of Cyclophosphamide + Andriamycin + Vincristine + Prenisolone + Rituximab.

The first cycle that Pat received on 24 February 2011 was of low dosage. Pat received the second cycle on 4 March 2011. This second cycle was a full dose. About a week later, Pat suffered severe side effects and her husband said, “She was almost “chopped off” by CHOP-R.”

Pat and her family decided to give up further chemotherapy. She and her family came to seek our help on 23 April 2011. She presented with “bad” liver (see table of blood test of 13 April 2011). Pat was prescribed Capsule A + B, Liver-P, LL-tea for her liver and Lympho 1 and Lympho 2 teas for her lymphoma.

On 17 October 2011, Chris had a chance to meet up with Pat and her family. Listen to our conversation that day.



13 April 2011 23 April 2011 27 July 2011 12 Oct. 2011

31    Low

Started on herbs



Alkaline Phosphatase

261  High




 42    High



ALT       59




185   High



Pat has been taking our herbs very religiously and she is doing well after giving up her chemo. As of this writing, 15 February 2012, Pat is doing fine. According to her daughter, Pat went to Singapore for her Chinese New Year Holiday (end of January 2012).


Pat suffered badly after her first cycle of CHOP-R. She could not take it anymore. Ask this question – what could have happened if Pat were to persist and continued with her chemo? Assuming she was able to complete a course of six cycles, what could have been the benefit?

Pat gave up and turned to our herbs. Did she die of her lymphoma even after giving up the chemo?  The next important question is, can her lymphoma recur? Yes. It does not matter if she had completed her full course of chemo or not.

The late Dr. Stephen Schneider, was a world famous professor at Stanford University. He was diagnosed with lymphoma in 2001. He was treated by Dr. Sandra Horning, a leading expert on lymphoma – “the best person in the world for treating what you have”. Dr. Horning is also from Stanford and is a professor of medicine. Schneider received the “new” Stanford’s chemotherapy regimen using CHOP + R. After three cycles of CHOPR-R, CT scan showed that the lumps had disappeared. Schneider continued with chemotherapy and in total had six cycles. Although in remission Schneider was told that the cancer cells might still be hiding somewhere in the body – perhaps the bones and behind the eye balls. To be sure, Schneider had to undergo a bone marrow transplantation (BMT). Sandra said, “We never use the word ‘cure’ just remission. We’re very hopeful you will have a long and strong remission.”

It is sad to say that in spite of all the best efforts, Dr. Schneider died on 19 July 2010, after an apparent heart attack on an airplane while en route to London from a scientific conference in Stockholm. He was 65. In short, Schneider survived for nine years after his cancer diagnosis and treatment.  Did medicine really cure his cancer? Does this sound familiar?  The operation is a success but the patient died of complications?   Cytoxan (one of the chemo drug used on Schneider) has its harmful effects.  Schneider received a lot of that drug and he knew the odds when it wrote “it was known to deteriorate heart and lung condition, the cost-benefit calculus was not going to see me getting away scot-free.”

Let me end by asking you to reflect on the following quotations:




Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma of the Stomach: One cycle of chemo made him really sick. He took herbs and life was restored

Eng (H241) is a 65-year-old male.  In 2007 he underwent an angioplasty procedure. Sometime in July 2009, he suffered from indigestion and nausea. Then in August 2009, he vomited blood. He was admitted into a government hospital. A biopsy done on 23 October 2009 indicated large cell, B-cell type gastric non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma (NHL) of intermediate grade.

On 8 December 2009, he underwent chemotherapy with modified CHOP –  cyclophosphamide + vincristine + Epirubicin and Prednisolone.  Medical record indicated he received a LOWER dosage due to his past medical history.  He suffered the following severe side effects after just a cycle of chemotherapy.

  • Nausea
  • Vomiting
  • Fevers, temperature 38.1 C
  • Slow heartbeat (junctional bradycardia)
  • Hardening (consolidation) of the right lung
  • Stroke (left thalamus infarction)
  • Uncontrolled hypertension

As a result of the above, life was difficult for Eng. He had no strength and was unable to urinate. This is what was written on his medical report. “20 December 2009 – In view of patient’s poor tolerance to chemo and the lesion is localized within the stomach” patient was referred for radiotherapy.

Eng was asked to undergo 25 times of radiation treatment. He refused.  He was discharged and prescribed with the following drugs:

  1. Omeprazole
  2. Lovastatin
  3. Ticlid
  4. Isordil
  5. Amlodipine
  6. Perindopril
  7. Prazocin
  8. Gliclazide
  9. Laquid paraffin
  10. Lactulose

Patient’s daughter came to seek our help on 17 January 2010. She presented her father’s condition as below:

  1. No pain
  2. Unable to sleep
  3. Can’t eat  – no appetite, nausea and sometimes vomit
  4. Tired
  5. Bowel movements once every few days – constipatioin
  6. Cough with sticky phlegm
  7. Breathless
  8. No strength

We prescribed Capsule A, C-tea, Lympho 1 and 2 teas, Constipation tea and Appetite & Vomit tea.

24 January 2010: After one week on the herbs, his appetite and bowel movements improved. He could talk with a louder voice. But he still had difficulty with urination.

29 January 2010: No more nausea, every day he moved his bowels, and he was able to walk better. Before the herbs he was only able to stand up for a while only.

5 March 2010: Health improved – could walk. Appetite improved. Swelling of both legs were gone. He was able to urinate.  For the first time, his daughter brought her father to meet us (see video).

12 November 2010: Eng came to see us. He was doing fine.

9 December 2011: He was doing fine – almost two years since he started taking the herbs.  Eng came to see us with his daughter (see video).


Permission to use this video without having to mask patient’s face is granted by the family.



  1. Because of his medical history, Eng was only given “lower” dose chemotherapy. In spite of that, he suffered severe side effects. What do you think could happen if he was to be given a “FULL” dose? Can he die from the treatment?
  2. What is the idea or rationale of receiving “lower” dose chemotherapy? Do you mean to say that a “lower” dose can also cure him when using a “full “dose may not cure patients?
  3. Since further chemotherapy had to be aborted, Eng was asked to undergo 25 times of radiotherapy. Was this a wise advice? Can radiotherapy cure stomach lymphoma?
  4. What could have happened if Eng were to undergo radiotherapy? Would he not suffer even worse side effects?

The family decided to give up medical treatment. Eng’s daughter surfed the net and found CA Care. Eng was put on herbs. His conditions improved and as of this writing (13 December 2011), after almost two years, he is still doing fine.

  1. Does this not indicate that what Eng did for the past two years – taking herbs and change of diet – is good for him?  How much scientific proof do we need from this success story?
  2. Think hard – do you really need chemo or radiation for such a case? Is there not a better way of treating such a “sick” person like Eng besides such invasive treatments?

Let me end with these quotations:



Lymphoma: Chemotherapy Failed, Life Was Miserable But Herbs and e-Therapy Revived Her

Acknowledgment: The patient granted her permission to use this video without having to mask her face.

1.  A Long Journey From Home to Penang

MN (S-81) is a 56-year-old lady from Indonesia.  She and her husband came to a private hospital in Penang to search for an alternative treatment for her Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma.  But there was none. She was given the same option – undergo chemotherapy again.

They live in Labuan Batu, a town south of Medan. Coming to Penang is a long journey indeed. From home, first they had to travel for 9 hours by bus (or 6 hours by train) to  Medan. After an overnight stay in Medan, they took a plane to Penang.

2.  Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma

Sometime in early 2011, MN felt lethargic. Her stomach was painful. She had profuse sweating, specially her head . For the past one year she had been coughing. Doctors were unable to cure her coughs.

In May 2011, MN was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. She underwent six cycles of chemotherapy with CHOP.

After the completion of the chemo treatment the cancer recurred in the form of a small swelling at her left collar bone – at the same spot where she did a biopsy earlier. MN was asked to undergo another round of chemotherapy. She refused and came to Penang looking for alternative medicine.

(Note: CHOP regimen consists of four drugs – Cyclophosphamide, Doxorubicin (or Adriamycin), Vincristine and Prednisolone. The first three drugs of the CHOP chemotherapy regimen are usually given as injections or infusions in veins on a single day, while prednisolone is taken as pills for five days. Each cycle is repeated every 3 weeks for 6 to 8 cycles).

MN received her treatment in a government hospital in Medan. Each treatment required a two-day stay in the hospital.

 3.  Life was Difficult During and After Chemotherapy

The first five chemos seemed to help MN. Her health seemed to improve. However, the sixth chemo was “bad”. Her health deteriorated – “dropped”. She had no strength and was not even able to climb out of bed by herself. She had to be hospitalized for two weeks. After being discharged from the hospital, she regained some strength. She was able to walk for about 10 metres and had to stop. At home she was not able to do anything. Her husband had to do all the house chores.

She said, “I walked a bit, my feet felt numb. My hands felt numb. I felt difficult, nauseous. I was bald.”

After chemo, her stomach pains disappeared but her one-year-old problem of coughs and profuse sweating persisted.

4.  Recurrence

One and a half months after the completion of her chemo, a small lump appeared at the collar bone – the same site where she first had her biopsy. The doctor in Medan confirmed it was a recurrence. She was asked to undergo a second round of chemotherapy.

5.   More of the Same Advice in Penang

MN said, “I do not want any more chemo. That is why I come here.”

MN and her husband came to a private hospital in Penang in December 2011 in the hope of finding an alternative treatment to chemo. But she was told to do more of the same thing – undergo more chemotherapy!

Husband: “No point. If we wanted to do chemo, we could have stayed back in Medan (treatment was given free-of-charge because he was an ex-government staff). In Penang, I have to pay for the treatment.”

The oncologist suggested two options. The first option is to use drugs that cost RM 7,000 per cycle. This means, the six-cycle-treatment would come to about RM 42,000. The oncologist told them that this treatment will cure her cancer. The second option is to use cheaper drugs costing RM 3,000 per cycle. But the effectiveness is uncertain.

Chris: Well, that means you have to sell your house to pay for the treatment?

MN: “No, we have no house to sell. Even to come here now – the expenses are provided by our children.”

Chris: Do you believe what the oncologist told you  – that the expensive chemo can cure you?

MN and Husband: “No, we never believe what he said.”

MN: “I refused to do more chemo. I can’t stand chemo any more. I can’t walk, I can’t eat. I am still bald now.”

6.  Disappointed – But Later They Found CA Care

MN and her husband were disappointed. They did not find the alternative treatment they wanted from the hospital. They did not know what to do next. However, a day later a lady told them about CA Care.

Chris: So you came to see us (on 18 December 2011).

MN: “Actually my son also asked me to find for an alternative way. He said I should find that herbalist in Penang. But he did not know who.”

7.   CA Care’s Herbs and e-Therapy Restored Her Health

MN was prescribed Capsule A, Lympho 1 and Lympho 2 teas, C-tea and Cough No 3, 5 and 11 for her problems. She was also told to take care of her diet.

Husband: “Her health improved within three weeks.”

Chris: Yesterday you told us that before you first came to Penang (in December 2011), all your friends who saw you cried. Why did they cry?

Husband: “They looked at her – her health was so bad. She was so weak. When we went home all her friends were smiling. She looked better.”

MN: “ I was so full of hope after meeting you, doctor.”

Chris: Are you sure that after taking the herbs for three weeks you are really better?

MN: “Yes.”

Husband: “Now she can walk for some distance without any problem. Before she had difficulty after walking 10 metres.”

MN: “My husband had to massage my legs every day.”

Husband:”Every time after she walked I had to massage her legs. Now I don’t have to do that anymore. She had not recovered 100 percent yet but her health has recovered by some 75 percent now.”

MN:”I had coughs for a year. I did X-ray three times and I saw all these doctors. The cough persisted. I took your herbs for four days and the coughs were almost gone!”

Chris: Praise and be thankful to God for this blessing.

MN: “When I first came here in December and was in the hospital, there was this patient who also came from Medan. She came to my room and help massaged my legs. She felt sorry for me. My legs were numb. That was before I came to see you. After I took your herbs there was no need for anyone to massage my legs any more.”

Chris to Husband: Ho, ho, you don’t have to do any more work! Very good, very good.

NM and husband returned to Penang after taking three weeks of herbs. This was in January 2012. She underwent three days of treatment with the e-Therapy.

MN:”My health improved further. I don’t feel numb or tired anymore. Instead it is my husband who felt tired when we walked this morning.”

Chris: Oh no – I have to take care of your husband too?

8.  You are Blessed! 

Chris: You are indeed blessed. After seeing the oncologist in the hospital you all were disappointed because you could not find what you wanted from the hospital. You did not know where else to turn to. But a day later – after you prayed – an “angel lady” appeared and told you about CA Care.

Husband:”We were ready to go home “empty handed.”We did not have the funds to pay for such expensive treatment which we did not come for anway.” 

Chris: Indeed it was a blessing from God. I fully understand the situation you are in. 

9.   Go Home and Be Careful – Take Care of Yourself

Chris: I am so happy that I am able to help you. This is my advice – please go home and take care of yourself well. Take care of your diet, exercise and take the herbs. My herbs are not magic but I believe they do help you.

MN and her husband returned to CA Care on 8 January 2012 and underwent the e-Therapy.

Watch this video.

After three weeks of herbs

She reported her health had improved:

  • Her coughs were almost gone – now she coughs once a while. Previously it was continuously.
  • She had more energy.
  • Her appetite improved.
  • The “heaty” feeling in the left side of her abdomen comes once in a while. Previously it was often.
  • Profuse sweating in the head was much less. Previously it was soaking wet and happened often, day and night.
  • She slept well. Before it was difficult.
  • Numbness of her fingers was gone but the numbness of her legs persisted although there was improvement.
  • She had more strength to walk. She could walk 100 metres without feeling tired. Previously even doing 10 or 20 metres was difficult.
  • The only problem she has now is a feeling of “ discomfort /numbness” in her right shoulder.

After first session of e-Therapy

  • She felt real good.
  • The body felt lighter.
  • Numbness of the legs was much less.

After second session of e-Therapy

  • She felt better.
  • Numbness of her legs had improved further.
  • Urination and bowel movements were better.
  • She had more energy.
  • She had no more coughs.
  • Discomfort in the left shoulder still persisted.

After third session of e-Therapy

  • The discomfort in the left should was gone.


Many Indonesian patients who come to seek our help need to travel from afar.  We empathize with them. This is indeed a test of their commitment and a testimony of their real desire of wanting to help themselves. In contrast, we have phone calls and e-mails from patients who live just a few miles away and yet they complained that it is difficult to come and see us. They prefer consultation over the phone. Similarly we have patients from Sarawak, Sabah or Singapore who only want us to help them through the phone or internet. Unfortunately, we cannot help such patients. It is better that they go and seek help from herbalists nearby their homes. Life is easier that way – for them and also for us.

But for those like MN, who have travel so far to come and seek help, we pray that we never let them down. We shall do our utmost best to help them. Indeed this case is an example of a wonderful and rewarding effort that makes our day real great. We thank God for His  blessings – and hope many more cases like this will continue to come by our way.

Lymphoma Recurred Two Years After Intensive Chemo – Took Herbs and Remained Well

Siew (A948) was 20 years old when he suffered high fevers on and off in 1996. There was also a lump on the left side of his neck. He consulted a Chinese sinseh who told him that this was due to heatiness. Since the problem persisted,

The treatment consisted of the following:

Induction Phase

  1. Vincristine on days 1, 8, 15, 22 and 29.
  2. Daunorubicin on days 1, 8, 15, 22 and 29.
  3. Prednisolone on days 1 to 22.
  4. L-asparaginase on days 15 to 28.

After the induction phase, treatment rested for 2 weeks and phase 2 started as follows:

Phase 2

  1. Cyclophosphamide on days 26 and 50.
  2. Ara C (andriamycin) on days 13 to 16, 43 to 46, 50 to 53 and 57 to 60.
  3. 6-MP, throughout cranial irradiation.
  4. MTX
  5. Cranial irradiation for 15 times.

After completion of Phase 2, treatment rested for 2 weeks and continued with:

Phase 3

  1. Mitoxanthrone on days 2 and 3.
  2. Ara C on days 1 to 4.

On 31 July 1997, Siew’s liver enzymes were elevated and HbsAg was reactive. His   doctor thought this was probably due to blood transfusion related hepatitis. Further chemotherapy was withheld. Siew’s liver function returned to normal and the ultrasound of his abdomen was also normal. A Bone Marrow Aspiration (BMA) done on 17 September 1997, showed no evidence of infiltration.

From 1 October 1997, Siew was treated with MTX, L-asparaginase, folinic acide and methotrexate. On 29 October 1997, another BMA was performed and the result was negative. More chemotherapy treatments followed on regular basis until May 1998.

Siew was on oral medication in 1999. In 2000 he seemed to be well and was not on any medication. In July 2000, Siew came to seek our help. He was prescribed some herbs but that first visit was also his last visit to us.

About 2 years later, in March 2002, Siew came back to see us again. He presented with:

  1. Feeling of heaviness in his head.
  2. Tiredness.
  3. Swellings on the right side of his neck. There were pulling sensations with slight pains.

We suggested that Siew go back to his doctors at the hospital for further medical treatment. Siew flatly refused. He told us that the doctor wanted to do a biopsy of the lump. He also knew that he would most likely have to undergo chemotherapy again. Siew said that in the past he had been very lucky to get out of the hospital alive. While in the hospital receiving treatment, he saw many patients in similar situation did not make it and died.

We respected Siew’s decision to opt for herbs instead of chemotherapy. We cautioned him that the lumps in his neck may not go away. And there would be no guarantee that he would be better either. Siew and his wife understood the risks he was taking.

Siew felt better after one week on the herbs.  His head did feel heavy anymore. The lumps in his neck seemed to loosen up and there were no more pulling sensations. However, he still felt tired.

After about two months on the herbs, Siew noticed that the neck swelling seemed to increase in size. Also, there were additional lumps. However, Siew’s health was good.

After about a year on herbs, Siew reported that he had less episodes of fevers compared to previous time. However, sometimes he felt heaty. Our Heat Flu herbs helped him resolved this problem. At an earlier occasion, Siew showed us there were 3 lumps forming a loose cluster in his neck. But by then, two lumps had disappeared. The size of the remaining lump has gone smaller.

As of this writing, April 2009, it has been 7 years since Siew decided to abandon medical intervention and came to see. During this period, he took our herbs very religiously and kept to our recommended diet. Siew appeared well and did not suffer any problem. He is well to this day.

On 12 April 2009, we had a short chat with Siew and his wife. Following are excerpts of our conversation.

Chris (C): You look good.

C: You had cancer in 1997?

S: Yes. There was a lump at my neck. I went to GH for my chemo.

C: How long was your chemotherapy?

S: About 2 years, in and out of hospital.

W: After that it came back. In one and a half years, there was a big lump again.

S:  Now there is also a lump.

W:  But it is very small, so very tiny.

C: Let me see. Why is it red?

S:  I touched it.

W: Cannot feel it any more. Last time, I could easily feel it. It was much bigger.

S:  Last time, I can feel it as soon as I place my hand on the neck. Now, I have to really feel for it. I have to press into the neck to find it.

W: Like you say: Live with it.

C: In these seven years, do you have any problems?

S:  Not really. Sometimes I may have a bit of fever.

W: Very seldom now. Last time, it was very often.

C:  I remember, you used to have fevers very often.

W: In agreement.

S:  When I get a headache, the fever will also come.

W: But it is nothing serious.

C: So, after the chemo, there was a recurrence?

W: The doctor wanted him to go for biopsy. But he ran away.

(Everybody laughing)

C: The doctor recommended chemo?

S: But they wanted to do a biopsy first.

W: I brought him out of the hospital.

S: She brought me home. She helped me run away.

C:  What made you do that?

W:  We already know that it is cancer. What is the point of doing another biopsy? It does not make sense.  That was how I thought then. So, I brought him here. I don’t like the idea of disturbing the lump.

S:  To me it is alright to do the biopsy. But after that, they want me to do chemotherapy. I do not want to do anymore chemotherapy. My wife’s way of thinking gave me a way (a choice) to refuse chemo.

W:  He did not want to do any more chemotherapy as he suffered badly when he had his chemo before.

C: Was chemotherapy so terrible?

W: He even fainted on the road at one time.

S:  It was a black out – but it was only for a short period of time. It was during my chemotherapy days.

W: And his liver was also affected. There was nothing wrong with his liver before the chemotherapy. The doctor said he had hepatitis and all sorts of thing. They wanted him to take more medications. Since he had a choice, he chose to come here. We did exactly what you told us to do. He drank apple juice and juice extracted from the leaves of seven needles plant and all that.

C:  I remember. When you first came, I was also worried for you.

S:  At that time, I was only twenty plus years old.  Now I am already thirty plus years old.

W: But the most important thing is the food he eats.

S: If I were to go for chemo, I cannot do any work.

C: You mean, the two years during your chemotherapy, you did not work?

S:  Yes, I did not work.  You see, I cannot eat well. I vomited. I felt weak.

C: What about your memory?

S: Not bad.

W: You forget very easily. You do not have good memory.

S: Of course I can remember whatever happened a day or two ago. But for things that happened too long ago, I don’t remember very well.

W: He does not remember faces. Cannot recognize people he met.

C: Compare to the time before your chemo. Is there a difference in your memory?

S & W: Yes. There is a difference.

S: I forget more easily. I am not as sharp as before.

W: He is quite slow.

S: (In agreement) Yes. When I talk, it is not like before. I do not speak as fluently as before. Sort of become a bit blunt. Not as sharp as before.

W: And his hair is not as much as before. It had thinned a lot. And it had not grown back to as much as before.

S: When I talk, at times I cannot express myself well. I could not find the words to say whatever I wanted to say.

C:  Before your chemotherapy, do you experience this?

S:  No, never.

W: The only thing is he cannot eat what everybody else eats.

C:  Don’t think so much about eating.

S:  That is not important, that I am alive is good enough.


We have documented a similar case with Devi. She had a relapse soon after chemotherapy was completed. She took herbs and regained her health. It has been 12 years and Devi is still doing fine, leading a normal life. So Siew’s healing is not a fluke shot! It is a repeat of Devi’s case. Repeatability and this is what science is all about!

As of 2011, Siew is in perfect health and still taking the herbs. He has a very caring and supportive wife.

The Story of Devi: A lady lawyer about 40 years old, afflicted by Non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma.

(Reproduced from our book: Cancer Yet They Live)


Sometime in June 1997
Devi was diagnosed as having lymphoma. After finishing all medical treatments she came to CA Care on 18 August 1998 and started on the Cancer Care Therapy. On 18 March 1999 we met up with Devi and documented her conditions on video tape. The following are excerpts of our conversation.

Q:  What happened to you?

 A:  I was diagnosed as having lymphoma two years ago.  There was a conflict over the treatment I was to receive.  One oncologist said I could be cured by radiation. A few others felt that chemotherapy was the best solution.  I opted for chemotherapy.

After my first dose of chemotherapy, my entire digestive system was badly affected.  I spent two weeks in hospital, dosed with morphine.  They could not discover why I was reacting that way. 

Q:  Why were you on morphine?

A:  Because I was in pain.  The moment I consumed food, I had very severe pain.  I was lying in the hospital for two weeks until one day I went berserk because I had an overdose of morphine…I was not getting any better.  I have a nice surgeon who performed the operation and when he visited me I told him that I was not getting any better.  He agreed. It doesn’t look like you are.  Do you want to be discharged?, he asked. So, I discharged myself. 

I went to a clinic that practised chelation therapy and the doctor asked me what sort of diet I was on? I was told to stop taking solid food and to go on fruits, vegetables, semi-solids and fluids. Within two days on the recommended diet, the pain was gone.

Q:  Did you take any other medication? 

A:   No. I was only on the diet, no medication whatsoever. I was on fruits, vegetables and semi-solids.  Within a month, my digestive system was back to normal.  After that month,  I had to decide whether I wanted to go back for my next course of chemotherapy. I was really afraid of even considering chemotherapy.  The doctor thought that it was best that I went back for radiotherapy.  I went for 30 cycles of radiotherapy and then an extra five cycles.

Q:  You stopped chemotherapy totally?

A:  Yes.  I did not want any chemotherapy. The radiotherapy was done five days a week, continuously. 

Q:  After the radiation, what happened to you?

A: Comparatively,  I handled the radiation quite well.  After radiation, I was sent for a scan and the doctor said there was no evidence of cancer.  That was it, I thought that was the end.  I never even conceived that the cancer (was) coming back again.  I thought I was cured. Exactly a year later, I had a relapse of the lymphoma. 

Q:  After the radiation, you thought you were cured.  Did you go back to your old diet?

A:  Yes, I went back to my old lifestyle. I forgot about the fruit juices.  I had a relapse of the cancer, this time in the abdominal region. There was no pain, but a feeling of uneasiness in the abdominal region.  I was sent for a CT scan.  They detected tumours in the abdominal region.  The doctor said radiation was out.  I went for six cycles of chemotherapy.   The problem I faced during the chemotherapy was that after each session of the chemotherapy, even for the first dose, my white blood count used to drop to 0.7 … really rock bottom.

Each time my blood count went down, I was in the hospital for at least five days.  I was given a series of injections to boost the blood count. The chemotherapy I had was one session every three weeks.  

After six sessions of chemotherapy, I went for a scan.  There was no sign of cancer. I was alright.

However, I  was feeling lost again after the chemotherapy. There was a fear in me, like what would happen if the cancer comes back.  It had come back the previous time.  Would there be any drug or anything that I could go on taking that could keep the cancer at bay? The doctor said there was really nothing that I could do. Go for a check-up, look out for signs and if there was anything, go for a scan.

Q: Did you go for check-up regularly?

A:  Yes.  Firstly, it was every month.  Then every two months. 

Q:  Why then, do you go for the herbs?

 A:  As I said earlier, after the chemotherapy that is the end of the road.  Medically, they have nothing else to offer you. When I was in the hospital I heard patients talking about the rodent tuber. But nobody had really tried it out.  So, I told myself that if medical science had nothing to offer me after this, the only other option available to me would be to move to nature. I had this feeling in me —  we are so busy trying to develop things to cure ourselves that very often we overlook that the answer to all our cures is actually out there in nature.

I felt that I had nothing to lose by trying the rodent tuber.  And that was when I came to see you.

Q:  When you came to see me, were you feeling alright?

A:  No, when I came to see you, I had just finished my six cycles of chemotherapy and I was feeling very weak. 

Q:  When you first started taking the herbs, what was your initial reaction?  Were you sceptical about it? 

A; Quite honestly, I was a bit sceptical.  But at the same time, I thought it was my only hope. When you have an illness like cancer, you would grasp at any straw that is being held out to you.

Q:  After taking the herbs, did you find confidence or get any help at all?

A:  As time went on, I could actually feel my body recovering much faster. I felt much better. I was healthier and much more alive.  I used to be half-dead.

Q:  Do you really feel better or is it just a placebo effect?

No, no, no.  I could really feel my body responding. For one thing, I could really feel, I had more energy.  When I was undergoing my chemotherapy, and when I had finished my chemotherapy, there were times when I feel like I did not want to get out of my bed.  I just got up to eat and then went back to my bed again.  But after taking the herbs, I could feel myself building up energy and I was more active.  And right now, I am healthy enough and I have even gone back to work. 

Q:  Before you took the herbs and while you were on medical treatments, did you go back to work? 

A:  No …  for seven months. 

Q:  When you were on the herbs you began to pick yourself up?

A:  Yes, I had more energy.  I was more alive and hope started to build up.  It affected me psychologically as well.  I began to feel I was getting better.  I went back to life the way it should be instead of just lying in bed. So, I started work and I am back full-time.

Q:  How many months have you already been on the herbs?

A:  About six months. 

Q:  What about your diet?

A:  I am more of a vegetarian now, I keep off red meat and sea food except for fish. I eat fruits and vegetables.  

Q:  Some people say that if I cannot take my favourite food, life if not worth living. What is your comment to that ?

A:  What I have to say to those people is, life is worth more than just your favourite food.  It is a very small sacrifice to make.  Life is much more that just food. 

Q: You were a meat eater before and now you are a vegetarian.  Many people say that if you don’t  eat meat, you have no strength.  What have you got to say about that?

A;  No, not really.  In fact, I feel much healthier now that I cut meat out of my diet.  I have not lost energy at all.

On the subject of spirituality, Devi has this to say:

Many people are sceptical about God. … You ask a lot of people and they say they do not believe in God. But one thing I do know. I noticed that what really helps me out, apart from the diet and  the herbs were religion and prayer.  They gave me a lot of inner strength and belief.  I found that it made a world of difference when I started praying, Before, I wasn’t an atheist, nor was I praying regularly. At times when I hit a real low, I would pray and I would meditate. That really helped to alleviate me out of my depression.  Sometimes, I find the relief quite instantaneously. 

Q: What kind of relief?

A: When you are talking about depression.  It just hits you.  When I was undergoing chemotherapy and my blood count dropped,  I would be so listless, I could hardly eat anything. I had a feeling that I was not going to make it. It was then that I started going into prayer and meditation.  When I finished I was more calm and the “I am not going to make it feeling” wasn’t there anymore.  You feel that you can handle this kind of thing.

Q:  You have been taking the herbs for the last six months, do you find at any one time during this period that  you feel depressed and that you are not going to make it?

A:  No.

Q:  You are confident that you are going to go through it?

A: Yes.

Q:  Do you go for your medical check-up?

A: Yes.

Q: So far so good?

 A: Yes.  I told my doctor that I was on herbal treatment, meditation and prayer.  And during the last check up, he asked me if I am still on the herbs, prayer and mediation ? … I said, yes, very religiously.  And he just laughed!

Note: As of this writing – 2011, Devi is still doing fine and is still taking the herbs!