In Cancer: Is Doing Nothing Not Better than Doing Something

28 February 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

How are you? I hope you still remember me. Last November 2012, I went to meet you at your center with my family.

Last month on 25 January 2013, I went for another surgery to close my colostomy. Currently I face quite a number of problems like stomach pain, can’t eat (weight loss 5 kg in a month) and diarrhea. These few days the stools came out with blood clots. I went to see a few doctors in the government hospital but they can’t solve my problems.

Dr. Chris, I am seeking your advice and please tell me what to do as its really hurt. Awaiting your prompt reply.

Reply:   Yes, sure I remember you. Let me ask you some questions first:

1) Before this surgery, did you have such problems,  like pains, etc.?

2) When did your problems start? If after surgery, how many days after surgery?

3) Are the problems getting worse or getting better.

Let me know and we shall go from there.

1 March 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

Thanks for your prompt reply.
1) No, I don’t have these problems — pains and etc.,  before my surgery.

2) After surgery, on the 3rd day, initially I thought it was my gastric problem as I didn’t take any food at that time. But it’s not coz the pain in my abdomen still continued. It is so painful that I can’t sleep at night. The doctors only gave me Tramadol and also Morphine to ease my pain.

3) It’s getting worse especially theses two days. Thick and sticky blood came out. I am very afraid and don’t know what to do.

Reply: Thanks for your reply.

a) It looks like the problem is due to the surgery. And we don’t know what they did wrong there. Did you go back to the surgeon and ask? It looks like they only give you painkiller and morphine.

b) Coming out with thick and sticky blood is something not right, especially if this happen so long after the surgery. I wonder if they leave anything behind / inside when they close you.

My advice: We need to know the reason why and what went wrong. Why not go back to the surgeon again. Well, he can’t know unless he takes another CT scan. Okay for this time, you need to do the scan to know what really happen so that he can fix the problem for you.

Please let me know what happen if you do this. I am not sure what I can do or give you to correct this because I too don’t know what has gone wrong. Take care.

13 March 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

I’ve just been discharged from the hospital. My condition is not good. I will meet you in your Center this coming Friday (15 March 2013) at 10:30am. I will bring my latest CT scan report. I hope you can help me.

Patient came to Penang again on 15 March 2013. While of this visit, we put patient on the e-therapy . The following is the recording of our conversation that day.

17 March 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

I’ve just come back and arrived KL last night. Thanks very much for helping me and me. My  family and I are very grateful and appreciate for all your kind assistance. Yesterday I started to take Cap A, B, C, D.  I shall take the other herbs today when I go back to my home in JB. Last night the whole night I couldn’t sleep coz I had to move my bowels.

There are a lot of bowel movements and the stools are dark in colour and very smelly. My stomach feels much tender. I feel very, very weak after going to toilet so many times. I think more than 10 times till morning. I can hardly walk.  I had also started on my diet according to your advice.

Dr. Chris, l will arrange to meet you again next week after my one week on herbs and continue to do the e-therapy as what you have said. By the way, can I take morphine 10mg x 2 if I feel pain in my tummy? Till now my tummy is painful maybe becoz of too many times moving my bowels. Another thing is that I can hardly pass urine and it’s so painful during urination. Please advice.

Reply: 17 March 2013:  Thank you for your feedback.

a) I am glad that you started to move your bowels, meaning it is not blocked.

b) For this one week you will suffer from all the cleansing process. Take it easy.

c) Yes, you can take pain killer if you cannot bear the pain BUT did I not give you Pain Tea to take? Take Pain Tea 6 times a day and see if it helps.

d) Travelling is bad and staying in a new place is also bad for you. So I suggest you don’t come to Penang yet. Take the herbs for 2 to 3 weeks first. The first week you will suffer healing crisis. Second week I hope you get better and by the third week I hope you get much better. Even if you come now there is nothing much I can do because we need to allow the body to heal itself and this takes time. There is NO magic bullet. So you should think of coming here only in about 3 weeks from now to allow the herbs to work first. As it is it, it is too SOON.  Write again after one week and let me know your progress and then again after two weeks.

23 March 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

It’s the first week after I took your herbs and also had strictly kept to my diet i.e. no sugar, salt, oil and meat. I only took fruits and vegetables. Here’s the outcome after taking the herbs and Cap A, B, C, D.

1) Tummy still bloated but these two days felt more tender.
2) Both legs are still swollen.
3) Difficult to urinate and is painful.
4) Bowel movement is difficult and a lot of blood comes out.
5) Good appetite.
6) Fever on and off.
7) My Pain tea had finished and seems to work as I took 6 times a day like what you have said. Dr.,

Last two days I went back to hospital to see the surgeon as I wanted to know how he would explain my condition in detail. During conversation, I made notes for your reference as follow:

Leo:   Dr. what actually had happened to me? Can you explain in more detail? I thought this was only a minor surgery to close my colostomy (in January 2013). You said everything was fine. The only thing is in the future I would have a little bit of difficulty moving my bowels because my rectum is narrow.

Dr. X:  Your cancer tumors spread too fast after surgery although we have checked it before surgery.

L:  Why these few days I passed out stools with a lot of blood (50% stools and 50% blood) and the anus burnt and so was painful?

Dr. X:   Oh, your anus is painful every time you pass stools is because it’s too narrow to pass through. There’s blood in your stools because your cancer tumors had spread and its messy inside your colon. This I can’t help you as you had stage 4 CA Rectum although it has been removed in 2012. It had recurred.

L:   Can you do another surgery to open the colostomy like I had previously? I don’t want to suffer like this.

Dr. X:  The risk is too high. Maybe only 30 percent chance of survival if I do the surgery again because your intestine had burst and moreover the tumors are everywhere in your colon. You will die on the table due to severe bleeding.

L:  That means I would have to leave it like this, everyday suffering from tummy bloatedness and waiting to die one of these days? Do you think how long can I can survive?

Dr. X: I’m sorry we really can’t do anything. Go home and spend your precious time with your family while you are still able to now. Maybe you have less than three months to live or even shorter.

L:   I am really disappointed with what you have said as I had full confidence in you. But after all these, you say you can’t do anything. Since last year my CEA till January this year it never exceeded 6 ng/mL. The lowest was 2.5 ng/mL. One last question:  why is it now there are stools coming out from the wound that you closed the colostomy.

Dr. X:   Stools do come out sometimes because you can’t move your bowels at the down part. Once you can move it, there won’t be any more stools coming out again. It will close by itself if everything is fine one of these days.

Dr. Chris, I won’t give up just like this. I will continue to take your herbs for every time you said CA Care is the last stop for people like us. I know your herbs are not a magic bullet but I believe if I continue to take them and stick to your diet, my life will be prolonged. I didn’t ask for much and I have prepared myself. It’s all God’s will. 

Reply:  Thanks so much Leo for giving me the update of your conditions. Okay, after taking the herbs for a while now, has your condition improved or not?

27 March 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

Dr. Chris, I’m planning to visit you this coming Sunday to do the e-therapy. I feel better after I did it that day in your center. Regarding the video taken, it is not necessary to cover my face because I want to share with others …. After all, these are true.

Note; The last e-mail I received from Leo was 20 April  2013. I was later informed that Leo died.

Stop and Think

When I talked to Leo, I asked him many times, “Before the surgery, were you okay?” The answer: Yes, very well and no problem. After the surgery Leo suffered complication and he died soon afterwards.

Many people could not and would not accept that at times it is better to do nothing than to do something.  I am sure Leo would not have suffered if he did not go for the operation. Leave thing the way it was. And I am sure that he would have lived longer if he “did nothing.”

Another story come to mind. Terry (not real name) had recurrence of his lymphoma. His red blood counts were low. According to the doctor it was very dangerous and he must come to the hospital and do something.  Talking to Terry, I also knew that he bought up this idea wholesale. But when he was talking to me, me he looked pale but was okay … could walk, talk, no pain, etc. So my advice was to take it easy. If there is no emergency, don’t fix it! Take the herbs and papaya leaf tea and see what happen in the next few weeks.  But people generally want quick fix. He went off, landed in a hospital and a week later was dead.

IS DOING NOTHING NOT BETTER THAN DOING SOMETHING? The choice is yours, it is your life.

Dissecting Chemotherapy 15: Couldn’t Afford Avastin, Gave Up Xeloda

Leo is a 51-year-old man. He was diagnosed with cancer of the rectum. But his cancer had spread to his liver. He underwent 6 cycles of chemotherapy and 25 sessions of radiotherapy. After the treatment he had a surgery to remove the tumour in his rectum. CT scan showed he was not cured, the tumour in his liver was still there. Leo was asked to undergo more chemotherapy.  He declined. He was prescribed Xeloda instead.  He took Xeloda for 3 cycles and gave it up. He turned to herbs.

Listen to what he said:

 

Why he declined the second round of chemotherapy – FOLFOX  + Avastin

Leo was asked to undergo chemotherapy using FOLFOX plus Avastin. The treatment is going to cost him RM 5,200 per cycle and he was to receive a total of 9 to 12 cycles. In total, that means spending around RM 50,000 to RM 60,000 for another round of chemo. To some patients, the response to such proposition is plain and simple. They cannot afford it! Period.

I remember Pak Jam who got his wife into a private hospital and had to spend RM 2,000 per day. After 15 days he was reduced to be a bankrupt!  He came to see us appearing like a “mad man.” His wife had leukemia. Perhaps today he still has to keep working to repay the borrowings from friends and relatives.

CPW was diagnosed with GIST and was asked to take Glivec for her condition. One tablet per day would cost RM 293.00. That is to say the family will have to fork out RM 8,790 per month for the medication. How long does she need to go on this medication? No one can tell.

HS from Indonesia came to see me. He was diagnosed with advanced kidney cancer that had spread extensively to his lungs. Since nothing much could be done, he was asked to take Sutent (sunitineb). According to his  wife, a month of Sutent would cost him 100 million rupiahs. I asked the wife, How much does an ordinary man get paid per month doing a normal job. She replied, Average earning per month in her home town (in Indonesia) is one and a half million rupiahs.

I have a lot more to say about the cost of chemo drugs nowadays. But suffice to say that the price of certain chemo drugs have gone crazy!

Why he stopped taking Xeloda after three cycles

Leo was not convinced that Xeloda would do him any good. He had fevers and diarrhea. In addition he vomit and had pains around the colostomy stoma after taking Xeloda.

Comments

I wonder what Leo would do if he has the money to pay for his FOLFOX + Avastin treatment – would he go ahead with it?

There are three important issues which patients need to bear in mind when deciding whether to undergo treatment or not.

One, don’t ever believe that money can buy your cure! Leo told us of what he saw. A man had spent more than a million ringgit trying to find a cure for his cancer. He went to Singapore for his treatment but found none. He ended up in a Johor government hospital – bed ridden and debt-ridden. He told his son that he had had enough and told his son not to go around and borrow any more money trying to cure him. One night, this frustrated man jumped out of the window of the 6th floor.  This is not the first time I hear such a story. Some time back, I received a similar e-mail from a lady in Singapore telling me that her father just jumped off the flat after failing to cure his cancer.

Two, ask these question: What is the aim of the treatment? Can this treatment cure me? Or is it just to prolong my life for a while more – if so, is it worth it? You should get these answers straight from your doctor. After getting your doctor’s answers, check them out with other experts as well.

Three, ask your doctor about the side effects of the treatment that he is going to give you. List them down. There is no argument about his – all poisonous drugs have side effects! And you know that chemo-drugs are poisonous. . So ask yourself, are you game with that? Some patients can tolerate the side effects but some patients prefer to die than go through it. Only you can decide. But at the same time, educate yourself about the side effects of these drugs.

Unfortunately some doctors are not forthcoming with such information. They would say, Oh, it is nothing. It is just like ant-bite! I remember one funny episode. A patient from India came to our center for help. She underwent chemotherapy and suffered side effects. She went to her oncologist complaining about a certain problem and was told, That is expected because of your chemo. When another problem cropped up, she was again told, That is expect because you had chemotherapy. This woman was clueless about the possible side effects of chemotherapy. Unfortunately for such patients they have to learn the hard way.

Let me end with one final question. What do you think are the benefits of Avastin?

Do you expect Avastin to cure you – after spending a good sum of your life’s saving? Read what the medical literature has got to say. Be ready for a rude shock!  Are you told of this – or do you ever ask your doctor?

The Phase III study involved 820 patients with metastatic, inoperable colorectal cancer who had been treated with standard first-line chemotherapy and Avastin. The results showed that:

In advanced colorectal cancer, continuing bevacizumab (Avastin) without interruption after tumor progression improves survival modestly.

In another report, it says – patients who received chemotherapy and Avastin did better than patients who received chemotherapy alone.

  • The patients receiving Avastin were likely to have longer tumor control and live longer than patients who did not receive Avastin. On average, they lived about five months longer (Note: this is probably a mistake found in this posting. It is not five months! Five weeks is probably the right number!).  http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=54679

In this article, Avastin prolongs life but drug is too expensive for NHS patients, says Nice, http://www.guardian.co.uk/society/2010/aug/24/avastin-too-expensive-for-patients

  • Avastin (bevacizumab) can help patients with advanced bowel cancer which has spread to other organs, usually the liver and lungs.
  • The National Institute for Health and Clinical Excellence (Nice) said it had considered the drug …, but still considered the price too high for the extra benefit it gives patients.
  • Avastin costs almost £21,000 per patient (Note: This is equivalent to RM 102,302.73).
  • Clinical data submitted by Roche to the watchdog shows it can typically offer patients an extra six weeks of life when added to the chemotherapy drugs  capecitabine and oxaliplatin.

The expected benefit (or you call that benefit at all?) is surely miserable compared to the cost that an ordinary patient in Malaysia or Indonesia has got to pay. But that is not all. What about the side effects of Avastin? Click this link, http://www.avastin.com/patient/overview/side-effects/index.html

The most serious side effects (not common, but sometimes fatal) are: gastrointestinal perforation, i.e. developing a HOLE in your stomach or intestine; wound would not heal, serious bleeding including vomiting or coughing up blood; bleeding in the stomach, brain, or spinal cord; and vaginal bleeding, stroke or heart problems, severe high blood pressure, nervous system and vision problems such as high blood pressure, headache, seizure, sluggishness, confusion, and blindness; kidney problems, etc.

The most common side effects are: nosebleeds, headache, high blood pressure, inflammation of the nose and skin, too much protein in the urine, taste change, dry skin, rectal bleeding and back pain.

Worse of all, researchers have  found that tumors treated with Avastin (also Sutent) developed more cancer stem cells, which fuel a cancer’s growth and spread and are often resistant to standard treatment. https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2013/05/14/chemotherapy-spreads-cancer-and-make-it-more-aggressive-articles-from-the-internet/

Ultimate, you need to make your own decision. Decide wisely!

When Treatments Failed: You Need Not Die Yet! Can Eat, Can Sleep and No Pain – What More Do You Want?

Leo is a 51-year-old man. He was diagnosed with cancer of the rectum. He had  chemotherapy and radiotherapy. After the treatment his rectal tumour was resected. CT scan confirmed metastasis to his liver and Leo was asked to undergo more chemotherapy. He declined. He came to us for herbs. After being on our therapy for more than a month, Leo did another CT scan. He then wrote this email below.

1 November 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

I’ve just taken my CT scan report. The latest report show that both my lungs cancer cells are under control, no further metastasis. But for liver, it had grown bigger from 0.7cm (CT Scan on 18 May 12) to 2.2 cm. Full report will be shown to you. Please advise should I continue to take the required herbs or need to change your prescription. I’ve started to take your herbs on 16 September 12. I want to continue taking your herbs as I am confident that your herbs do help me. By the way, the doctor is going to close my colostomy next month as they are arranging the surgery.  May God bless you.

Reply:  Thanks for your email. Let me suggest two things here:

a) You have done all the medical treatments and you have taken the herbs for a month.  Ask this question — does our therapy help you in any way. If it does NOT, there is no reason why you should hang on to what we ask you to do. Go and find someone else who can help you better. If it does, continue with what you are doing now. Don’t expect “magic” result.

b) If you wish to continue, I think it is wiser and more sensible to come and see me with all the reports and scans. Come and tell me what is actually happening and we shall see what else we can do to help you.

To me, writing emails and expecting the best, is not the way at all. Regards, Chris

Leo came to Penang on 8 November 2012. Below is what I told him that day.

 

The following are the gist of what I told Leo. Reflect on these points seriously if you want to be a winner.

1. Learn how to live with the cancer.

  • Cancer is not an easy disease to overcome. So far I don’t know of anybody who can assure you a cure. In this world nobody can cure cancer.
  • So we have to learn how to live with the cancer! Tell your cancer that you can stay with me but don’t disturb me. We both live together – and when I die, we die together. This is the kind of attitude I am trying to impart.
  • If you fight and fight like in a war, your body is going to suffer a lot more. The kiasu patients always want to fight and fight. If you fight may die sooner!  Tell me, where in the world – when there is a war going on, that the people don’t suffer and the country is not damaged?

2.       Yes, I am still alive and not dead yet!

  • Leo:  I was told by the doctor that I only have 6 months to live. Some months later, I met the same doctor again and she recognized me and said, “Uncle, you are still alive?” I replied, “Yes, I am still alive and not dead yet.
  • In your case, looking at the scan, you are not bad compared to others that I have seen. I have seen people with 15 cm tumour in the liver. Leo: Mine is only 2.2 cm.
  • Let me tell you of a lady with liver cancer. She went to see her doctor and was told that there would be no treatment for her. Just go home. She has only two months to live. Now she has survived more than two years without any problem. She is able to sleep well, her appetite is good and there is no pain. Life has been good all the while. What more can she ask for?  http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=29RVgT9CF1U#!

 3.       If you can eat, can sleep and have no pain – what else do you want?

  • Do not ask for more. This is the reality that I am telling you. Don’t be a kiasu wanting to get rid of the cancer because nobody can really do that.
  • You don’t have to die because of your cancer. Many people die because of other reasons. Walk by the roadside, a car comes along and bang you! You die. Take a bus, and the bus  plunge into a river and you die.

 4, Make a visit to the Chemo Treatment room in the hospital – what do you see there? Go, see and ask. Learn!

 5.       Don’t give up yet even if chemo had failed you.

  • The problem is you are being taught the wrong thing. Eat what you like, they say. And this makes the cancer come back again. Change your diet.
  • The herbs cannot cure you, but the herbs can help you and make you well.
  • In your case, don’t expect that after taking the herbs for about one and half months, the cancer is going to go away. No way – that’s absurd.
  • The herbs we give you are specific for your problems. You take Lung Tea for your lung, Liver Tea for your liver, etc. These herbs have helped many people but that does not mean that they will help you. It all depends on you – the individual. Healing takes more than just drinking herbs!

6.       The Story of My Buddy.

  • Listen to this video. https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2010/12/10/the-story-of-my-buddy-colon-liver-cancer/. He was my classmate in college.  It has been nine years now (since 2004) and he is still doing well. The reason of his success is because he takes care of himself – abide by the good diet!
  • Many people come to me expecting to get the same success but they want healing on their own terms. That’s ridiculous!
  • You need to play your part too – take care of your diet!

 7.       You Need to Face Reality.

  • If you come here expecting me to cure you – then this is the wrong place. But if you come here to learn how to live with your cancer so that you can live a bit longer, then this is the right place to come to.
  • That is the reason why I told you to come and see me and we discuss your problem.
  • If you really value your life, coming to Penang is no big deal. But if you think travelling for an hour or two is already too far then forget about it.
  • I am generous with those who are really interested to help themselves and want to know how to go about it. But if you want an easy free ride, then there is no reason for me to waste my time.
  • My final words. Your life is your responsibility. So take care of yourself.

After his trip to Penang, Leo returned home and wrote this email on 12 November 2012.

Hi Dr. Chris,
I’m back here in Johor. It has been a pleasure to meet you and gain a lot of knowledge from you. I totally agree with what you’ve said and will continue to take the herbs to overcome my cancer problems.

I’ve just received a mail from my FB friend stating that finally the US Doctors do admit that surgery, chemo and radiotherapy do great harm to cancer patients instead of “curing” them. All the work done previously by the doctors only INCREASE the spread of cancer tumors to other parts of the body and also make them more aggressive than the initial tumors. This article is written in Mandarin. They also agree that certain “herbs'” do better job. These will increase our body immune system. I will keep in touch from time to time. Thanks and best regards.

Comments

I am well aware that some may agree while others may totally disagree with what I have said. You are welcome to disagree!  The privilege is yours. Over the years I have read numerous books written by experts and my worldview of cancer and its treatment are shaped by I what I have read, together with the experiences of my patients.

Cure: Cure means total elimination of the disease and it will not recur. In medical literature no one talks about cure for cancer. They only talk about remission. According to Dr. Theodore Karrison, patients need to survive for 20 to 25 years before we can say they are cured. In other word, only time will tell if you are cured – no human being can! Prolong survival is not a cure. Being alive for FIVE years does not mean cure. The five years used by most doctors as a measure of cure is an arbitrary figure. There is no scientific basis of choosing this number.

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Rectum-Liver Cancer: No Cure, Six Months to Live. My Experience in the Cancer Ward

I received the following emails from a patient.

14 August 2012: Thanks, Dr. Chris for your info.

I’ve rectal cancer at stage 4. Have done my surgery (in Jan, 2012), 11 cycles of chemotherapy (2011) and 25 times of radiotherapy (2011). But the tumors recur and spread to both of my lungs and liver. Now the oncologist suggested to go for another 9 to 12 cycles of Avastin and 5-FU chemo. I’ve refused. Once again, thanks a lot for your unique info for cancer. I’ve learned a lot by reading from your website. Hope to see you soon. God Bless you.

This is his story. Let’s call him Leo.

Sometime in 2010 Leo had problems moving his bowels. He took laxative but this did not work. On 11 December 2010 he went for a colonoscopy in a private hospital in his hometown. The doctor found a stenosing growth in his lower rectum.  It was an adenocarcinoma.  Since Leo did not have health insurance coverage, he was asked to seek treatment in the government hospital.

A CT scan was performed on 7 January 2011 and the results showed:

  • An irregular constricting mass measuring 4.1 x 3.3 x 4.4 cm in the distal rectum.
  • A heterogenous enhancing lesion in segment 5 of liver measuring 2.2 x 2.1 cm. Complementary USG showed ill defined heterogenous solid lesion in the segment 4 and segment 7 measuring 2.4 x 1.6 cm and 0.8 x 0.8 cm respectively. Lesion in segment 5 of liver may represent liver metastasis.
  • Multiple cortical renal cysts bilaterally.

In view of the above, Leo was told by his doctor that it was a Stage 4 cancer and he has only six months to live! He was given two options:

  1. Do nothing (and wait to die).
  2. Undergo chemotherapy and radiotherapy but these may not be effective.

Leo’s life was turned upside down upon hearing this prognosis. He was in a mad rush wanting to do something but did not know exactly what to do. A week later, on 15 January 2011, he went to Kuala Lumpur for a second opinion. A CT scan was again performed.  This procedure cost him RM 1,000. The results of this repeat CT indicated:

  • A 4 cm mass in the lower rectum.
  • A 5 mm cyst is seen in the right lobe of the liver. The liver is otherwise normal.

Three days later, 18 January 2011, Leo did a PET/CT scan at another medical centre. This procedure cost him RM3,000.  The results indicated the following:

  • A FDG-avid lymph node seen in the right neck, submandibular region.
  • The lower rectum has a 4.5 cm FDG-avid focus.
  • The liver appears normal. No FDG-avid focal liver nodule.
  • No FDG-avid metastases seen.

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The adventure in Kuala Lumpur left Leo more confused. The earlier examination said he had metastatic liver cancer. But according to the PET scan there was not cancer in his liver!

Leo  was referred back to the government hospital in his hometown again.  Chemotherapy and radiotherapy were recommended but this local hospital do not provide such treatments. Leo was referred to a government hospital in Johor Baru.

Leo received a total of 6 cycles of chemotherapy – Mayo’s Regime, and 25 radiation treatments over a period of 8 months.

In early January 2012, Leo underwent a surgery to remove the tumour in his rectum. He was then fitted with a colostomy bag.

In June 2012, Leo was asked to undergo more chemotherapy, this time using FOLFOX + Avastin (see report below). He was  asked to undergo 9 to 12 cycles and each cycle would cost him RM 5,200.

Folfox-Avastin

Leo could not afford to pay for this expensive treatment.  The doctor offered him  the oral drug, Xeloda. He took Xeloda for three cycles and decided to stop it due to the following side effects:

  • High fevers.
  • Diarrhea.
  • Vomiting.
  • Pain around the colostomy bag.

Leo said he did not suffer all these side effects before taking Xeloda.

Leo decided to seek our help and was started on the CA Care Therapy in August 2012.

On 8 November 2012 Leo and his wife came to Penang for further consultation. He related his experience in the hospital’s cancer ward.

Some excerpts of our conversation.

Leo: I made a lot of friends in the hospital.

Chris: Did they ever get cured? Did they suffer?

L: (Shake head). No and most of them suffer.

C: This is the way it is. But human beings are such. They always think only  other people suffer, other people die but they never think that this can happen to them … they never die! “I am the exceptional, I want to try.” You try you suffer.

L: I stayed in the hospital for about 2 months.

C: What did you see?

L: So many people. Young and old. The youngest I saw was 6 years old.

C: Did they get better?

L: (shake head) No, all die. I stayed in a room with 4 beds, A, B, C, D. Within one night, 2 patients, C and D,  passed away. I was left with B. We both looked at each other. I also saw a patient committed suicide. He could not stand it anymore. No, cure, no money – all money spent. He went to Singapore for treatment. One million plus gone.

C: I got people who came and told me they spent about RM 600,000. So you have people who spent more than a million and still could not get the cure and eventually committed suicide.

L: I was in the hospital. He jumped down from the 6th floor. His son was sleeping by his bed in the ward. I heard him telling his son that night. “We don’t have money already. Don’t go around and borrow any more money from people. I cannot be cure already.”

Comments 

This is indeed a very sad experience. Treatment means spending money. A lot of money!  But do patients ever get cured? Do we want to leave this world with piles of debts for our children to settle? That is the way it is today with “scientifically proven” cancer treatment.

I am not going to play god with patients who come and see me. I am not going to tell them when they will die or how long they can live because this is not my job. To live or die is God’s prerogative.  Giving prognosis like “You  have 6 months to live”  is most counter-productive and damaging.

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J.D. Frank wrote, The insensitivity of scientific medicine to the bad effects of wrong emotions is probably responsible for many failures.

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I also tell everyone who come to me that I cannot guarantee that you can be cured. I don’t want to give you false hope. But if you still believe in what we do here at CA Care, then together  —  I emphasize together, we shall do our best.  Remember you are not the only one going through this “battle”. There are many others before you who have travelled the same road. They too had colorectal cancer that had spread to the liver. I am happy to say that some are doing extremely well, but some had failed miserably.  But to say to cancer patients that “You only has six months to live” is mere text book knowledge!  My experience in CA Care showed otherwise. If medical science cannot provide hope to patients, let me say that herbs and change of diet and lifestyle can! And this done at minimal cost!

Let me ask you to listen to those who have succeeded.

While ALL patients who come to see us want to be winners, unfortunately some failed miserably in their quest for recovery. I often tell patients – after talking to you for a few minutes or reading your emails, I could probably “sense” if you can make it or not.  Unfortunately some people are not “cut” or made to be winners. I always say, kiasus don’t win! Here are three examples.

  • Mr. Nut came to seek our help after surgery and chemotherapy could not cure him. His CEA due to colon-liver cancer was on the rise. Used to being a “king” in his “rubber-estate-kingdom” he proved to be too smart, too educated and too demanding for us to handle. He tried taking herbs for some weeks but these did not help him.

If there was one thing I ever remember clearly about this man was what he said when he first came to see me. He repeatedly said, I am a friend of your good friend. There is nothing wrong with this remark, except  to   remember that in CA Care, we play no politics! You don’t need to “pull strings” to get our best attention. Everyone who comes to us are treated equally.

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2010/12/10/no-healing-for-those-who-acted-too-smart-too-educated-and-too-demanding/

  • There was an interesting man from Indonesia. He came to seek our help after doctors in Singapore and China gave up on him. He had liver cancer. He had no option left but to take our herbs but he would not keep to our recommended diet. His son said, “My father did take the herb from CA Care regularly, until he went in coma a few weeks before he passed away.” With the herbs he survived almost one year and half years. But he would eat anything he liked because he said after his death he did not want to end up being a hungry ghost. https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/12/24/liver-cancer-better-to-become-a-full-stomach-ghost-than-a-hungry-ghost/
  • VIP was a well known man in society. He had colon-liver cancer. He took herbs, refusing to undergo any medical treatment. He was well for more than 6 months. Since he enjoyed eating, it was hard for him to keep up to our recommended diet. In a party he attended, VIP took “the forbidden food” and his stomach was bloated soon afterwards. He was miserable for some weeks before he died.

My message to all cancer patients, You have a choice! It is up to you to decide.

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