Thirteen years later, doing just fine!
YS is a 50-year-old lady. She had many lumps in both breasts.
Although most of these lumps appear to be benign, there is one lump that does not look good. This one is found at 12-1 o’clock of the right breast and measures 13x9x12 mm in size. A biopsy indicated an invasive ductal carcinoma.
In addition,. CT showed a 7.4 x 5.7 cm nodule in her liver and multiple uterine fibroids. The liver nodule could just be a haemangioma.
I suggested that YS consult a breast specialist. YS must have the malignant lump removed — either by lumpectomy or mastectomy. I told YS: Taking herbs will not make the cancerous lump go away!
YS agreed to my suggestion. A few weeks later she came back with her medical report which stated the following:
The above shows that this is an early stage cancer. However, after her lumpectomy, YS was asked to see an oncologist for possible follow up treatments.
YS spent almost an hour with a caring oncologist. The consultation cost RM 180.
The oncologist suggested that YS undergo the following treatments:
According to the oncologist the chance of obtaining a cure is 90 percent.
YS refused to go for these treatments and opted for our CA Care Therapy instead.
As usual, I asked YS why she did not want to go for chemo. YS explained that her grandmother died of cancer when she was small. Her father also died of lung cancer. He had all the medical treatments at the cancer hospital. So she knows what chemo is like.
Chris: So you have already made up your mind NOT to go for chemo even before you come and see me?
C: What does your husband say? Is he not unhappy that you don’t want to go for further medical treatment?
YS: He learned about CA Care from someone, so he was the one who asked me to come and see you.
Cookbook medicine is defined as the practice of medicine by strict adherence to practice guidelines, which may not be an appropriate substitute for clinical judgment.
Try to google, “cookbook medicine” and see what you can find. The first entry of my search is this:
Cookbook Medicine Is a Recipe for Disaster … An astonishing new article from JAMA Internal Medicine reveals that at least 150,000 people per year may be needlessly killed, rendered disabled, or otherwise harmed due to misdiagnoses in doctors’ offices.
Is that not scary — 150,000 people per year needlessly killed, rendered disabled or harmed by doctors? I thought you go to the doctor to get well not to be killed or harmed.
The truth is, according to an oncologist, Dr. James Forsythe, it is okay to be killed or harmed by chemotherapy as long as the standard protocol is adhered to.
I wonder how many patients know the “rule of the game” before they undergo their cancer treatment?
Let us look at the case of YS again.
While chemo cost a “bomb”. It also comes with severe side effects. Generally oncologists down play these side effects, brushing it off as “it is like ant bite.”
Take note, each Herceptin injection is not cheap and comes with severe side effects as well. Not known to most patients,
Herceptin can damage the heart and its ability to pump blood effectively. This risk has ranged between 5% to 30%. The damage can be mild and result in either no symptoms or signs of mild heart failure, like shortness of breath.
Why do you need to take Tamoxifen? The doctor says, it is to prevent recurrence. But I have patients who suffered recurrence even while taking Tamoxifen.
Having outlined all the necessary treatments, has the oncologist forgotten that YS also has multiple fibroids besides a big nodule in her liver? Perhaps doctors think these are harmful, but to me they carry a message that something is not right or normal. Yes, at CA Care we do have herbs to take care of such problems.
Over the years, I have breast cancer patients coming to our centre seeking help after medical treatments have failed them.
Read more here:
Let me say loud and clear that you cannot blame this “caring” oncologist for proposing the above protocol. He is just following the SOP. He wants YS to get well. And the only way he knows how to make her well is to do what he had learned in medical school. He even said that by undergoing the full course of the suggested protocol, YS has a 90 percent chance of cure!
Do you ever wonder, why there is only a 90 percent chance of cure? Patients want 100 percent chance, right? So in this case, even if YS were to undergo all the suggested treatments she still has a 10 percent chance of failure or may even be killed along the way. Yes, Dr. Forsythe did warn us: …oncologist’s main hope is that the chemotherapy will kill the cancer before it kills the patient.
Read also what Dr. John Lee wrote in his book,
If the above are depressing to you, there is an article in the New York Times that may make your day a bit brighter —
Good News for Women With Breast Cancer: Many Don’t Need Chemo https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/03/health/breast-cancer-chemo.html
In NIH Director’s Blog https://directorsblog.nih.gov/2018/06/12/most-women-with-early-stage-breast-cancer-dont-need-chemo/, Dr. Fancis Collins wrote, Most women with early-stage breast cancer don’t need chemo!
Indeed the world of cancer treatment is not straight forward. For sure it is not as easy like sitting in front of an oncologist and within minutes you get his/her recipe for your survival. It is much more complex, puzzling and confusing. Ponder seriously the words of these two outstanding breast specialists. Perhaps you can learn something from what they said. Or do you prefer to follow the advice of your oncologist since he “knows best”?
GT is a 35-year-old single lady from China. About a year ago (in July 2018) she felt a lump in her left breast. She was asked to do a biopsy and probably followed by an operation. She refused.
GT works as a sales assistant in a health food company. She sells health drinks that are said to boost the immune system. Her boss gave her these “health foods” and she took these for about three months. No, the lump in her breast did not shrink.
GT then turned to TCM – Traditional Chinese Medicine. She consulted a TCM doctor in the hospital.
Chris: The TCM doctor did not ask you to operate and remove the lump in your breast?
Translator: The doctor said, “don’t cut.”
C: Did the TCM doctor say he can cure you?
Translator: Yes. This doctor is quite famous.
C: No, he did not know and he gave wrong advice!
GT was on TCM medications for almost a year. And these did not work for her either.
GT went back to the TCM hospital again. She did a CT scan. The lump in her breast had grown bigger, to 3.8 x 1.8 cm. The cancer had spread to her lungs and bone. Unfortunately, GT did not bring along her CT scan so I am not able to see the extent of her metastasis.
C: What did the doctor say after the CT scan?
T: She was referred to other “bigger” hospital for treatment. But instead of going to the hospital she decided to fly to see you in Penang.
GT presented with breathlessness and severe coughs which make it difficult for her to sleep at night. Otherwise, she looked fine. The lump in the breast is hard and intact, not lacerated.
WHAT DO YOU EXPECT ME TO DO for you?
I felt very sad after hearing her story. I was also upset. She was not given the “right” advice. Now her condition had deteriorated with such an “extensive” metastasis. I am afraid her recovery or survival is very slim. And this poor lady flew all the way from China to see me. What can I do? What did she expect me to do for her? That was exactly the question I asked her that morning.
GT’s reply was rather modest. She wanted me to help her with her coughs. I was glad that she did not ask me to cure her! No, I cannot cure her cancer! To help her, may be but not cure.
I spent time talking to GT trying to find out what could be the underlying problems that could have contributed to her breast cancer.
My advice to her that morning:
Not too long ago, I read two news reports about cancer treatment in China that make me feel real sad.
There is a movie, Dying to Survive, which has become a billion-yuan-success after being released in July this year. It is based on a real-life story of Lu Yong, a Chinese textile trader and leukemia patient. He imported less expensive generic drug from India and sold it to his fellow Chinese patients. Lu helped thousands of Chinese patients. Sadly, he was arrested and jailed in 2014 for doing such “illegal” activity.
This movie, Dying to Survive tells the same story in a more dramatic way. It featured an owner of an Indian Miracle Oil Store — Cheng Yong — who found out that the Indian-made generic leukemia drug, Gleevec, was sold at only 500 yuan in India. In China the authentic Gleevec is sold at 40,000 yuan, eighty times more expensive.
Lured by great profit, Cheng smuggled the unlicensed drug to China and sold to Chinese patients at 2,000 yuan. He made good profit and he was also regarded as a hero by many cancer patients who can’t afford the original version of the expensive Gleevec. Looks like he is a real modern day Robin Hood.
Cheng became rich. He then decided to stop the drug smuggling business. He opened a garment factory. However a large number of patients became desperate as they were forced to sell their houses or everything they have to pay for the expensive Gleevec. That prompted Cheng to change his heart, and renew his smuggling business. This time he even sold the drug only at just 500 yuan to save lives. Unfortunately, he was arrested and jailed for five years.
Note: Gleevec is developed by Novartis. In the US patients need to pay up to US$100,000 for the drug a year without government or insurance subsidy.
I got hit by another heart-breaking story. Tang is a 26-year-old doctor in Central China. He was diagnosed with oesophageal cancer, three years after graduating and starting to work. He underwent surgery to remove the tumour but declined further medical treatment.
In China, doctors like Tang, earn an average of 63,000 to 77,000 yuan (US$ 10,000 to 12,200) per year. Tang just could not afford to pay for the expensive, follow up medical treatments.
On day, Tang decided to mysteriously disappear from home. He left behind his bank cards and a letter to his parents saying they would end up having to “spend all your savings and even run into debt just for dragging out my miserable existence for a few years at best. If I let you face the financial burdens and the sorrow of losing a child in your late years, it would be a sin for which I should die a thousand times. I also don’t want to live like a near dead person for the rest of my life. So please forgive me … I’m an unworthy son, and I will pay back your love in my next life.”
After the above two stories, here I was sitting in front of a 35-year-old lady from China who has breast cancer. I felt sad and frustrated. And this propels me to write this article.
What can we learn from these three stories?
Second, cancer treatment is expensive.
Third, the side effects of treatments are severe and “killing.” Is it worth it?
I think there is NO reason to. Why can’t the Chinese develop a much cheaper method of healing cancer? Why is there a need to depend on the expensive medical drugs imported from the US or elsewhere? I believe China can come up with a novel healing method of treating cancer if the Chinese doctors, researchers and entrepreneurs are not obsessed with following what the Western world is doing. Don’t follow others, develop your own way!
To the old Chinese, Indian and those who live in east, we are brought up to understand this culture very well. Unfortunately, the younger generations who come after us have failed to learn that heritage. We live like there is no tomorrow and eat “bad, branded food” introduced by the Western world — as a result metabolic diseases like diabetes, heart problem and cancer are on the rise.
Here are a few examples of our work:
If I can do this in Malaysia, why can’t the Chinese do the same in China. After all, my approach to managing cancer is based on the wisdom of the old Chinese healing masters. I started with a blank mind. Then I started to read and read and read about TCM. I used my “scientific mind” to select what are useful and leave out what I thought are dubious. In other words, I develop my own method. I don’t blindly follow the “standard procedures.”
If Jack Ma can make Alibaba into such a great success story, I am sure there are many others like him who can also do the same with cancer. I think the real problem is to apply the right knowledge. This unfortunately is not easy — yes, there are many doctors, sinseh and researchers in China but are they really THINKERS and INNOVATORS who know how to apply their knowledge correctly? Or are they just following “cookbook” protocols when practising their trade?
One last word about working with cancer. Cancer treatment of today is more about making money and much less about making the patients well. This is what the “Cancer Establishment” of the developed countries is all about. So beware.
Frances M. Visco, the president of the National Breast Cancer Coalition wrote:
This is my basic principle I uphold right from the very beginning when I founded CA Care — to succeed we need dedication and compassion. If we go in there just for money — and only money — we would fail miserably. I am afraid in the Western world, cancer is indeed about money and making more money… that is why it fails so badly.
Let us not forget what the Great Chinese Sage and Physician, Sun Simiao said,
I believe there are enough “kind and generous souls” in China or in this part of the world who want to help their fellow citizens in need. Approach cancer treatment as a noble mission to help others in need.
Some random quick facts about cancer problem in China
Happy and blessed 100th birthday Oma !
Madam Anjalai Singaram was born on 8th July 1918, the 5th of 6 children. All her siblings are since deceased. Widowed in 1993 , she had 5 children, of whom 3 have passed away. Born and bred in her beloved Penang, she continued to live alone in her house on Dato Kramat Road following the death of her husband. She managed all household chores herself. For her 4 monthly visits to GH Penang for medical reviews and medication supply , she relied on her grandchildren and family members in Penang. Her razor sharp mind kept track of her scheduled hospital appointments and her daily medication which she diligently sorted out and apportioned as per her scheduled intake. She had her own exercise routine which she did diligently every day . Belying her age , this included squats.
One evening in early 2014, she experienced an accidental fall at home whilst she was alone. Her helplessness during that incident and the need to be hospitalized for observation with a nasty bump on her head triggered an alarm amongst family members. A decision was made to bring her to Kuala Lumpur to live with and be cared for by her daughter, LalithaDoraisingam’s family. Knowing that she would resist a move away from her home in Penang , the move to KL was done almost surreptitiously, with the promise of it being just a short recuperative trip.
When it dawned on her that this was most likely a permanent move as her constant requests to return to Penang were denied, a tumultuous period of frustration and resentment followed. A few months later, she discovered a lump in her left breast.
In August 2014, at the age of 96, she was diagnosed to have Breast Cancer. She underwent surgery (Left breast mastectomy with left axillary clearance) on 28th August 2014. Histopatholgy confirmed an invasive ductal carcinoma Grade 3 with metastasis to the axillary lymph nodes. A collective decision was taken that no adjuvant or additional modalities of treatment would be considered. Belying her age yet again, her post operative recovery was superb and she was discharged home in 3 days.
Having had previous experience with CA Care on a different occasion, we paid a visit to consult with Ms.Khadijah and Mr.Yeong at their Centre in Subang Jaya. As the intention was on maintaining a good quality of life, the focus was to obtain a more acceptable, holistic, herbal based managementprotocol . This August will mark 4 years since the diagnosis and she continues to consume the herbal preparations from CA Care.
By the Almighty’s Grace, Madam Anjalai recently celebrated her 100th birthday on 8th July 2018 with family members and relatives at a Restaurant in Kuala Lumpur. A short interview with her was in fact carried live over the Bernama Tamil News Channel that night.
Today, she remains ambulant, maintains some exercise routines and still enjoys a healthy appetite. Age has taken a toll partly on her clarity of vision and hearing, but her mind and memory remain as clear as ever .
May she be blessed with happiness, peace and good health in her remaining years as her journey has been a life lived well indeed.
This story is written by her grandnephew. Thanks for taking time to share this story with us. All of us at CA Care are real happy to know that oma is doing well. May she lives many more years beyond the present hundred! God bless.
Take time to reflect — if you have a loved one who is 90 plus and she/he has cancer, would you take the same healing path and forgo the established medical treatments?
This morning, 8 March 2018, is indeed a “rotten” morning. Why? Two patients came, one after another, with a rotten breast. It was so sad. Why do women allow such thing to happen to them?
After that a young lady came on behalf of her sister who had breast cancer. She had undergone all medical treatments — surgery, chemo and radiation. Less than three years later, the cancer spread to her liver. She was admitted into a hospital to drain off fluid from her abdomen. The oncologist asked her to do chemotherapy right away. The family hesitated and wanted us to help her.
I told the sister, I am afraid I cannot help her. She is in the hospital under the care of an oncologist. How could I interfere? Also, I have no magic cure. The sister broke down and cried, pleading that her sister’s children are still small. Sad. But this is the reality. Such thing happen very often — I have seen enough of them.
Learning about three disasters in one morning is about the limit! No more please!
The fourth breast cancer case this morning is about a 69-year-old lady who had a mastectomy. After the surgery, the doctor referred her to an oncologist for follow-up chemotherapy. The family refused the treatment. On the next follow-up with the doctor, the daughter asked the doctor to suggest an alternative therapy. Apparently this doctor understood the predicament the family was in. He sent the family to see CA Care! (such a thing rarely happens! Unique! More on this in later posting).
Now, let us talk about rotten breasts and how some naive women end up with it.
Ibu A is 69 years old. She found a lump above her breast about three years ago. She did nothing about it. The lump grew bigger. In early 2018, she went to a doctor and did a biopsy. It was cancerous. The doctor suggested an operation but Ibu A refused. She came and seek our advice.
This was my advice to her that morning.
Ibu B is 51 years old. About two years ago she felt a big lump in her breast. She does not know when this lump came about. After the discovery of the lump, she refused to seek medical help. Instead, she went to an acupunturist-cum-herbalist. She was prescribed herbs and she had been taking the herbs until a wound developed in her breast like below.
She was adamant of not wanting to see any doctor and came to seek our help. (Note: I came to know later that her sister is actually a medical doctor who also has breast cancer in both breasts. The medical doctor sister is now undergoing chemotherapy. But Ibu B chooses not to follow her sister’s path).
This was my advice to her that morning.
Both these ladies came to seek our help, hoping that we can cure their already rotten, cancerous breast. No, we cannot cure.
To both of them (and also those ladies out there, harbouring the same attitude) I have this advice:
I am aware that research has shown that a lumpectomy is just as effective as a mastectomy. But, that is when the doctor removes the lump cleanly — what if the doctor leaves some cancerous tissues behind?
Don’t ever believe that herbs, taking supplements, etc., etc. can make the cancerous lump go away. You will be taking a great risk. My twenty-over-years of experience tells me that herbs may make non-cancerous lump or cyst in the breast go away but not cancerous lump.
After the surgery, Ibu A can come back to see us again for help. This is because she and her family would not want further treatments like chemo or radiation.
On the other hand, if Ibu A is asked to undergo chemotherapy before the surgery, this is another tricky matter. In fact Ibu requested that I prescribe her herbs instead asking her to see a surgeon. I told her that I would give her the herbs if the surgeon does not want to operate on her or ask her to do chemo first.
But for Ibu B. The situation is different. She is still young. She must get the rotten mass removed first before starting on the herbs.
One morning, a couple flew in from Kuala Lumpur specifically to seek our advice. He is a Datuk, and following the norm, his wife is referred to as Datin. But for this story, let us call her Ms B.
Listen to what Ms B and her husband told us this morning:
In an earlier posting I wrote about Ms A — whether she should take tamoxifen after her lumpectomy. As a follow up, this story about Ms B is whether she should go for radiotherapy after her breast surgery. First, put these two stories side by side, what can we learn from these two stories?
On the other hand, Ms B’s husband was solidly behind his wife’s desire to find another alternative to the recommended radiotherapy.
No, the subject of radiation being “scientifically proven” never cropped up at all. The couple came with a certain degree of belief in whatever they are seeking from us. What they needed is the extra “confidence” to go forward.
As a result, they wanted to give our therapy a try. On the contrary, I sent Ms A home without any herbs!
Okay, what is my answer to their question: Should I go for radiotherapy as recommended by my breast surgeon (the same surgeon that operated on Ms A).
Besides coming to talk to us, I suggest that you read what is written in the internet. Here are some examples.
Forum Topic: Long Term Radiation Side Effects 10+ years After? https://community.breastcancer.org/forum/70/topics/816658
Barbarella 60 wrote:
I am new to this forum and I am looking for others and help in what I am now experiencing. I had left breast Stage 1, ductal in situ, 1cm in size about 18 years ago. I had a lumpectomy … 3 treatments of chemo consisting of Adriamycin, Cytoxin, and 5 fu, followed by 7 weeks radiation, then 3 more treatments of chemo.
I was given extra doses of radiation because of a hospital confusion. I also had 5 years of tamoxifen. Do you think overkill?
Now 18 years later I am experiencing severe left breast fibrosis with major dimpling at the lumpectomy incision site, hardening and swelling of the breast. I thought my cancer had returned but negative.
Also having stabbing left chest pains occurring occasionally.
Now 2 years after the onset of the fibrosis I am having shortness and trouble breathing, dizziness, tired with no absolutely no energy. I had all heart tests including cardiac catheterization angioplasty. All negative.
I am grateful for my life, but all the side effects from the chemo & radiation have had a significant effect on my health.
Has anyone experienced side effects becoming major health issues years after the treatment? I don’t know where to go, since no one seems to know about this.
I was diagnosed w/ right side, stage 1 ductal in situ 3 cm, estrogen positive, breast cancer, with no lymph nodes involved, on Dec 27, 2004, had lumpectomy 17 days later on Jan 13, 2005, followed by 12 weeks of radiation.
I’m here over 7 yrs later, w/ no reoccurrence, yet still suffer greatly from underarm & chest wall/muscle/rib pain, with swelling! Hurts to raise my arm above my head, or to wash the back of my hair, or to stretch in any fashion? I’m told it is probably costochrondritis … began almost immediately with the start of the rad treatments.
… Please, Please, Please, – anyone who is newly diagnosed, in early stage, take the time to do the research, read personal experiences and not just what the radiologist/oncologist is telling or not telling you, I sometimes wonder if it was a $ issue not to bring up other types of rad treatment since the final bill to my insurance co. For just the rad treatments was close to $79,000 – YOU have to live with the side effects, they don’t! Happy to be here, but would like a little less pain.
… You are right. They need to give you truthful, information on the treatments and the side effects. Back 18 years ago lumpectomy & radiation. I remember not having a second thought in having radiation. Now my armpit is swollen, pain & fibrosis in left breast and possible heart & lung damage. If I had it all to do over again I would have a double mastectomy. No radiation. But what’s done is done. Gotta go on from here, no redo. They know a lot more information today than then. But our decisions should be discussed by independent parties with no financial involvement.
I had a lumpectomy followed by 31 rad treatments that ended Jan10, I am really sore over my whole breast, thought about calling the doctor, but not sure what he could do anyway. He wasn’t very helpful when I was going through treatment. They sure don’t inform us very well about the effect that the radiation will have on us. I think it it’s all about the money. Every time I would ask about a certain problem They would tell me the only side effects were just fatigue.[bs] and that could last for awhile after rads were over. I seem to be getting sorer by the day, I hate to think that this could go on for years..
I do remember how tight and red and burning it was for a while afterwards. I think it took quite a while for my skin to feel like it wasn’t going to rip. I know but that is how tight it was. I was very diligent in using all the cremes they recommended. I also had 3 months (9 weeks), 5 days a week, of radiation. Then immediately after radiation I started the 2nd series of 3 treatments for 7 weeks of chemo. After that 5 years of tamoxifen.
Believe it or not, my whole arm pit and back towards my shoulder blade is still numb. If I have an itch I have to use a wooden back scratchier and just scratch as hard as possible to feel it. It is very uncomfortable having an itch that can’t be satisfied! Just one of the sides I’ve had for 18 years.
I am new to this nightmare. I had a lumpectomy on January 8, 2014 for ILC Stage 1 and sentinel lobe removal. I had a long consultation with the radiation oncologist and did not leave feeling convinced about radiation treatment. I am considering skipping radiation and just doing the Tamoxifen even though I am not crazy about that either.
I have read every piece of research I can on radiation and its a damned if you do and damned if you don’t situation.
I also would like to hear from survivors who can share the pros and cons of radiation in their choice and life to this point. The decisions we must face on this journey are overwhelming . Please share your thoughts. Thank you
I am a bit further along than you are but can only share your sentiments and not really shed much light. I have read lots of medical articles going back years and consulted 3 rad oncs and it seems clear there is no consistent “prescription” even for same person…. different docs give different opinions depending on where they trained so a lot of it is culture and custom not hard science about what is minimum effective dose.
That means making decisions with blinders on.
What is worse…. RO may be ( mine is) defensive and irritated when you quote a literature info of concern to you and insist that you” trust” their experience……even though they disagree among themselves and may contradict the literature.
It’s primitive and makes me mad because women deserve better science to reduce the suffering that accompanies these treatments!
Here are what researchers and doctors said about radiation for cancer!
The year 2018 started with a common but peculiar phenomenon which we long know. What is that? For the past two months, most of the patients who came to seek our help either had breast cancer or liver cancer! Later we will see this trend changes to some other cancers.
Breast cancer patients who came fall either one of these two groups.
Let me share some stories. By doing this, I hope you can learn from the experiences of others. In life we don’t need or don’t have time to repeat the mistakes that others before us go through. So, be wise.
This is the story of Ms A.
About 20 years ago Ms A had a 5 mm lump in her breast. A biopsy was done and the result turned out to be negative. Unfortunately the so-called non-cancerous lump was not removed.
Fast forward to January 2018, Ms A felt the lump which she was keeping in her breast was not “normal” in size. She went to consult a surgeon who did a lumpectomy (removal of the lump only). Some of the lymph nodes were removed and were found to be “clean”.
Unfortunately, the tumour was malignant and was positive for hormone receptors. Because of that the doctor wanted Ms A to take tamoxifen for 5 to 10 years.
Ms A was referred to an oncologist. She told the oncologist that she preferred to take herbs instead of tamoxifen. The oncologist replied, It is up to you to decide.
Ms A was unsure which path to take. She wrote me an email. Since she was coming home to Penang for the Chinese New Year, she wanted to drop by our centre to ask for advice. Okay, that was fine with me.
Ms A and her husband came. They wanted to know my view on tamoxifen. Listen to our conversation that morning.
What do I do now? Follow what my breast surgeon asked me to do or follow my heart?
I am afraid I cannot give an outright answer. You have to make your own decision and you bear the consequences of that decision. If the cancer comes back again or your suffer the side effects of the treatment, it is you who have to suffer, not others.
But to help you get out of this dilemma I suggest you do the following.
But more important is your husband. If you cannot get your husband on your side — to give you a hundred percent support — then, your “battle” is lost even before going to the battle field!
Accordingly to Ms A’s husband, tamoxifen is scientifically proven and herbs are just supplement. If this is what it is, my advice is don’t ever think of taking herbs! Go for the “scientific” stuff.
But the problem with most people is they don’t like to read — they don’t want to learn the truth for themselves. They prefer to just listen to way others say and do what others tell them to do. That is, to led by the nose.
Of course, there are others who believe they are already smart and they don’t need to know more, especially if it is not seen to be “scientific” (whatever that means!).
Well, I understand. Each of us has our own ideas about the Divine. For me, I know that there is a God who is loving enough to help you — to help and guide if you sincerely ask for His help — the way that this same God helps me in my work with cancer patients for the past twenty over years.
With these three suggestions I told Ms A to go home, without prescribing her any herbs. If you need my help in the future, you can come back and see me again.
Let me remind everyone who wants to come and see us. Our therapy is not easy to follow. If you are not fully committed or are half-hearted in your belief, my advice is to go and see someone else for help.
For those who believe that tamoxifen is “scientifically proven” and herbs are hocus pocus, you may wish take a pause and read a bit more.
Posted by Lizzy4u, 19 October 2017
I’ve been on Tamoxifen for 10 months and have awful side effects. The worst being joint pains, so bad that I can hardly move at times. My oncologist said to stop the Tamoxifen for 6 weeks and see if there is a difference… I am stiff when I wake up, then once I get moving it eases off but then if I’ve been on my feet longer than an hour it get worse and worse. My daughter said to me the other day she has not seen a day go past that she’s not seen me limping. I’m also experiencing the most awful hot flushes that I get no sleep and I’m exhausted all the time, have itching when I have these flushes. Etc
Posted by LondonLass, 19 October 2017
Hi Lizzy4u, I had exactly the same issues as you. I lasted 20 months but that was only because my oncologist kept pushing me to keep going, his view was the first 2 years were the most important. I won’t go into what happened with me as it doesn’t help you. I will however say there are other options!
However, I think you have to bear in mind that all of these treatments will cause menopausal symptoms and of course it’s worse for us as we are being forced into menopause! …. Worth discussing everything with your oncologist, the more information you can get the better. You need to be able to make an informed decision. At the end of the day it’s your body, your life and your decision! I know how it feels to feel so old and unhappy!
3. If you think alternative healers are just quacks, read what some researchers and doctors have got to say about tamoxifen.
Pierre Blais, a well known drug researcher, said: Tamoxifen is a garbage drug that made it to the top of the scrap heap.
And here are more for you to digest ….
Two weeks ago, I posted the story of Rose, a 49-year-old Indonesian lady who had a big lump in her breast. She underwent surgery twice because the lump kept recurring. Then the non-cancerous massed turned cancerous. It spread to her lungs.
Rose was told to go for chemotherapy. She refused and came to seek out help.
Two weeks on our therapy, Rose got better. Listen to what her husband told us.
1. The swelling of her hands and feet subsided.
2. She can now stand up without difficulty and can walk around the house compound. This is something that she could not do earlier. Also before the herbs, she would feel breathless and sweat a lot even with a little bit of movement. All these are gone!
3. Her appetite has improved.
4. Her cough with itchy throat was gone.
5. Her sleep has improved.
Improvement does not mean cure!
I cautioned Rose’s husband that improvement does not mean cure. The family must always be careful — try to maintain this healing momentum so that more healing can go on without any disruption. Take care of the diet and do not eat anything you like even if you feel great.
My experience over the years tell me that most patients take things for granted after feeling better. Let me relate two stories which are still fresh in my mind that make me real “sick” — to be more precise, they break my “heart” !
A lady came after 10 chemos and 2 surgeries did not help her. Her oncologist told her that she would be lucky if she could live to celebrate Christmas (i.e. just a few months). She wrote me an email asking for help. I told her I would not be able to help her since she is from a faraway country. She insisted on coming to see us. Okay, come!
After four days on the e-therapy and herbs her pains were gone. She could go shopping the whole day. Before the therapy she could not even sit down without pain, let alone shopping!
She returned to her country and continued taking the herbs. Her condition improved. In December I reminded her to go and wish her oncologist “Merry Christmas” — after all she was NOT supposed to live that long anyway!
Then I sensed something was not right when she wrote to complain that she preferred taking the herbal extract instead of herbs that have to be brewed. I ignored her request. In the next mail, she wrote to say that she only wanted to take the capsules. She did not want the herbal teas anymore, giving the excuse that she could not afford to pay for the herbal tea — capsule okay! My reply: Please go and find someone else to help you. You can stop taking my herbs.
Not long after this “blow”, another lady came to seek our help. According to her husband, he found CA Care while browsing the internet trying to find a “cancer home” for his wife since no one is at home to take care of her. She was in severe pain and was not even able to sit down to talk to me without much discomfort. We put her on the e-therapy. Within a few days her pains were almost gone and she could sit down and talked like a healthy person. The e-therapy was discontinued since it was Saturday and Sunday. On Monday, she had pains again and we continued with the e-therapy. I think she got better.
On Tuesday she did not turn up saying that she had diarrhoea (healing crisis?). On Wednesday her husband came to take her file away. I did not even have a chance to meet him and know what has gone wrong. Anyway, the e-therapy that she did at our centre was free of charge!
In Rose’s case, it is wonderful to know that she has improved after just two weeks on herbs. But please don’t take for granted that we have a “magic portion” to cure her. Healing is your responsibility. We can help you but you must “work and earn ” for your well being. More important, don’t demand healing on your own terms! Please learn to be grateful for all the blessings that you receive. Don’t take your healing for granted!
Rose is a 49-year-old Indonesian lady. About five years ago she had a swelling in her left breast. She came to a private hospital in Penang and have the lump removed. No further treatment was deemed necessary. The doctor probably thought it was just a fibroadenoma (a common non-cancerous breast lump).
Two years after the surgery, in 2016, the lump grew into a giant fibroadenoma and Rose underwent a mastectomy. Her whole left breast was removed. After surgery in Penang, she was sent home with no further treatment.
In early 2018, Rose started to cough and both her arms and legs are swollen. The lump in her breast grew back again. Rose came back to the same hospital and did a “health screening” test and paid RM 500 for a complied booklet about her health.
Her X-ray report said, “Lung metastasis from ? left breast carcinoma.”
Rose was referred to an oncologist of the hospital. She was told to undergo six cycles of chemotherapy.
Chris: Did you ask the doctor if chemotherapy is going to cure you?
Husband: We never ask.
Rose paid RM 160.00 for this consultation and was given a bottle of cough mixture to bring home!
What can we learn from this pathetic case?
Rose found a lump in her breast. She had it removed. Hooray, it was not cancer — that is what everyone likes to hear. Then the lump grew back again — Rose went back to the same doctor and did a mastectomy. Did she ever ask any question — why this and why that? Probably not. The lump did not go away, as it grew bigger, Rose did not bother to consult another doctor — why did she allow the lump to grow so big like in the picture? Because it did not cause any pain, she said! When she started to cough and felt breathless, only then she decided to see the doctor again. She came back to the same hospital to do a “health screening” test. Is that the correct thing to do?
Remember, not all doctors are the same — in terms of experience, expertise and their empathy towards patients. As I was writing this story, one patient came. He said, The doctor told me there was about 5 liter of fluid in my lung. He tapped out 1 litre. I asked him why he did not remove the remaining 4 litre. He did not answer me. He was arrogant. What do you think of such doctors? Let him treat you again?
Is this not what happened to Rose? Cut and cut, but was there any advice as to what to do to prevent or minimize the recurrence of the lump? No — just go home, do and eat what you like! Probably it is just your luck? If more problems crop up come back to us again and we cut you again or chemo you!
A taxi driver at the airport recommended that Rose come and consult us. When Rose came to see us, I thought it was a bit too late. Her health had deteriorated badly. I would try to help the best I can but I know I cannot make the big lump go away. I think it is not the lump that is going to kill her — it is the extensive lung metastasis.
2 Jun 2017
Dear Dr. Teo,
My name is Carl (name changed) and I come from Singapore. I am requesting for an appointment for my Mother, who has stage 4 metastatic breast cancer.
My Mother is a Chinese national, and she was initially diagnosed with Stage 2 Breast Cancer in February 2016. She underwent numerous rounds of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and even a surgery to cut off her breast. However, the metastatic breast cancer eventually spread to both her lungs and liver this year. In fact, her condition is getting worse despite undergoing chemotherapy.
On her end, she exercises (walk, jog, stretching exercises) everyday for at least 45 minutes each day. Moreover, she watches her diet. No sweet sugary food, significantly more green and fruits. No meat and only fish as a animal based protein source. She also juices and drink daily a blend of Green apple, Beetroot and Carrots. Furthermore, she also blends asparagus and eat them very frequently. Recently, she has also began drinking Turmeric tea.
Dr Teo, would you please help my mother in her quest of overcoming cancer? I assure you that she still has a lot of will and determination to live. Please mail to me an appropriate date and time that you would be open for consultation.
Thank you so much for your time reading this mail! I hope to receive a reply soon. Have a great day ahead!
Reply: We are open Monday to Friday at about 11 am …. but let me know first your proposed date before to buy your tickets … to make sure I am in Penang.
Dear Dr. Teo,
Thank you for the information! May I know roughly how much the herbs would cost? Because, we have spent quite a bit on chemo, surgery and other things. Therefore, it would be good to know the approximate cost of the herbs so that we can better plan our finances and budgets. Thank you for your assistance! Really appreciate it a lot.
Reply: Read this …https://cacare.org/ — everything explained about the herbs, etc. Consultation is free … unlike in Singapore where patients may have to pay thousands of dollars for their herbs.
Dear Dr. Teo,
I have contacted you a few months back regarding my mother, a stage 4 breast cancer patient. Would it be possible if we fly over to consult you next week? Between 4th to 11th December. My mother is a Chinese national suffering from stage 4 cancer with both metastasize in the lungs and liver.
Thank you so much. Warmest regards.
One morning in December 2017
At long last, I got to meet Carl after 6 months! There are 4 in his family, mom and dad, daughter and son and Carl is the elder of the 2 siblings. He is 20 years old. This morning, he came alone without his mother. The medical reports are not complete and there are no CT or PET scan.
This is a the story of his mother… a Stage 2 breast cancer turned Stage 4 after extensive chemo treatments for a year. What has gone wrong?
a) Initially, the drugs used were: Gemcitabine and Herceptin.
b) In June the combination changed to: Pertuzumab (Perjeta), Gemcitabine and Herceptin.
c) In September the oncologist tried Trastuzumab (Kadcyla) and Herceptin.
CT scan report, 28 July 2017 indicated:
a) No evidence of local recurrence.
b) Extensive bilateral lung metastasis.
c) Ill-defined hypodensity in segment 7, measuring 1.0 cm. Other subcentimetre hypodensities in segment 2 and 8 are too small to characterise.
CT scan report, 2 October 2017 indicated:
a) There is interval enlargement of multiple lung metastases.
b) Interval enlargement of fluid collection inferior to the right mastectomy site.
c) Interval enlargement of a right lower paratracheal lymph node.
d) Hepatic hypodensities are stable in size.
e) Overall, findings are consistent with disease progression.
CT scan report, 28 November 2017 indicated:
Based on the above reports, PY’s treatment was said to be ineffective and she was scheduled to meet her oncologist again next week. It was that this point in time that Carl came to seek our advice on behalf of his mother. Actually he was just on a “shopping” trip — wanting to know what we can do to help his mother.
After spending one and half hours explaining, I sent Carl home without any herbs.
Go back and discuss with your mom first. Go ahead and see your oncologists next week and continue with what he wants you to do. Come back to see me again if you think I can help you. And this time, it is best that you bring your mom along plus her full medical reports and scans.
Following are some of points we discussed that morning.
Let the doctors take care of the mother till the end. In this way, when his mother dies, Carl or anyone else would not have a scapegoat to put their blame on.
I shared the burden of knowing that his 44-year-old mother is going to suffer a lot more before she dies. I imagine it is hard for anyone to face such a situation. I felt real sorry for this young man.
On this gloomy morning, God helped me to keep cool and let me see the humane need of this patient. I tried to be as nice as I could in my explanation. At the end, both of us struck a “bond.” And I also hoped his trip to Penang was not a waste of money!
I have learnt some lessons from Carl and I do hope Carl did learn some lessons about how to heal his mother.
What can we do about it? You go on treating and treating —- chemo and more chemo and radiation. Amy Cohen put it rightly before she died after the cancer spread to her brain.
Furthermore, undergoing our therapy is not like going on a honeymoon. It requires a lot of commitment on the part of the patient. We show you the path, but you have to help yourself. Most patients would agree to do their best when they are dying, but the moment they get better, they start to “misbehave” — wanting to eat this and wanting to eat that. Then, they don’t want to take the herbs anymore if they can — giving all kinds of excuses or complaints.
Go to SGH. Or why not go back to China for medical or alternative treatments? Carl wanted to know by undergoing all these changes, what would be the benefits? I don’t know. But According to Einstein, doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results is insanity.
6.Carl want to know if it is possible for his mom to stop chemotherapy and then take our herbs for two or three months.
Then we will see if the herbs help her. My response: That is just absurd. If months of chemo did not cure and make her worse, don’t expect the herbs to show results within a month or two. Herbs are not magic potion!
Many patients spent thousands of dollars on their failed treatments and when they come to us, they are concerned about cost. Our consultation is free — yes, one a half hours talking to me is foc.
In general the Indonesians are much poorer but they never ask such questions
Just read these two emails.
Hi Dr. Chris,
I am from Singapore.
I was referred to you by my relative whose mother in law were treated by you while undergoing cancer treatment. My relative shared that she suffer almost no pain during the last stage of her life.
My dad has just been diagnosed with pancreas cancer and has just had his first Chemo treatment.
… I will appreciate if you can advise me on below:
4) How much is the consultation fee? (range if there is no fixed rate)
5) Medicine cost?
Thanks and I look forward to hear more from you.
This is an email from Indonesia.
Hello Dr. Chris, I am T from …. Indonesia. I am female, 19 years old. Last month, I was diagnosed with Acute Myleoid Leukemia-M2 (AML-M2) by my BMP result. Right now, I am feeling good. I have no fatigue, fever, bleeding and bruise.
I don’t want to do chemotherapy treatments because all of the side effects. I wanna use natural way. So, I totally changed my diet and consider your herbs to help me. Can we meet on this Thursday (14 Dec)? Thank you.
(Note: T — a second year engineering student, is in need of help. She came with her mom and Auntie. Her father died when she was 2 years old. Her mother said she has no money to send her for medical treatment which could run to thousands of dollars. I felt real sad. If T comes back to see us again and is really committed to follow our therapy — my wife and I would like to “adopt” her as our daughter!)
Carl countered, You need to understand that there are many Singaporeans who have financial difficulties.
Yes, this is one lesson I learned from Carl this morning. I need to fully understand that!
Carl suggested that it would easier if I just send the herbs by post if his mom would like to follow our therapy. My reply was, No, we cannot do that.
Early in life, my mother taught me that good things never come easy. Noting is served on a silver plate for ordinary folks like us. We have to work hard to succeed. If you are not prepared to help yourself or want an easy way out, nobody can help you.
By asking me all these questions, you have revealed your attitude and personality!
I told my patients this: By talking to you for 5 minutes, I know if I can help you or not. Seventy percent of patients fail the test! Certain people just cannot be helped.
Earlier, I posted an article, Metastatic Breast Cancer: My mom wants to live. Her commitment made her well. In this article RR’s son came to seek our help on behalf of his mother who has Stage 4 breast cancer, just like Carl.
My morning talking with RR’s son is far different from talking with Carl. One comes genuinely wanting to find help for his mother, another comes to “window shop” for his mother.
About 5 years ago, RR – a 70-year-old Indonesian lady found a lump in her right breast. She did not consult any doctor. She opted for Chinese sinseh who prescribed her herbs. She was on his herbs for about 2 years. The lump grew bigger but there was no laceration.
In 2014, RR went to see a doctor because the lump in her breast became painful. A bone scan showed the cancer had already spread to her bones. RR decided to continue taking herbs and did not want any medical treatment.
In July 2015, RR consulted the doctor again. She was again told to do a biopsy but she refused. She did not want to go for chemotherapy either. The doctor prescribed Femara which she agreed to take. In fact RR has been taking Femara and Aromasin alternately since July 2015 until now.
This hormonal oral drug seemed to help her. Her CA 15.3 dropped from 255 to 28 (in August 2016). Unfortunately this reduction of CA 15.3 did not last long. In September 2017, her CA 15.5 increased to 59.
Along the way, RR suffered a fracture at the base of her neck, involving C3 and C4 vertebrae. She had an operation and the problem was resolved.
In July 2017, a PET scan showed the metastasis in her lungs was getting worse. Earlier on in February 2016, the doctor told her that there were small nodules in her liver. Now with this PET the nodules in her liver were bigger. The tumours in Segment 8 was 28 cm (previously 2 cm) and 1.2 cm in size. The mass in Segment 7 was 1.3 cm.
The lump in RR’s right breast was still there — not removed. Now, the nipple in her left breast was retracted.
RR’s son came to seek our help in September 2017 and she was prescribed 8 herbal teas and 5 herbal capsules — Capsules A, B, C, D and M. Herbal teas: Lympho 1, SAP, Lung 1, Lung Phlegm, Liver 1, Bone and PS pack.
THREE MONTHS LATER
She has to take a lot of herbs! Any problem? The first month she had difficulty getting used to the bitter taste and awful smell. But now there is no problem. She got used to it. So taking the herbs is no more a problem.
Her breathing was difficult. What happen now? Before taking the herbs there was fluid in her lungs. This make her difficult to breath. The fluid was tapped out. Then one month after taking the herbs, another tapping was done. After that she is okay. Now, she can breathe normally. She seems to get better.
Any problem with her breasts? The initial problem was with her right breast. Now, the nipple of left right was retracted. No sign that the herbs help in this aspect.
Any pain? No pain, even before taking the herbs.
Before the appetite was not good. Better now? Yes. Before taking your herbs the food had no taste and she felt nauseous all day. Now, her appetite has improved. She can eat twice the amount of food. No more nausea. This is indeed a good improvement for her.
What about the swelling in her neck? No visible improvement. It is not getting smaller or bigger. The same.
You said she had cold sweat? Before the herbs, she felt cold and then produced sweat. This happened anytime — day or night. She just felt miserable — not well. Now, this problem is gone after the herbs.
Over all is she getting better after taking the herbs? Yes, better. She is normal.
Have you gone back to see the doctor — may be undergo chemo? No, chemo is never our choice since the very beginning.
Are you satisfied with your mom’s progress? What else do you want? Yes, we are happy. We hope this can be just maintained this way and not getting worse.
I salute RR for her commitment and determination. Before our therapy, she was not following a healthy diet. She felt nauseous and did not eat well. But after her son saw us, she kept to her healthy diet — cooked the way we taught out patients in my wife’s Healthy Cooking book. She did not complain about her food.
The herbal teas are bitter with awful smell. RR took about a month to get used to the taste. After that she has no problem taking our herbal teas.
The kiasu patients are different. They wanted to eat whatever they like. Some would even tell us that they rather die than stick to our diet recommendation. At our centre, the main problem we face is telling patients what to eat. The moment they are well, this “havoc” starts.
We know that our herbal teas are not good tasting — note, these are natural stuff without any pleasant tasting additives. Many patients give up taking our teas after they get well.
Yes, RR wants to live. And in this story, we know she gets to live well. Some patients want to get well on their own terms.
I also salute RR’s son. He came on behalf of his mother who is in Jakarta. He knows in detail what happened to his mother and he came well prepared with all her medical reports and scan. He is a polite well-mannered son. In our conversation, he did not ask unnecessary questions. He presented us with her mother’s problem and accepted our prescriptions and went home with much hope and expectation.
In all, good things happened because neither the mother nor the son are kiasus. RR “earned” her healing through her commitment.
Ati (not real name) is an Indonesian lady. Sometime in January 2016, she felt a big, mobile lump above her left breast. She consulted a doctor in Pekan Baru hospital. She was asked to undergo a biopsy. She refused. She did nothing after that.
In August 2016, she ended up in the hospital again. This time she submitted to a biopsy. It was breast cancer. In early September 2016, she underwent a mastectomy. Histology confirmed a Stage 2B breast cancer, ER and PR negative and HER-2 positive tumour.
Due to her diabetes, she was hospitalised for one month before she was considered fit for discharge. After two weeks at home, she had to be hospitalised again and this time it was due to fluid accumulation in her chest. About 2.5 liters were extracted. She was discharged after 33 days.
Ati was then asked to undergo 6 cycles of chemotherapy. She promptly refused. A friend, who was our patient, told her about CA Care.
It is worthy to note that Ati’s son works in the hospital. From her son’s observation, many patients had chemo for their cancer. There seems to be no cure and many died.
Ati and her family members came to seek our help in early December 2016. I was mindful that Ati had a double negative cancer and that she was obese. I stressed to Ati that she has to lose half of her body weight if she wants to get well.
Listen to our conversation that morning.
Video 1: After surgery, no chemo for me!
About a year later, Ati’s two daughter came to our centre again. The daughter reported the following:
Then one of her daughters related the story of her friend’s mother. She too had breast cancer. She underwent surgery after Ati. This was followed by chemotherapy and she died about two months ago.
She did not know about CA Care? The daughter said, We brought her medical reports to you and shared our mother’s experience with her. But she did not want to come here. She went ahead with chemotherapy in Pekan Baru.
Listen to our conversation that morning.
Video 2: Mom is okay without chemo. A friend died after chemotherapy.
We are indeed happy to learn that Ati is doing well. She should continue to do what she is doing that makes her well. I issued one warning to her daughters. Go home and tell your mom. She should take care of her diet. Eat “bad” food, you die! Everybody laughed!
To live or to die is your choice! Decide wisely. Herbs are considered by some people as unproven and unscientific, bordering to quackery. But Ati is still fine and healthy. So, what other proof do you need?
Her friend followed the so-called proven way and she died far too soon.
You may want to hear another similar stories.
In his book: Cancer Recovery Guide, pg. 28, Jonathan Chamberlain wrote:
When my wife Bernadette learned that despite all the surgery, radiation and chemotherapy her tumour had returned, she was informed that she had three months to live. She was told this on 17 January. She died on 16 April. Three months exactly.
In our conversation that evening, Jonathan said:
Ros is 55-year-old Indonesian lady. In early January 2016, she found a lump in her left chest just above her breast. A doctor in her hometown requested her to do a biopsy. She refused. She did nothing after that.
Some eight months later, Ros had no choice but had to consult the doctor again since the lump had grown bigger.
A biopsy was done, followed by a total left mastectomy.
Histopathology confirmed a malignant tumour — ER negative, PR negative and HER-2 positive.
After the surgery Ros had to be hospitalised for one month due to complications with her diabetes.
Two weeks after being discharged, Ros had to be hospitalised again for 27 days due to fluid accumulation in her breast.
By November 2016, Ros was okay. She was scheduled for 6 cycles of chemotherapy. She refused the treatment.
I asked her: Why don’t you want to go for chemotherapy?
Ros replied: My son works in the hospital! I saw patients who had undergone chemotherapy. The treatment did not cure them.
Ros and her family came to seek our help in mid-December 2016 after being told by another patient about us.
Six Months Later
Ros’s daughter came back to see us again. Her mother’s health was restored.
I asked: Is she better now compared to the time when she first came here?
Daughter: She is far better off now than before taking the herbs.
Her back pains are gone. Stomach discomforts due to wind was resolved. Her CEA is at 1.9 and CA15.3 at 6.2.
So far so good. Everyone is happy. But let me remind all patients this. This good time may not last forever. Please take care of yourself. Ros is not out of the woods yet. Her healing journey has just started. The cancer can recur anytime if she is not careful.
Many patients assume that they are “cured” after awhile. Then they will go back to their own ways of life and eating habits. Some would stop taking the herbs.
Well, we have a choice. We can do our best to heal ourselves or we can go back to our old ways of life.
In Ros’s case, I have a few concerns.
So, Ros understood what chemo could do for her!
Good morning Dr. Chris,
Just to share my experience with you …
Mary with Ovarian Cancer
This lady had a stage for Stage 4 ovarian CA who came last Feb 2016, seeking for 2nd opinion, her name is Mary (not real name). Apparently she rejected conventional therapy. But the alternative cancer therapy she switched to also gave her chemo but in a non-standard small dosage (carboplatin 5X, radiotherapy 27X) for palliative purpose.
She came seeking for a cure, I told her herbs don’t cure cancers, they only help to heal the body. This concept sounded so foreign to her that she lost confidence and went to the other alternative medical doctor. I told myself “that is fine”, that patient will not do well also if she had started herbs because her mindset is not right.
Julie with Breast Cancer
Fast forward one year later, she came and brought her friend (Julie) who has Stage 4 Ca breast with metastasis to bone and liver. By this action I knew Mary agreed with what I said last year and she still trusts me. She wanted me to help her friend.
But I felt vulnerable. Julie has been having chemo from China and locally — now in a bad shape, short of having herself killed.
If I were to start the herbs and she dies, her family members will think that the herbs kill her. I was reluctant to start her on herbs because her expectations were wrong and she still has not given up with the chemo-alternative therapy.
She is one person with one foot here and another foot there. She could not make up her mind. She is confused, scared and suffering.
Personally both patients wanted to get out of their current treatment but has invested too much in it (to the tune of RM 400k), but too scared.
They are still not grasping the reality that cancer cannot be cured.
And the doctor (not oncologist), when failed in her alternative therapy such as GCMAF and thymus therapy, encouraged patient to go for chemo.
And the oncologist in the hospital then told her that chemotherapy is also divided to conventional chemo — the high dose — and the alternative low dose chemo, but off label used mainly for palliation.
Naturally the patient opted for ‘alternative-chemo’.
In hindsight, comparing my patients with these two patients treated by another ‘alternative doctor’:
1) My CA patients eventually becomes calm, happy, and have a positive outlook of life and prepared to go, cherishing each day as if it was their last.
In contrast, Mary and Julie are still seeking for ‘better’ treatment as long as their finances allows them. They are worried, seeking second opinion for reassurance that what they are doing is right.
2) My CA patients are free to switch or stop their current treatment with herbs and do anything that they think is better or is able to help them. And even when they decide to change, they somehow are still in good terms with me and would sometimes refer their friends who needed help to me.
Whereas, Mary and Julie were initially promised (guaranteed) many things — their confidence boosted. Then later they discovered that such promises were not fulfilled and the guarantee was false.
When they confronted the doctor, the guilt and fear trap was laid by the doctor. Blaming patient for what they did wrong and they would die if they continue to do the ‘wrong’ thing (like stopping their treatment).
Out of fear, they continued with more treatment with the same doctor which they have begun to distrust.
Later on, they will speak negatively about this doctor and tell their friends to avoid this doctor.
That is how I found out about what this doctor is doing.
I am seeing her wither and die in front of me and I cannot and dare not do anything. Very sad.
Note: GcMAF is a protein produced by modification of vitamin D-binding protein. Proponents of GcMAF claim that it is an immunomodulatory protein that has antitumor properties and strengthens the immune system by macrophage activation.
There are two other cases of breast cancer that “hit” me this morning.
Kathy (not real name) is a lady in her mid-forties. She dropped by our centre after learning from a friend about CA Care.
In 1998 (that’s 19 years ago!), Kathy felt a small lump in her left breast. She did nothing about it, although she said she started to pay attention to her diet. By taking care of her diet she was hoping the lump would go away. Unfortunately, contrary to the claims in the internet, the lump did not go away.
Kathy said she endured severe stress when at work — it was always work, work and work in the office. In addition, she suffered emotional stress due to family problems.
In 2010 (that’s 17 years ago), Kathy noticed that the lump grew bigger. She did nothing about it.
Chris: Why did you not go and see a doctor and do something about it?
Kathy: I don’t believe in the doctors anymore! My 54-year-old sister had cancer of the uterus. She went to a hospital in our hometown and underwent an operation. Then she had four rounds of chemotherapy. Each round of chemo consisted of six cycles. (That’s a total of 24 cycles). She died within three years.
So, NO. I don’t want to do any chemo.
In 2011, Kathy underwent a nutritional-colon-cleansing therapy. The therapy was for 7 days. This cost RM1,200. Then in 2014, Kathy came to Penang again for another session of the therapy. This cost RM2,700.
Now, this is what her breast looks like.
Kathy claimed that after her therapy in Penang, the lump became smaller (like the picture in the right above).
Listen to our conversation.
Case 3: Breast Burst and Bled after Keladi Tikus!
This is an email I received this same morning. I don’t attempt to edit it. Here it goes:
31 March 2017
I have mom which suffer of breast cancer. Previously almost 4 month she consume the Keladi Tikus (Typhonium).
After 4 months the breast suddenly burst and bleeding. We send my mom to Hospital and found its already stage 4 but the burst part the cancer didn’t exist anymore.
Then my mom hand become swallow like full of water and its start coming out through the armpit.
Now every day we send to clinic to do dressing and eat the apricot seed & sour sop fruit & turmeric soup. My mom afraid to eat the Typhonium anymore.
Sometimes the breast beating and we did not sure what the causes, either by foods that she consume or may be the medicine effect.
Can some one help us what should we do. My mom should do chemotherapy and surgery can’t be done because of age factor.
Reply: Where are you from …. Jakarta? Where did you get the keladi tikus?
Im from Malaysia and i got it from Kuala Lumpur supplier ? Why ?
Did any fake Keladi Tikus at any market, I will check the brands name at advise accordingly.
Reply: The stuff is not mine …. I advise you to go and see the doctor and have the breast removed!
Has been see doctor and they unable to remove cause of age factor.
Thanks for your time.
Reply: How old ?????? My herbs cannot cure.
65 years old.
Reply: I am really sorry I don’t know what to say or advise. I also don’t know how to solve your problem. No one on earth can cure any cancer. Why don’t you go and consult the doctors in Institute Kanker Negara in Putrajaya? May be they can help. I am only sitting down in front of a computer.
If you still want help …. come and see me in Penang with all the reports.
Something is not right .. and the keladi tikus is not mine! People believe too much in newspaper reports.
It’s okay. Thank for your time and will try to consult in Inst. Kanker Negara.
They say, ignorance is bliss. They also say, knowledge is power (and may even save your life). Make your choice.
As much as I feel sad to see these cases, I know that patients need to find healing for themselves. At CA Care we are only able to show you the way. You need to decide what you want to do. Most important of all, you need to walk that healing path yourself.
You can choose or dictate what you want to do, but you cannot choose its outcome.
Choose what you should do, not what you want to do.