Research on effectiveness of herbs and alternative therapies for cancer
Author: CA Care
In obedience to God's will and counting on His mercies and blessings, and driven by the desire to care for one another, we seek to provide help, direction and relief to those who suffer from cancer.
NH (H-176) is a 82-year-old lady. Sometime in April 2009, she had coughs with white phlegm. She was given cough mixture to take. The problem was not resolved. On 19 October 2009 she went to a private hospital for further management. A CT scan indicated:
A lesion measuring 1.5 x 2.7 cm at the apical segment of the right lower lobe of her lung.
A solitary enlarged lymph node in the middle mediastinum measuring 1 x 1.3 cm.
Minimal bilateral pleural effusion.
Three low-attenuation lesions in the spleen.
NH was given a week of antibiotics. This was not effective. Subsequently the family was told that she had lung cancer. Due to her old age, neither the doctor nor the family were interested in any follow-up treatment. NH and her family came to seek our help on 23 October 2009. She presented with:
Being unable to sleep at times.
Bowel movements were difficult – 3 days once.
She coughed once a while.
She lacked strength.
NH was prescribed Capsule A, Lung 1 and 2, and Constipation teas. After a week on the herbs, her son reported that his mother’s condition had improved. Her coughs were reduced, she was more energetic and there was no more constipation.
We never get to see NH after that although we noted that her son did come to our centre regularly to collect herbs for her. On 20 January 2012 – i.e. 2 years and 3 months later – NH came to our centre with her son.
Ling (H66) was 60-years old when she first came to see us. She is a known Hepatitis C carrier of over a decade. She did nothing about it. And she ate anything she liked. A blood test done on 12 December 2008 indicated elevated liver enzymes and her alpha-fetoprotein (AFP) was at 75 (Table). A repeat of her liver function test was done on 31 March 2009. The results were just as “bad” (Table).
A CT scan done on 15 April 2009, indicated cirrhosis of the liver with portal hypertension. A 13mm lesion was seen in the right lobe, the appearance was consistent with a haemangioma. A 15 mm cyst was seen in the left lobe of her liver.
The doctor suggested that Ling undergo treatment with (Interferon?) injection. She would need about 50 injections and the total cost would come to about RM 40,000. And the chance of success would be about 50% (whatever this means!).
Ling sought the help of a medical doctor who practised alternative therapies – the late Dr. Ishak from Melaka. Ling underwent some treatments in Dr. Ishak’s clinic. After that she was asked to come to CA Care for further management.
Ling came to us on 8 May 2009 and presented with abdominal pains and difficulty in sleeping. She was prescribed Capsule A & B, Liver 1 and Liver 2 –teas and LL-Tea. Since Ling came from another town we only got to see here once in a while over the years.
On 6 December 2011 (two and a half years now), Ling sent someone to collect more her herbs. She is still doing fine.
Table: Blood test results over the years.
The blood test results in February 2011 showed low platelets count. We told Ling to be careful and she should monitor this. Low platelets can result in non-stop bleeding. If the count is low she should go to the hospital for blood transfusion. Ling can also take juice extracted from the young papaya shoots or she can boil the mature papaya leaf and make it into tea. This may help with her blood counts. Overall her liver function parameters were better after taking the herbs compared to those days before she was on the herbs. Her AcuGraph readings over the time also showed improvements (below).
GS (T791) is a 54 year-old lady. A cervical biopsy and endometrial curetting indicated a moderately differentiated adenocarcinoma of the endometirum. Subsequently, GS underwent a surgery – TAHBSO (total abdominal hysterectomy-bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy) at a private hospital. The pathology report confirmed a well differentiated adenocarcinoma of the endometrium, classical endometrioid type, Stage 3B (T2bNxMx), tumour invades into cervical stroma. Associated lesion: leiomyoma uteri.
After the surgery, GS was asked to undergo radiotherapy. She refused. Then she was asked to go for chemotherapy, again she refused.
GS came to seek our help on 9 April 2008 and was started on herbs – Capsule A, C-tea and Cervical 1 and 2 teas. In April 2012, GS would have been on herbs for FOUR years. GS is doing fine. Initially when she took the herbs, she had a bit of pulling pain. This was probably due to the surgery. Then she had hot flashes. This problem was resolved after taking our Menopause Pill. GS did not have any other complaints. She has been taking these herbs “religiously” besides taking care of her diet.
ST (M-73) is a lady from Medan. She was 50 years old when diagnosed with rectal cancer in 2002. About a year before this diagnosis, she passed out blood in her stools. She took all kinds of herbs but the herbs did not help her.
In December 2002, she came to a private hospital in Penang and underwent an operation. The pathology indicated a moderately differentiated adenocarcinoma of the rectum, Duke’s Stage C (infiltrating into pararectal node). Pararectal nodes with metastatic adenocarcinoma (1/5).
ST was fitted with a colostomy bag for three months. In April 2003, the bag was removed and her colon rejoined. The doctor suggested that ST undergo radiotherapy. She refused. She told her doctor that she wanted to take our herbs.
ST came to seek our help on 18 April 2003 and was prescribed Capsule A, C-tea, GI 1 and GI 2 teas. Three months later, ST came back again and reported that she was getting better. An USG done on 4 July 2003 confirmed that everything was normal.
Since ST is from Medan, we do not get to see her often. She came once every few years. However, she continued to take the herbs over these years. On 30 December 2011, ST dropped by the centre. She was doing fine. She went to see her doctor and the doctor told her that everything is normal.
Questions to ponder
After the surgery she declined radiotherapy or chemotherapy.
What could have happened if she was to undergo radiotherapy as suggested by her doctor?
Would radiotherapy make any difference to her well-being today?
How much better could she be with radiotherapy? Or would it result in some unforeseen, long-term side effects?
Amy (not real name) is a 39 year old lady from Indonesia. She came to seek our help on 13 January 2012. She had severe discomforts – her stomach was bloated, very tired and afraid of the cold – even unable to withstand the air-conditioning in our centre. The first words to me were, “Please help me get rid of the wind in my stomach. I was not able to pass out any gas. And I did not have my bowel movements for the past few days.”
Generally for such a case, I would advise the patient to go back to their doctors. Let their doctors help them. At CA Care we want to heal the whole person – and we don’t know how to “repair your problem” through piece meal effort. So I told her, “Before I try to help you, please tell me what have you been doing? Only then I can understand what have gone wrong.”
This is her tragic story.
1. In May 2011, Amy had vaginal bleeding once and then there was watery discharge. A biopsy was done at a hospital in Indonesia. It was confirmed carcinoma of the cervix.
2. Amy came to a private hospital in Penang for further investigation. Physical examination showed presence of a huge mass arising from the cervix involving the left parametrium. The doctor indicated it was a cervical adenocarcinoma, Stage 2B.
3. She also had a 1.9 x 1.5 x 2.0 cm mass in her left breast. A lumpectomy was performed for her breast. She was started on Tamoxifen.
4. Amy was referred to a cancer hospital for radiotherapy of her cervical cancer. She underwent 25 sessions of radiotherapy and at the same time received 5 cycles of chemotherapy. The drug used was cisplatin given at weekly interval.
5. Amy also underwent 2 sessions of brachytherapy (internal radiotherapy). This second treatment was done on 2 August 2011. Amy refused a third session of brachytherapy.
6. Her medical report on 9 November 2011 stated,
“ There was suboptimal response during brachytherapy which patient was aware of.
”“She was psychologically frail towards end of treatment.”
“She still has persistent vaginal mucoid discharge.”
7. After radiotherapy in Penang, Amy still had vaginal bleeding. She went to a specialist centre in PJ, Selangor for second opinion. The oncologist said, “She came to see me on 24 August 2011 for profuse vaginal bleeding. There was an area of ulceration in the right vaginal vault. I managed to stop the bleeding after using vaginal tampon. Then I referred her to another professor in Kuala Lumpur.”
8. Amy returned to Penang and underwent an operation – TAHBSO (Total abdominal hysterectomy with bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy) on 14 November 2011. “The histopathology report showed well differentiated endocervical adenocarcinoma of the cervix. There is metastasis to both ovaries. There is no tumour response to chemo-radiation therapy.”
9. Back in Indonesia, Amy suffered abdominal pains in mid December 2011. This was what her doctor in a Indonesia hospital wrote, “A recent CT scan was done which showed:
Pulmonary metastases – i.e., the cancer has spread to both her lungs.
Bilateral hydronephrosis – i.e., swelling of both kidneys due to build-up of urine. This was later found to be due to blockage of the urinary tract.
Mass in pelvis with suspected infiltration to bladder and rectum, peritoneum and omentum with ascites.”
The doctor in Indonesia prescribed pain killers and antibiotics.
10. In January 2012, Amy went back to a university hospital in Kuala Lumpur. A CT scan on 4 January 2011 indicated “recurrence of CA cervix with widespread metastasis with IVC (inferior vena cava) thrombous.” AMY remained in the university for 10 days and underwent two surgical procedures;
Installation of two stents to relieve the blockage of her urinary tubes.
Installation of IVC filter – an “umbrella” structure to reduce the incidence of arterial blockage caused by a blood clot. The device is made from very thin wires, having a mesh-like structure which resembles an umbrella.
In spite of all the above “treatment” and “rescue” procedures, Amy did not get well.
On 13 January 2012 Amy and her husband came to seek our help – complaining of gas accumulation in her abdomen and not being able to move her bowels for the past few days.
Comments
Let me ask you to reflect on these questions.
What do you think are the causes of all these problems? Is it the cancer or the treatments?
What would happen if she just did nothing? Would she be in trouble within six months like she is in now?
Is this the first “tragic case” that such a thing happened?
The surgeon wrote a significant comment after the surgery – “There is no tumour response to chemo-radiation therapy.” Think hard – is this the first time someone had realized that chemotherapy and radiotherapy were not effective? If they were not effective, why was the patient subjected to such treatments? Think again – besides being ineffective, don’t they do more harm?
At CA Care we often come across such cases. Take time to reflect on the following cases.
They Died Soon Afterwards – After Radio-Chemotherapy
1. Cervical Cancer Stage 2A – After Chemotherapy and Radiotherapy, She Died Within 1 year 8 months
Mother was 64 years old and was diagnosed with cancer of the cervix, Stage 2A in December 2000. She underwent 26 times of radiation and 6 cycles of chemotherapy. The cancer recurred after a year. She had radiotherapy again for 11 times. Her health deteriorated and she was in severe pain. Mother died 1 year and 8 months after being diagnosed with cervical cancer.
What had gone wrong? Was it the treatment or the cancer that killed her?
Listen to what the daughter said.
2. The Biggest Mistake I Have Ever Made
In his book: Cancer Recovery Guide, pg. 28, Jonathan Chamberlain wrote:
When my wife Bernadette learned that despite all the surgery, radiation and chemotherapy her tumour had returned, she was informed that she had three months to live. She was told this on 17 January. She died on 16 April. Three months exactly.
In our conversation that evening, Jonathan said:
From my own experience with my wife, we were in awe of the doctors …. We were in awe of our ignorance. We assumed that the doctors were best … I realized that was the biggest mistake I have ever made – to do what the doctors advise. You learn the hard way.
She (wife) suffered from chemotherapy and it killed her. She died not just from cancer. She died from cancer plus chemotherapy. She died within one year because she did everything that doctor advised her.
Melisa Abandoned Medical Treatments, After Much Damage Being Done
Melisa-A61, was a 44-year old female. She underwent a hysterectomy for her cancer of the cervix, Stage 1b (take note – early stage). After the operation, she underwent 25 times of radiation treatments and one time of brachytherapy (internal therapy). Melisa ended up having to go in and out of the hospital due to pains, fevers and temperatures. Later, a scan showed that there was pus in her abdomen. A scan revealed that the cancer had spread to the lungs and liver. Melisa ended up in a hospital in Singapore – in search for a cure. The doctor at first suggested that she undergo surgery to remove the infected parts. Melisa reasoned out how surgery could have helped her when the entire liver and lungs were infected with cancer? She declined surgery but went ahead with chemotherapy. The first shot of chemotherapy was tolerable but the second and third shots were real bad. She preferred to die rather than complete the treatments.
Listen to what she said in the following videos:
What if the patients forgo medical treatments?
1. Cervical Cancer Stage 2A –Survived Five Years With Herbs Only, Refused Radiotherapy
This was a 70-year-old lady. She was diagnosed with cancer of the cervix, Stage 2A, in May 2000. She declined medical treatments and came to seek our help. She was on herbs. Watch the video clips below – they were recorded on 9 November 2001, 6 September 2002, 9 January 2005 and 3 February 2005. Patient had survived about five years – she did not die like the above lady who had the same type and stage of cancer and died 1 year 8 months after undergoing radiotherapy and chemotherapy.
Unfortunately, in November of 2004, this patient had to take care of her grandchild, was under a lot of stress, decided not to take her herbs that kept her alive all these years. Then she started to take all the “bad food.” About two months later, she suffered a relapse. Later we learned that she died.
2. You Can Give Me Anything But Not Chemotherapy or Radiotherapy
Yin was diagnosed with cancer of the cervix in 1999. This was followed by an operation. Since everything was clean, no further treatment was indicated. Barely four years later, in August 2003,Yin suffered severe pains in her backbone. The CT scan indicated a small right thyroid nodule and bilateral pleural effusion (fluid in both lungs).
Yin was 67 years old when she suffered this recurrence. Consultation with three oncologists in Kuala Lumpur yielded the same opinion – Go for chemotherapy and radiotherapy. However, the treatment would be only palliative. It would not cure her. At best it was only to promote her quality of life. The prognosis by these cancer experts was six months to live! Yin said she would rather die than undergo chemotherapy and radiotherapy. She had seen how two of her brothers suffered and died while undergoing these treatments.
Yin’s son decided to bring her mother to see us on 23 September 2003. Yin was started on Capsule A, Cervical Tea, Utero-ovary Tea, Bone Tea, Lung Tea and C-Tea. Within six months after taking these herbs, Yin’s life was restored to normalcy and she was free of pains.
Yin died in 2011 because of a heart attack, not because of her cancer. She had been taking the herbs for EIGHT years.
Eng (H241) is a 65-year-old male. In 2007 he underwent an angioplasty procedure. Sometime in July 2009, he suffered from indigestion and nausea. Then in August 2009, he vomited blood. He was admitted into a government hospital. A biopsy done on 23 October 2009 indicated large cell, B-cell type gastric non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma (NHL) of intermediate grade.
On 8 December 2009, he underwent chemotherapy with modified CHOP – cyclophosphamide + vincristine + Epirubicin and Prednisolone. Medical record indicated he received a LOWER dosage due to his past medical history. He suffered the following severe side effects after just a cycle of chemotherapy.
Nausea
Vomiting
Fevers, temperature 38.1 C
Slow heartbeat (junctional bradycardia)
Hardening (consolidation) of the right lung
Stroke (left thalamus infarction)
Uncontrolled hypertension
As a result of the above, life was difficult for Eng. He had no strength and was unable to urinate. This is what was written on his medical report. “20 December 2009 – In view of patient’s poor tolerance to chemo and the lesion is localized within the stomach” patient was referred for radiotherapy.
Eng was asked to undergo 25 times of radiation treatment. He refused. He was discharged and prescribed with the following drugs:
Omeprazole
Lovastatin
Ticlid
Isordil
Amlodipine
Perindopril
Prazocin
Gliclazide
Laquid paraffin
Lactulose
Patient’s daughter came to seek our help on 17 January 2010. She presented her father’s condition as below:
No pain
Unable to sleep
Can’t eat – no appetite, nausea and sometimes vomit
Tired
Bowel movements once every few days – constipatioin
Cough with sticky phlegm
Breathless
No strength
We prescribed Capsule A, C-tea, Lympho 1 and 2 teas, Constipation tea and Appetite & Vomit tea.
24 January 2010: After one week on the herbs, his appetite and bowel movements improved. He could talk with a louder voice. But he still had difficulty with urination.
29 January 2010: No more nausea, every day he moved his bowels, and he was able to walk better. Before the herbs he was only able to stand up for a while only.
5 March 2010: Health improved – could walk. Appetite improved. Swelling of both legs were gone. He was able to urinate. For the first time, his daughter brought her father to meet us (see video).
12 November 2010: Eng came to see us. He was doing fine.
9 December 2011: He was doing fine – almost two years since he started taking the herbs. Eng came to see us with his daughter (see video).
Permission to use this video without having to mask patient’s face is granted by the family.
Comments
Because of his medical history, Eng was only given “lower” dose chemotherapy. In spite of that, he suffered severe side effects. What do you think could happen if he was to be given a “FULL” dose? Can he die from the treatment?
What is the idea or rationale of receiving “lower” dose chemotherapy? Do you mean to say that a “lower” dose can also cure him when using a “full “dose may not cure patients?
Since further chemotherapy had to be aborted, Eng was asked to undergo 25 times of radiotherapy. Was this a wise advice? Can radiotherapy cure stomach lymphoma?
What could have happened if Eng were to undergo radiotherapy? Would he not suffer even worse side effects?
The family decided to give up medical treatment. Eng’s daughter surfed the net and found CA Care. Eng was put on herbs. His conditions improved and as of this writing (13 December 2011), after almost two years, he is still doing fine.
Does this not indicate that what Eng did for the past two years – taking herbs and change of diet – is good for him? How much scientific proof do we need from this success story?
Think hard – do you really need chemo or radiation for such a case? Is there not a better way of treating such a “sick” person like Eng besides such invasive treatments?
What if you were told to remove one kidney because of your cancer? That’s okay. I have a patient and friend, who had a kidney removed because of his cancer. He took herbs and was on our diet. He is living a good life for the past sixteen years.
But what if you were told to remove one and a half of your kidneys? That would be a dilemma. The remaining one half kidney may not function. You may need to go on dialysis for the rest of your life.
And what if removing your kidney does not really solve your cancer problem? Surgery does not cure cancer. It just buys you time. Cancer can recur. What if the cancer recurs? That means you need the toxic chemotherapy treatment besides having to undergo dialysis to keep you alive.
What if you live in a place where you are not sure if there is a “good” dialysis facility? That is not your doctor’s problem anymore.
I am not “cooking” up these questions. I had to deal with this problem not long ago – while I was on a vacation. I received this email on 20 November 2011.
To: Dr. Chris K.H. Teo,
My father had been diagnosed with kidney cancer. I am now confused as to what to do. A friend recommended me to see Dr. Teo. Hopefully Dr. Teo can help. We are now in Singapore, if it is possible to meet, I will be looking for flights to Penang today. Thank you. (Translated from Indonesian)
Knowing that he was desperate, I told him to come and see me as soon as I was back in Malaysia. So on 24 November 2011, SK and his two sons came to Penang. Below is our conversation that day.
SK’s problem started about two years ago. He had blood in his urine. He consulted an urologist who prescribed him medication. The problem disappeared. Then in May 2011, there was again blood in his urine.
An ultrasound of his abdomen on 27 May 2011 indicated a 67.2 x 64.2 mm mass in his right kidney and a 70.5 x 56.0 mm mass in his left kidney.
SK was again prescribed medication and the problem disappeared after taking it. In mid-November 2011, SK again had blood in his urine. Accompanied by his two sons, SK went to Singapore for further consultation.
A CT scan done on 16 November 2011 indicated a large mass, 6.7 x 8.4 x 7 cm in size in the left kidney. The right kidney has a nodular mass, 6.6. x 4.9 x 6.4 cm in size. Appearances are highly of bilateral renal neoplasm.
A blood test on 16 November 2011 showed elevated creatinine (141.0) level. His alkaline phosphatase was at 165 (high) and GGT at 228 (high). Other parameters, including AFP, CEA and PSA, were within normal range.
A bone scan done on 21 November 2011 indicated no conclusive evidence of any bony metastases.
Based on the above, the doctor in Singapore said he was 95 percent sure that SK has kidney cancer. SK was asked to undergo an operation to remove the tumours in both his kidneys. This would involve removing one and a half kidneys. There is a 50:50 chance that the remaining one half of the other kidney may not function after the surgery. If this happens, SK would have to be on dialysis. In spite of this set back, the doctor said the tumours must be removed.
SK and his sons refused further medical treatment. SK told us, “What the doctor offered me is not going to solve my problems.” He opted for our therapy. On 24 November 2011, SK was prescribed Capsule A and B, Liver Tea, Kidney Tea, Detox+ WF Tea and Lung Tea. While back in Indonesia, we kept in touch via e-mails through his son.
E-mail Communication
1 December 2011
I wish to inform you about my father’s condition. After taking the herbs for 6 days and following your diet recommendation, he felt weak, sweat very frequently, lost his appetite, felt nauseous. Are these expected?
Reply: Continue taking the herbs and let me know what happen after one more week.
2 December 2011
Today my father vomited and could not eat anything. After eating he vomited. He felt nauseous. Should he continue taking the herbs? Because of the vomiting he cannot even drink the herbal teas. Please advise.
Reply: Okay. Take Capsule A only. Then see what happen after that. If okay, drink Detox tea + WF + Capsule A – see what happen. Let me know. Chris.
9 December 2011
I wish to inform you about my father conditions:
a) After stopping Capsule B, his stomach felt better, he vomited less but he still vomited at night.
b) His whole body was very uncomfortable – very tired, sweating, blurred vision, dizzy when standing up. Are these the side effects of the herbs?
c) Now my father is taking: Capsule A (1 capsule, 3 times per day), Energy and Kidney Teas. He does not take: Capsule B, Detox tea + WF, Liver and Lung teas. What is your advice? Should continue or stop any one of them?
d) After 10 days on the herbs, we did a blood test. The results are attached. Please have a look if there is any improvement? What do you think?
Reply:
a) He should not have such side effects – is he the kind of person who is fussy about his food? Difficult and selective about the taste of food?
b) Feeling of discomforts is because of his stomach? Any gastric problem before? Did he take Capsule A + B with honey water?
c) What about his blood pressure? His blood counts were low but I don’t expect such problems.
d) I have no other way. If you take the herbs and they are not helpful, go and find someone else to help you.
f) Don’t expect after taking the herbs for 10 days the blood test results are going to be better.
15 December 2011
Dr. Chris. Thank you for the information. My father is improving. He is now taking all the herbs, except Capsule B as you have suggested. In the next 5 days our herbs are going to be finished and we plan to come and see you on 21 December 2011. Would you be able to see us?
Reply: Okay come and see me, 10.30 a.m. Chris
Second Visit to CA Care – 22rd – 23 December 2011
SK, his wife and son came to CA Care after taking herbs for three weeks. On the second week of taking the herbs, he experienced healing crisis. He had more problems and was not getting better but these problems gradually resolved by themselves. If you know more by what we need by healing crisis, click on this link: https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2012/01/18/healing-crisis/
E-mail Communication
6 January 2012
The e-Therapy machine is helping all my family members, including me. All of us are using the machine. Day by day my father’s condition, after coming back, is getting better. Now, his appetite is getting better, physically he looks more fresh and energetic. We celebrated Christmas eve by watching the movie at the cinema. He was so excited at the moment. Thank you for your advice and support, Dr. Chris. GBU
Reply: Very good and happy to hear that. Yes, make your father happy always. Please let me know the following:
a) Before he vomited, now does he still vomit?
b) Any pain in the stomach?
c) Does the machine help him with the stomach problem? I asked you to use the program for Stomach function program.
d) Is there any pain any where?
Thanks so much and keep well always. Chris
6 January 2012
Yes, I hope day by day will be better and better.
a) No, a day after coming back from Penang he felt better with his stomach. He told me that after winds came out from his stomach, he felt so good. He never needs to take the Vomit herb until now.
b) He said that there is no pain in his stomach, but he felt so much wind in there.
c) After coming back from Penang, and after he felt better with his stomach, he never used the Stomach function program at all. He does the cancer programs only.
d) According to him, there is a little pain in his kidney (more in the right kidney), the pains comes just sometimes.
Reply: Thanks so much for your answer. I am happy to note that he is not vomiting anymore. And he continues to take the other herbs? Chris
7 January 2012
Yes, he takes all the herbs: Energy, Liver-P, Kidney, Lung, Capsule A & B, Detox tea. And he is doing the machine program like you taught me. Morning, midday and at night – everyday.
Reply: One more question — After he took all the herbs — did he vomit this time? Before he came and saw me the second time and before using the machine —- he vomited after taking herbs or even drinking something. Now is he , no vomit? Chris
7 January 2012
Morning Dr. Chris,
Alright, no vomiting anymore. Even after taking the Capsule B (before you suggested that he stop taking it because he vomited after taking Capsule B). Now he is taking all the herbs, except Vomit Tea.
Reply: Great and thanks. Chris
15 January 2012
Dr. Chris,
My father vomited again this night. He told me there was a lot of gas in his stomach. Morning and mid-day he felt good, but in the night not good (every day). What do you think? Is it the effect after take capsule B? Your opinion please.
Thank you.
Reply: Can you try #72 -Stomach problem and there is also #124 Stomach Gas. Try one first and see what happens. Then later try another and see what happens. I think his stomach is not good. Let me know. Chris
16 January 2012
What happen to the vomit now? Chris
20 January 2012
Dr. Chris,
My father is not vomiting anymore.
Reply: Okay thank you — next time you know what to do if he vomits again. You use the machine for his vomit? Chris
26 January 2012
Hello Dr.Chris,
Happy Chinese New Year. Yes, my dad used the machine for his vomit. Thanks.
Comments
This is indeed a sad story. I fully empathize with SK. He was in limbo having to choose between the “devil and the deep blue sea.” As a rule, any patient who comes to us with kidney tumour will be told to go back to his/her doctor for surgery. Get the diseased kidney out! Then come to us for herbs. But in this case, it is not possible for me to say that to SK. If surgery can ensure that the cancer does not recur and spread to other organs then I am tempted to “push” him towards surgery. At least SK will end up with only just a problem –dialysis for the rest of his life. But what if the cancer comes back, example to his lung? Chemo would be the obvious answer! I have fully explained this scenario to SK and his two sons.
As you can hear from our conversation, SK and his family have already decided to decline further medical intervention. The treatment plan proposed by the Singapore does not make sense to him. Likewise, I tell all patients – evaluate what your doctor has got to offer you – if it makes sense, go for it. If it does not make sense, don’t go for it! It is your responsibility to make whatever decision that you are most comfortable with.
Sometimes before making a decision, it is wise for patients or their loved ones to “read and read”. Don’t just listen and believe what your doctor or friends said. Find the necessary information yourself, if you can. In this way, at least you can go to the “battle” well prepared.
This is exactly what I did in SK’s case. To be better informed, I searched the internet for the answers to the questions below. And you will be surprised that there are many others asking the same questions and there are equally many others who are willing to share their own experiences with you.
Could You Live Without Your Kidneys?
A person can live with only one functioning kidney if the other is diseased or has been removed. But no one can live without both kidneys, unless he undergoes almost daily treatments on a dialysis machine.
I recently had both kidneys removed and only require dialysis 3 times a week for 4 hours each visit. In each session I filter approx 68 litres of blood. I have to take tablets for blood pressure as well as other conditions and can only drink 500ml of fluid a day as I no longer make any pee. I have a low potassium, sodium and phosphate diet. So yes, you can live without kidneys, but it’s not straightforward or easy.
I don’t have any kidneys and I haven’t had any for 6 years now. I do my dialysis 3 days in a week for 5 hours at a time.
About 9 months ago I had both kidneys removed. I need dialysis 4 times a week for 4 hours. I can drink 0. 5 litre to 1 liter per day, but for example I drank about 8 liter last weekend. Drink-throw up, drink-throw up, drink-throw up – that’s the answer.
I currently have half a kidney on one side and one 3rd on the other half of my body. So I don’t have one full kidney. I am still living an awesome life … doing anything I want.
2. So, what is your life like on dialysis?
Obviously it is going to be a life changing thing but something that we must learn to cope with and becomes part of our life. No one would choose dialysis versus normal functioning kidneys. However without dialysis life is not possible at all. There are risks of taking off too much fluid or not enough fluid. There are risks of infection, both blood infections and infections of the fistula. Again, no one volunteers to do dialysis but it is definitely better than dying from renal failure. In my experience, patients usually learn to cope well and make it a “normal part of life”.
I went on dialysis at age 45 and did very well. Most of the time I felt very good. I was in good shape. Here is what worked for me. I was very compliant with my treatment. I did not skip dialysis sessions and I didn’t end them before my time on the machine was done. I followed the diet, which can make a big difference in how you feel. I did not have fluid restrictions. I took all my medicines. I had very good doctors and an extremely good nursing team at dialysis. I tried to educate myself about dialysis & kidney disease.
My brother suffered total kidney failure and had to go on dialysis. He feels constantly tired and generally ill, he’s on a massively strict diet plan (rule of thumb: if it’s nice, you probably can’t have it). Although he can do occasional driving work on my uncle’s farm, anything more than a half-day’s worth leaves him exhausted.
My mom was on dialysis. My mom has said she would rather die than do dialysis again. The restrictive diet was really hard especially the drinking less liquid part of it. Having said all that her Doctors were quite firm with her that she should continue working and have as normal a life as a possible while doing the dialysis, they said and I can see this to be true, that removing the things that normalize her life would make her more prone to depression and more apt to feel awful about her treatment. So she continued to work.
I am a 37 yr old female. To be perfectly honest I HATE dialysis, I hate having to sit in a chair for 3 and a half hours, bored, and senseless out of my mind, hardly a soul to talk to, having to sit without moving in case the stupid perm-a-cath in my neck decides to play up, the fact my pulse races anywhere up to and over 150. If it wasn’t for my husband, son and mum and dad I think I would just tell them to get lost and do without it. I am starting to hate Monday, Wednesday and Friday – the days in between aren’t much better. If I am not out in hot flushes in throwing up, but because of my family I keep going.
Deciding not to do dialysis is not suicide!!! It’s natural. I personally do not do well on dialysis but I see other people that do better. No one in my center is happy about being there especially me. On dialysis days I go from 5:30 am to 8:30 am. I can’t drive after this because it takes such a toll on me so my husband picks me up and takes me home and goes back to work. I am down for the day. They next day I feel a little better so I get some house work done and cook dinner for 2 days in advance. I always said I would not do dialysis but here I am doing it with the hope of getting a transplant and that is the only reason I have continued for 5 months. My quality of life stinks. I have nothing to look forward to. It is starting to take a toll financially. My marriage is suffering in several ways. So what I am living for is not to disappoint other people. I feel like a burden. I want my life back.
My brother has been on dialysis for 5 years now and is 24. The only thing that bothers him about dialysis is it can become an inconvenience. It does make him weaker and very tired, but only on the day he has it, and this usually only lasts a few hours. But as most people have said there is a fluid intake limit and if the patient exceeds this limit it can have side effects such as sickness. The machine affects everyone differently.
I have been on dialysis for almost three years. At first I liked going because it made me feel so much better. Then it was annoying and boring. Then I hated it with a passion and resented having to go. Now I just accept it and go, trying to make the best of it with books, CDs and my portable DVD player. Those three days a week make the rest of my life possible. On the regular days, I am reasonably energetic, I exercise and eat well, so I look as healthy as anyone else, maybe more so.
3. How long can a person live on dialysis?
Until they die.
I’m 62 yrs old and have Agent Orange Cancer and diabetes type 2. I will be stopping dialysis, just too tired to keep going. Yes I know that it is death warrant but it is time to let go.
My wife is on dialysis. I have heard of people being on it for over twenty years, So, if you take care of yourself, it should be able to go indefinitely if needed.
I have been living with dialysis for the past 24yrs (I am 43yrs old) and I still doing quite well.
So how long can a person live on dialysis. As long as they need to, or as long as they want to, or as long as they can. It’s just like how long can you live at all. Tomorrow isn’t promised to anyone, regardless of their health!
My great aunt has been on dialysis for about 15 years! She’s living a long and healthy life so far. As of now, she is 89 years old!
The answer to that varies with individual. I have been on dialysis for 3 1/2 years now. It has been a horrific experience. One, the big dialysis machines (hemo) WILL KILL YOU. They beat you senseless so you have the shakes the rest of the day and get NO sleep at night. So you just sort of try and recover the next day, so you can get pasted all over again. Two, have a career? Forget IT. Once you have been tagged as a sicky you are going nowhere fast, no matter your degrees or training. Three, hemo dialysis just weakens you in the short run, medium run, and long run so other diseases can take hold. The person who answered that you can have a long productive life on dialysis is a quack. probably one of these quack doctors in the field. They probably never did one hour on dialysis. YOU WANT REALITY? Take it from a REAL patient.
My father just passed away last month, he had dialysis for almost ten years. I can see him getting weaker and weaker each day. Finally his heart became so weak that he cannot take dialysis anymore.
There are a lot of good answers in here. Unfortunately, it’s tough to give an accurate number since every case is different. One patient might make it for 20+ years, another might not make it to 4. A lot depends on how well the person takes care of themselves during dialysis and how much kidney function they have left. It seems to me, the less kidney activity you have the worse off you’re going to be.
Outlook of Kidney Cancer
The prognosis for kidney cancer is usually good when a single kidney is removed and the cancer is at its early stage. If both kidneys are removed or the remaining kidney does not function well enough, patients need hemodialysis or a kidney transplant. Unfortunately kidney cancer has a tendency to reoccur after surgery. When that happens, the game is virtually over because metastatic kidney cancer is generally resistant to chemotherapy and radiotherapy.
You may then ask, “So what can CA Care has got to offer?” As I have always said to patients. “We have nothing to cure your cancer – for whatever cancer you have!” Go to your doctor if you want a cure. Go to your doctor if you want to put up a good “fight” with your cancer. Come to us if you want healing. At CA Care we teach you how to live with your cancer and with our herbs and change of lifestyle and diet, hopefully these will help restore your health. We hope to help rebuild your life so that you can still continue to live a pain-free and meaningful life without fear. We want you to recognise that death is an inevitable part of life. Therefore you should be living your life without fear. Don’t you not realize that the day we are born, we are destined to die? No one can escape this ultimate destiny. Medicine cannot win over death no matter how heroic your doctor’s effort is or how great the technology applied is. Rather than fight, let’s accept the inevitable so that we can live a more relaxed and happy life.
Professor Jane Plant went to war with her cancer. At the end she said,
Update: 24 February 2012
Hallo Dr. Chris, My father’s health as a person is not bad. He can do some activities every day. He is in Jambi now. He came back to Jambi at 12th January 2012. Dr. Chris, do you think that my father have a hope to survive with his condition, your opinion please. He does all your suggestions, diet etc. Do you think the sciatica and sore in his waist is normal? Thanks.
Acknowledgment: The patient granted her permission to use this video without having to mask her face.
1. A Long Journey From Home to Penang
MN (S-81) is a 56-year-old lady from Indonesia. She and her husband came to a private hospital in Penang to search for an alternative treatment for her Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma. But there was none. She was given the same option – undergo chemotherapy again.
They live in Labuan Batu, a town south of Medan. Coming to Penang is a long journey indeed. From home, first they had to travel for 9 hours by bus (or 6 hours by train) to Medan. After an overnight stay in Medan, they took a plane to Penang.
2. Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma
Sometime in early 2011, MN felt lethargic. Her stomach was painful. She had profuse sweating, specially her head . For the past one year she had been coughing. Doctors were unable to cure her coughs.
In May 2011, MN was diagnosed with non-Hodgkin’s lymphoma. She underwent six cycles of chemotherapy with CHOP.
After the completion of the chemo treatment the cancer recurred in the form of a small swelling at her left collar bone – at the same spot where she did a biopsy earlier. MN was asked to undergo another round of chemotherapy. She refused and came to Penang looking for alternative medicine.
(Note: CHOP regimen consists of four drugs – Cyclophosphamide, Doxorubicin (or Adriamycin), Vincristine and Prednisolone. The first three drugs of the CHOP chemotherapy regimen are usually given as injections or infusions in veins on a single day, while prednisolone is taken as pills for five days. Each cycle is repeated every 3 weeks for 6 to 8 cycles).
MN received her treatment in a government hospital in Medan. Each treatment required a two-day stay in the hospital.
3. Life was Difficult During and After Chemotherapy
The first five chemos seemed to help MN. Her health seemed to improve. However, the sixth chemo was “bad”. Her health deteriorated – “dropped”. She had no strength and was not even able to climb out of bed by herself. She had to be hospitalized for two weeks. After being discharged from the hospital, she regained some strength. She was able to walk for about 10 metres and had to stop. At home she was not able to do anything. Her husband had to do all the house chores.
She said, “I walked a bit, my feet felt numb. My hands felt numb. I felt difficult, nauseous. I was bald.”
After chemo, her stomach pains disappeared but her one-year-old problem of coughs and profuse sweating persisted.
4. Recurrence
One and a half months after the completion of her chemo, a small lump appeared at the collar bone – the same site where she first had her biopsy. The doctor in Medan confirmed it was a recurrence. She was asked to undergo a second round of chemotherapy.
5. More of the Same Advice in Penang
MN said, “I do not want any more chemo. That is why I come here.”
MN and her husband came to a private hospital in Penang in December 2011 in the hope of finding an alternative treatment to chemo. But she was told to do more of the same thing – undergo more chemotherapy!
Husband: “No point. If we wanted to do chemo, we could have stayed back in Medan (treatment was given free-of-charge because he was an ex-government staff). In Penang, I have to pay for the treatment.”
The oncologist suggested two options. The first option is to use drugs that cost RM 7,000 per cycle. This means, the six-cycle-treatment would come to about RM 42,000. The oncologist told them that this treatment will cure her cancer. The second option is to use cheaper drugs costing RM 3,000 per cycle. But the effectiveness is uncertain.
Chris: Well, that means you have to sell your house to pay for the treatment?
MN: “No, we have no house to sell. Even to come here now – the expenses are provided by our children.”
Chris: Do you believe what the oncologist told you – that the expensive chemo can cure you?
MN and Husband: “No, we never believe what he said.”
MN: “I refused to do more chemo. I can’t stand chemo any more. I can’t walk, I can’t eat. I am still bald now.”
6. Disappointed – But Later They Found CA Care
MN and her husband were disappointed. They did not find the alternative treatment they wanted from the hospital. They did not know what to do next. However, a day later a lady told them about CA Care.
Chris: So you came to see us (on 18 December 2011).
MN: “Actually my son also asked me to find for an alternative way. He said I should find that herbalist in Penang. But he did not know who.”
7. CA Care’s Herbs and e-Therapy Restored Her Health
MN was prescribed Capsule A, Lympho 1 and Lympho 2 teas, C-tea and Cough No 3, 5 and 11 for her problems. She was also told to take care of her diet.
Husband: “Her health improved within three weeks.”
Chris: Yesterday you told us that before you first came to Penang (in December 2011), all your friends who saw you cried. Why did they cry?
Husband: “They looked at her – her health was so bad. She was so weak. When we went home all her friends were smiling. She looked better.”
MN: “ I was so full of hope after meeting you, doctor.”
Chris: Are you sure that after taking the herbs for three weeks you are really better?
MN: “Yes.”
Husband: “Now she can walk for some distance without any problem. Before she had difficulty after walking 10 metres.”
MN: “My husband had to massage my legs every day.”
Husband:”Every time after she walked I had to massage her legs. Now I don’t have to do that anymore. She had not recovered 100 percent yet but her health has recovered by some 75 percent now.”
MN:”I had coughs for a year. I did X-ray three times and I saw all these doctors. The cough persisted. I took your herbs for four days and the coughs were almost gone!”
Chris: Praise and be thankful to God for this blessing.
MN: “When I first came here in December and was in the hospital, there was this patient who also came from Medan. She came to my room and help massaged my legs. She felt sorry for me. My legs were numb. That was before I came to see you. After I took your herbs there was no need for anyone to massage my legs any more.”
Chris to Husband: Ho, ho, you don’t have to do any more work! Very good, very good.
NM and husband returned to Penang after taking three weeks of herbs. This was in January 2012. She underwent three days of treatment with the e-Therapy.
MN:”My health improved further. I don’t feel numb or tired anymore. Instead it is my husband who felt tired when we walked this morning.”
Chris: Oh no – I have to take care of your husband too?
8. You are Blessed!
Chris: You are indeed blessed. After seeing the oncologist in the hospital you all were disappointed because you could not find what you wanted from the hospital. You did not know where else to turn to. But a day later – after you prayed – an “angel lady” appeared and told you about CA Care.
Husband:”We were ready to go home “empty handed.”We did not have the funds to pay for such expensive treatment which we did not come for anway.”
Chris: Indeed it was a blessing from God. I fully understand the situation you are in.
9. Go Home and Be Careful – Take Care of Yourself
Chris: I am so happy that I am able to help you. This is my advice – please go home and take care of yourself well. Take care of your diet, exercise and take the herbs. My herbs are not magic but I believe they do help you.
MN and her husband returned to CA Care on 8 January 2012 and underwent the e-Therapy.
Watch this video.
After three weeks of herbs
She reported her health had improved:
Her coughs were almost gone – now she coughs once a while. Previously it was continuously.
She had more energy.
Her appetite improved.
The “heaty” feeling in the left side of her abdomen comes once in a while. Previously it was often.
Profuse sweating in the head was much less. Previously it was soaking wet and happened often, day and night.
She slept well. Before it was difficult.
Numbness of her fingers was gone but the numbness of her legs persisted although there was improvement.
She had more strength to walk. She could walk 100 metres without feeling tired. Previously even doing 10 or 20 metres was difficult.
The only problem she has now is a feeling of “ discomfort /numbness” in her right shoulder.
After first session of e-Therapy
She felt real good.
The body felt lighter.
Numbness of the legs was much less.
After second session of e-Therapy
She felt better.
Numbness of her legs had improved further.
Urination and bowel movements were better.
She had more energy.
She had no more coughs.
Discomfort in the left shoulder still persisted.
After third session of e-Therapy
The discomfort in the left should was gone.
Comments
Many Indonesian patients who come to seek our help need to travel from afar. We empathize with them. This is indeed a test of their commitment and a testimony of their real desire of wanting to help themselves. In contrast, we have phone calls and e-mails from patients who live just a few miles away and yet they complained that it is difficult to come and see us. They prefer consultation over the phone. Similarly we have patients from Sarawak, Sabah or Singapore who only want us to help them through the phone or internet. Unfortunately, we cannot help such patients. It is better that they go and seek help from herbalists nearby their homes. Life is easier that way – for them and also for us.
But for those like MN, who have travel so far to come and seek help, we pray that we never let them down. We shall do our utmost best to help them. Indeed this case is an example of a wonderful and rewarding effort that makes our day real great. We thank God for His blessings – and hope many more cases like this will continue to come by our way.
GK was a 70-year-old lady. In May 2000 she had vaginal bleeding. The doctor’s examination showed a large cauliflower growth involving the anterior lip of the cervix and also the vault at the vagina. A biopsy of the cervical growth was done and confirmed a moderately differentiated squamous cell carcinoma of the cervix, Stage 2A.
GK was asked to undergo radiotherapy. She declined. She started to change her diet. She came to seek our help on 10 August 2001, and presented with the following:
Pains in the back when walking.
Unable to sleep.
Constipation and sometimes with blood.
Watery discharge.
She was started on herbs – Capsule A, Utero-ovary, Cervical and C-teas. After a week on the herbs she reported some improvements. There was less blood in her stools. She slept better. She was more energetic. She was not constipated anymore. She felt hungry most of the time. She sweat a lot.
After another week on the herbs, there were more improvements. She could sleep well. She had good appetite, more energy and there was no more sweating. The discharge was much less.
She was on the road to recovery. And over the years she had no more pains No more blood in her stools and no more discharge. After this we did not get to see much of GK anymore.
In early 2005, her son came and told us GK had problems – the cancer had recurred.
Watch the video clips above – they were recorded on 9 November 2001, 6 September 2002 – when GK was doing so well. Then on 9 January 2005 and 3 February 2005 her son told us about his mother’s misadventure.
Sometime in November 2004, GK had the responsibility of taking care of her grandchild. This caused a lot of stress and gave her a lot of problems. She started to have headaches due to lack of sleep. She lost her appetite. She started to let go of her herbs. Then she went back to her previous “bad” diet and started to eat meat, etc.
In January 2005 – i.e., about two months after her “misbehavior,” she started to have bleeding again. She had difficulty or could not urinate and move her bowels.
Things got worse. She had vaginal discharge every hour and her pampers had to be changed often.
She started to take the herbs again – but that was a half-hearted effort. She used only 4 tablespoon instead of the usual six.
We lost contact with the patient and her son after this. We suspected she must have died some months later.
Comments
GK had survived about five years after her diagnosis. She did not die like the other patients who had the same type and stage of cancer who died sooner after undergoing radiotherapy and chemotherapy.
Every cancer story invariably end sadly. We come to learn that with cancer we can only loose, never win (depending on how you look at it). But in this case, I felt it was rather a sad and tragic ending. There was a choice – an early demise could have been avoided. Take away the stress of being the “nanny” to the grandchildren and sticking onto the path that she had been travelling over the past four years – GK could have lived longer.
In our Oriental culture, parents like to have many children. This is because they hope that one day when they grow old their children will be able to take care of them. This is true with the “old” Chinese custom. Today, the trend is reversed. The children are busy earning money, so they “make use” of their parents to run errand for them – take the kids to school, baby sit the children, clean the house, etc. This is understandable since each of us has to earn to make a living. But it is a little “incomprehensible” if one has to exchange a mother’s life for “convenience”. There could be a better arrangement than that.
The good side of this story is that GK did not have to suffer even if she had cancer. And she managed to live for about five years in spite of not following what the doctor wanted her to do. Just imagine what could have happened if she were to undergo radiotherapy as suggested. Read what happened to patients who had chemotherapy and /or radiotherapy for this kind of cancer. They suffered and some of them died sooner.
When you underwent chemotherapy, you were told that you had Stage 4 cancer. Did the oncologist tell you whether the chemo was going to cure you?
H: This was what the doctor told us after the surgery, “Remember you must go for chemo. You need to go for six cycles.” I still remember this was what he told us. Then he added, “You have Stage 4 cancer – you must go for chemo. Remember that.”
Did you ask him if the chemo can cure her?
H: At that time my impression was chemo would be able to cure her.
Did you suffer while undergoing chemotherapy?
Yes. I couldn’t sleep. Vomited and had pains until the bones.
H: On top of it, she was bald.
Becoming bald, that is a normal thing! Every three weeks you have one cycle of chemo. How long did your suffering last after each chemo.
One week of suffering. After I regained my strength I went in for another shot. I couldn’t eat and my body felt very tired. During that time I felt like dying. I could not carry anything and I was drained off my energy. After I recovered I have to go for another bang.
You had three cycles of chemo. Which is the more difficult – the first one or the second one?
The second was worse than the first one. But for the third cycle I was alright – that was after I started to take your herbs.
Oh, you started taking the herbs after your second chemo and just before your went for the third one?
Yes, before the third chemo. I took your Chemo Tea and also the Upper Pain Tea.
H: I still remember what you told me, “I am not pushing you to go for chemo. But I also do not tell you to stop the chemo. I don’t want the blame. But if you want to go for chemo then take the Chemo Tea. “ So she took your teas and went for her third chemo.
Did you suffer any side effects after that?
Very little.
H: I observed her. There was difference this time. Before the herbs she had to sleep and was in pain. After taking your herbs there was no more problem. That was what I observed – there was this difference.
Siti: One more thing doctor. During the first chemo and the second chemo, the doctor said my blood was not good. After taking the herbs for about a month or so, the doctor said my blood was good. That was what the doctor in the government hospital told me. But he did not know that I was already on your herbs. I have another problem when I was on chemo. I tend to forget things. I boiled water for hours and I did not remember that. When I boiled the herbs and then went upstairs, I had to pray and pray that I did not forget what I did.
That was what they called, “chemo-brain”. Now, it has been five years since you have chemo – do you still have this chemo brain?
Yes, once a while. I still tend to forget things.
H: But this problem was not as bad as previously. Before it was severe.
Who said you had Stage 4 cancer?
The surgeon who operated on me said so. I just met her last month (after five years). This is what she told me, “Patient who had cancer like you, ought to be sleeping on the bed and not able to walk around.” She was implying that I ought to be dead by now.
That was what she told you?
Yes, the specialist who operated on me. One day, my son was also admitted into the same hospital for his appendix problem. I was in the hospital and happened to meet the surgeon. She said, “ Siti, you are well?” Her tone and reaction showed me that she was really surprised that I am still alive. She then phoned another doctor and said (I hear her conversation): “You still remember Siti – a patient some four to five years back. She is still around!” Imagine what she said, I am still around and alive! Then she told me, “Siti, come back and let’s have a CT scan.” She persuaded me to come back to the hospital and do the scan. After thinking about it, I thought I should do the scan.
I went to do the CT scan. I was trembling at that time – very concerned if they would find something inside me. After the scan, the surgeon stared at me and said, “Congratulations – I could not find anything in there – not even a scar.”
Did the doctor ever ask you what you have been doing?
She did not ask much. She looked at me. I guessed she wanted to ask me something but was reluctant. I was not sure if she was shy or was ashamed or what.
But did she know that you are taking herbs?
Yes, I told her about that but she did not ask me for more details. After I was told of the CT scan result I said to her, “I want to go and tell Dr. Chris about this.” She asked me, “Who is Dr. Chris.” I replied, “The herbalist from Penang.”
You are indeed blessed. If you asked me then what I could do for you, I must admit I would not know what to answer. But let me remind you that even after surviving five years you are not cured yet. To the doctors surviving five years is considered “cure”. That is not true at all. Even if you survive ten years, it is still not a cure.
I want to thank you so much for helping me. I pray that your will continue to do this good work forever and ever to help our society.
Let us all praise God and be grateful to Him for his blessing. He gave me the knowledge to help others.
Our interview with Siti was done in 2005. She had been taking our herbs for the past five years.
All these are God’s blessing.
Husband: We are indeed grateful to Razuddin who “pushed” us so many times to come and see you. At first we were hesitant.
Because you did not believe in what we do?
H: Yes indeed – I don’t believe in your herbal therapy. But then Razuddin kept insisting and one day we fixed an appointment in my office. Then I relented and he drove us to Penang to see you.
Siti: When we came I was till undergoing my chemo.
H: She already had two cycles and was going on to the third. I still remember you tell me, “If you want to go for chemo, you can then take the Chemo Tea.” My wife took the Chemo Tea and she felt the difference! Before the herbs, she had pains, fevers and was unable to sleep due to the chemo. Before she started on the third cycle of chemo she took the Chemo Tea – three days before and three days after the chemo. She was alright – no problem. This result started to make us believe in what you are doing.
Well, as I have said, you are blessed. Whatever it is you received this blessing. There are people who missed on this. At CA Care we are not “hunting” for people to come and see us. Those who need our help can come – those who want us to help them, we will help. Those who don’t need our help – that’s fine.
H: I am indeed grateful to Razuddin for his insistence to bring us here to see you. If not for this repeated insistence we would not know you. It’s indeed God’s blessing. So the truth is, we started off being very skeptical about what you are doing – and we did not believe your therapy.
(Note: Razuddin is our colon cancer patient. He underwent surgery but refused chemo absolutely. He immediately started on our therapy and has been doing fine for many years now).
Siti, when you came to Penang that day, did you believe us at all?
I was doubtful – not sure at all. But after I started taking the herbs, I felt better and my health improved. I started to believe you.
After you started on the herbs, you gave up after the third cycle of chemo. Why did you give up chemo?
(Laugh)
H: She was getting better. There is no reason why we should go for anymore chemo.
The doctor was not angry with you for not continuing? Did he not call you to come back for the fourth shot?
Yes, the doctor kept calling me but I just did not turn up.
After taking the herbs, did you really feel better?
Yes, I felt my body was healthier. I have no more pains. I had more strength.
H: My wife had Stage 4 cancer. Most of my friends knew this. But after taking your herbs, these friends were really surprised to see her so well and healthy. Some of them were asking where to find your herbs. Some of these people have relatives who had undergone chemo – only one died recently.
Siti: My friend told me that I don’t look like a cancer patient. I don’t look like I am having cancer because I looked so well and healthy.
H: She did not show any symptoms that she had cancer.
How long were you on the herbs before you could feel that you were doing well?
After taking the herbs for about a year.
Apart from our herbs, did you take any other herbs or medication?
Only vitamin supplements. No other medication. Even when I was undergoing the third cycle of chemo, I did not take the doctor’s medication. I threw them away. I just took Dr. Chris’ herbs.
H: One more positive point. After taking the herbs we also went for the blood tests. The results were good. We repeated the test a few months later. The results were also good. So that increased our confidence in what you are doing. Now we are confident.
Siti was 48 years old when she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer Stage 4. She underwent a total hysterectomy in 2005 followed by three cycles of chemotherapy. She gave up chemo. At first Siti and her husband did not believe in what we at CA Care are doing. Many times, they were “pushed” by a friend to come and see us. Eventually Siti and her husband relented and came to Penang. From then on it was no turning back. Siti’s health improved. It has been seven years now and she is going well.
This video recording was done in 2010 – five years after she was started on the herbs.
Chris: How are you doing?
Siti: Thank God I am going fine – very well and healthy.
Any problem at all? Any pain?
No pain. But if I don’t take the herbs, I can feel some pains. But the pain is not serious. Just a little only. And after I take the herbs, the pains go away.
Have you gone back to see your doctor lately?
Yes, I saw the surgeon who operated on me. She said, “Thank God” I am clean – no recurrence.
Husband: The surgeon was very surprised.
Did the surgeon know that you did not complete your chemo? (Done only three out of six cycles).
I told the surgeon that I was taking Dr. Chris’ herbs from Penang. But the way she reacted, I felt she was reluctant to ask me for more details. I saw a few doctors were gathered together and they were talking about me and some were looking at me. The surgeon told me, “By right you should be lying in bed – Stage 4 cancer – should be lying in bed.” She looked at me in disbelief.
Since taking the herbs, did you also take care of your diet?
Yes.
And you took the herbs “religiously”?
Yes.
Exercise regularly?
No, I have problems with my knees. I only walked a little.
You have been on the herbs for five years now – since 2005 – tell me do you get “fed-up” taking this stuff?
What can I do? I have no choice. I have to take them. I am not going to stop. God has led me to find these herbs and they are good for my health. I am grateful and I should not feel “fed-up”.
FLASHBACK – 11 November 2005
Siti and her husband visited CA Care in Penang. They were accompanied by a friend, Razuddin,
About fifteen years ago, Siti underwent an operation to remove her fibroids. In 2005, her stomach bloated and she was later diagnosed with bilateral papillary serous cystadenocarcinoma of the ovaries with metastasis to the omentum.
At the time of this visit, Siti had received two cycles of chemotherapy and was to receive another cycle in six days’ time. Since Siti was not sure if she would like to take our herbs, I left it to her to decide if she wanted to continue with her third cycle of chemo. I prescribed her the Chemo-Tea in the event that she decided to continue with her chemo.
Siti presented with prickling pains in her abdomen. She was unable to sleep. She had pains in the middle of the top of her head. For her cancer I prescribed her Capsule A, Utero-ovary Tea, and T & E. For her headache she was given Upper Pain tea.
Why are we here? We are not here to die – there is a purpose in life. This is where the belief in God has to be very strong – to make you understand why you are in this world.
Do not ask God “why”, but “how” you can go through this.
Try to understand why this happened – examine your diet, your lifestyle and your environment.
If I were to get cancer again, this is what I would do – open my mind to new possibilities – to alternative medicines, herbs, etc. The options should not be confined to just chemo or radiotherapy.
What have you got to lose if you get to know more about cancer? The more you know the better prepared you are. Demystify cancer!
Now that you are alright – what would be your reaction if I say that you can go back to your old lifestyle again?
No way! For me it is no sugar, no Ovaltine, no Milo, no salt – since I am with you. There is no sugar in my house! No milk … brown rice. Most of my friends told me – Oh, my goodness, it is so difficult.
You have not missed your old lifestyle? No, I never missed that – I go on. I just continue growing. The perception is that the quality of things depends on what you did in the past. Excuse me I am enjoying my life. My standard of quality cannot be the same as I was before. I am now at a much higher level (of awareness). Right now my life is different. I enjoy things differently.
I don’t drink beer. I don’t drink any alcohol. I used to indulge in those things when I was with my friends. But now I still go out with them but I just drink my water! When I have dinner with them, they eat their food – pork and meat etc. but I have my own food! Why must someone impose their values on you? Their idea of quality of life need not be the same as yours.
My Comments
The healing path advocated by CA Care is not an easy path to follow. Healing does not come easy. Many patients write us e-mails everyday. What they are looking for is an “instant, magic bullet” believing that they can find “cure” to their problems by just sitting in front of the computer in the comfort of their home. Again I say, our healing path is not easy to follow. Don’t come to us if you are not prepared to change – change your diet, change your lifestyle and change your attitude. We cannot help you if you cannot change.
Dr. Dan Chesnut, M.D. (in Lying with Authority) said this, “Every person who was successful in finding safe alternatives decided at some point in their illness to open their mind to change and to learn solutions outside the accepted norms”.
May I add one more advice to cancer patients – Healing or curing cancer is not about undergoing chemotherapy or radiotherapy or taking of the so called “scientific” medicines. These alone are not enough or could even be disastrous. You can heal cancer by using you own common sense. If you are offered an invasive treatment that does not make sense to you – how do you respond to that? Healing cancer is all about educating yourself so you can stop doing the things that causes cancer and start doing the things that heal cancer. This means you need to take the responsibility of healing upon yourself and not passing on that responsibility to others or the “experts”.
It is my wake-up call. This is my experience. I now recognize that I am mortal. I recognize that I have done something wrong to my body or it may also mean that we are living in a wrong place. This is God telling us.
Before you had cancer, you never realize all these? No.
What was your impression about life then? Life is forever! You are forever young. Invincible. Solve the whole world’s problem – you are young and you are reckless. That is why I realized that this wake-up call is so important. Without cancer I would not be able to recognize this.
Wake up to reality – my body has changed, why haven’t I recognized that too?
After this wake-up call – what changes followed? Everything changed. Priority of life changed. In the past it was always work fist, now no more.
I am now more attached to walking with God. For every small thing, I talked to God. Everything that happened, I asked God and thank Him for it. Before I took too many things for granted. God probably would have told me, “I was with you all the time but you did not open your eyes to see Me.”
My commitment to society is stronger now. I cannot imagine the degree of corruption, the pollution to the environment – we are supposed to nurture them not creating problems.
In the past, I was compromising for the sake of “food security” – but that cannot be more of a fake statement.
I have cancer but I have hope. Yet there are others who lack hope or have no hope at all – why? This is because there are not empowered.
So cancer has changed my whole perspective of how I view my work. Also my family. Before work came first, family second. Now it has changed – family first. My family, I treasure them more.
My Comments
There are two kinds of people living in this world. One kind are those who believe there is no God – no divine purpose. We live in a world where things “just happen” randomly – perhaps just a coincidence. In contrast, another kind of people are those who believe that everything that happens for a reason. This is a part of the Grand Design.
I don’t know which group you belong to. Certainly we in CA Care and Peter are in the same group. We believe in God – our Heavenly Father.
Mira Kirshenbaum wrote a wonderful book, Everything Happens for a Reason. These are what she wrote,
My entire life now has been embraced by people struggling to find meaning for the events in their lives.
It’s taken me a long time, but I now see that even in the worst disaster, there are wonderful gifts, hidden opportunities or life-enhancing lessons. We see it in little ways or in not-so-little ways.
I want to assure you – When you discover the true meaning of the events in your life, everything changes.
You feel stronger because your sense that everything has meaning gives you great confidence.
You feel wiser because you see how everything connects.
You’re more in touch with who you are because you know that you’re living the life you were meant to lead.
And you’re happier because you’re able to put your loss behind you and have a sense of a future filled with good things.
Until you get to this place, nothing is going to feel right.
Dr. Bernie Siegel, M.D. (in Faith, Hope and Healing) said, “So-called curses can become blessings and an illness can help us come alive as human beings. Many people see their disease as a wake-up call that inspired them to literally begin their life anew.”
Admission of Our Own Mistakes
Indeed I feel sorry for those who lead a “blind” life – rushing through their journeys on earth, but not being able to learn anything from their experiences. If we are not prepared to look into ourselves we are not going to be able to go forward.
Scott Berkun (http://www.scottberkun.com/essays/44-how-to-learn-from-your-mistakes/) pointed out “if you courageously stand up and honestly say “This is my mistake and I am responsible” the possibilities for learning will move towards you. Admission of a mistake makes learning possible by moving the focus away from blame assignment and towards understanding. Wise people admit their mistakes easily. They know progress accelerates when they do.”
My radiologist was strongly against me taking herbs – NO herbs. She said there is no evidence that it is going to help. But I told her, “No evidence does not mean that it does not work!”
Later while on the treatment, I found that in cancer they are just talking about cure for five-years (i.e., 5-year survival rate). The doctor was very clear. She said after five years if the cancer comes back it is going to be a new cancer – a new disease. Meaning I collect another new cancer. Then patients will have to undergo a new treatment regimen all over again.
When I talked to God, He promises healing not cure. That was when an “angel” came into the picture and told me about you and the role of CA Care. Your role is about healing not curing.
I told the radiologist, “I am going for healing not cure”. She replied, “There is no such thing as healing.” She told me, “Our job is to cure you!” But look at the 5-year-survival rate of Stage 2 to 3 for this cancer. There is a 70 percent chance of survival – for five years and 30 percent will die within five years.
Before starting with the treatment, did you not ask the doctor about the survival rate? At that point in time, you don’t ask anything. You are more concerned with how to go forward. The assumption was that doctors know everything and they know what they are doing. And they will be able to cure me!
I did not realize all these important questions at that time because I was not yet there. But I went through with the treatment I began to ask questions. The initial impression given to me was that doctors have all the answers to my cancer. And they will be able to cure me. When I asked if there was a possibility of something might go wrong the answer was, “In NPC, this is the standard procedure with very good recovery rate.”
I assumed that doctors will tell you about all the side effects. My assumption was wrong!
At that time, I was looking forward to getting out of it, so there was no desire to go and find out what was going to go wrong with the treatment. No, no, we don’t do that.
My Comments
In life there are many things we take things for granted and we live with our assumptions. Often such assumptions are wrong! Peter had to learn it the hard way. The book that had opened my eyes to the dark side of modern medicine is the book by Robert Mendelsohn, Confessioin of a Medical Heretic. I think everyone should read this book. Dr. Mendelsohn was not any ordinary doctor. He was a director of Chicago’s Michael Reese Hospital and associate professor at the University of Illinois Medical School. Read what he said,
I believe that … the greatest danger to your health is the doctor who practices modern medicine…I believe that more than ninety percent of Modern Medicine could disappear from the face of the earth – doctors, hospitals, drugs and equipment – and the effect on our health would be … beneficial.
I believe that modern medicine’s treatment for disease are seldom effective and that they’re often more dangerous than the diseases they’re designed to treat.
If you are sick … your first defense is to have more information about your problem … You’ve got to learn about your disease and that’s not very hard. You can get the same books the doctor studied from. (Read them. It is most likely that after reading you will be more informed than the doctor himself).
Doctors in general should be treated with about the same degree of trust as used car salesman. Whatever your doctor says or recommends, you have to first consider how it will benefit him.
You should seek out and talk to people you regard as having wisdom. (Doctors tell you – don’t listen to the untrained, the quacks or pseudo-scientists). But Dr. Mendelsohn wrote, They are wrong – they are protecting their sacred authority. You may find that you can do without the doctor!
Unfortunately we live in the world where we are made to believe that modern medicine and its accompanying technology is proven and scientific. This is far from the truth. Dr. Peter Ooi is no “school kid” and he understands what science is. When the radiologist said there is no evidence that herb is going to help she is just being naïve – ignorant at best. Peter ‘s answer to her was right on the spot, “No evidence does not mean that it does not work!” If you don’t look for evidence – you find no evidence. And if you deliberately don’t want to find evidence you will not find one either. It is as simple as that!
Dr. Sydney Singer is a medical anthropologist. Read what he said.
In 1972, Dr. Samuel Epstein – one of the world’s authorities on chemical causes of cancer – told the US Senate Select Committee – “ In this country you can buy the data you require to support our case.”
Now, I hope you see some light.
Curing and Healing
There is a big difference between curing and healing. A cure is a successful medical treatment that removes all evidences of the disease. A cure is what the physician hopes to do and hopes to bring to the patient. For example, the liver is resected. The tumour is gone. That is supposedly to be a cure! Healing goes beyond curing. It is an inner process through which a person becomes whole. Healing takes place at physical, emotional, mental and spiritual levels. The capacity to heal physically is necessary for any successful cure but healing can also take place at deeper levels whether or not physical recovery occurs.
There are cancer patients for whom curative treatment ultimately proved impossible; yet inner-healing process takes place. Healing brings inner peace and a sense of connectedness with the Absolute One, thus makes a transformative difference in the quality of life. For those who have found inner peace, travelling the healing journey takes a new meaning. At that point, there may be pain but there is no suffering.
Dr. Bernie Siegel, M.D. (in Faith, Hope and Healing) said, ”Healing and curing are two very separate processes … when you focus only on the mechanical aspects of treatment and curing your disease while neglecting yourself and your life, you are expending your energy by engaging in a struggle and your life becomes more like a war than a process of healing.”
In the many years dealing with cancer patients I have to come to realize that you will not win fighting a “war” with cancer. You also cannot defeat cancer with your professional pride and ego. To win, cancer patients need to look inside themselves – know what their weaknesses are and then learn to live with their cancer.
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