Breast Cancer Part 1: Cancer Recurred Soon After Surgery, Gerson Therapy and Supplements

SN is a 40-year-old lady. Her problem started at the end of March 2016 when she found out that her right breast was swollen with rashes of the surface. There was also a lump in her right arm pit. A biopsy pn 29 March 2016 showed invasive ductal carcinoma.

At the time of this diagnosis, SN was breast feeding her baby. She did not immediately undergo any medical treatment, not until a few months later when her breast turned hard.

She started on an intensive Gerson Therapy in April 2016 based on the manual and Gerson Online Course. The therapy consisted of juicing, supplements and coffee/castor oil enema. She adopted a no salt, no oil (except flaxseed oil) diet.

SN was supposed to take 13 glasses of juices a day but she could only manage to take 8 glasses. She was supposed to do 5 times of coffee enema per day but she managed to do only 4 times a day.

She took the following:

Gerson supplements

  1. Acidol persin
  2. Potassium compound solution
  3. Lugol, half strength drop
  4. Niacin 50 mg
  5. Thyroid 2 grains
  6. Pancreatin
  7. B-12 tablet
  8. Dessicated liver
  9. CoQ10
  10. Selenium
  11. Milk thistle
  12. Inf-Zyme Forte (digestive enzyme)
  13. Colostrum
  14. Vitamin C 1000 mg
  15. Flaxseed oil

Other supplements

  1. Coconut oil
  2. Wheat germ oil
  3. Regulatpro Bio
  4. Wheat grass powder
  5. Chollera powder
  6. Chlorophyll powder
  7. Super blend wild berry by EzyProtein
  8. Natural raw food by Juvo
  9. Vitamin D 800IU
  10. Spirulina
  11. Garlic pill
  12. Probiotic powder

Spices / Herbs (dried)

  1. Oregano leaves
  2. Thyme leaves
  3. Dill leaves
  4. Tumeric powder
  5. Cayenne pepper powder
  6. Ginger powder
  7. Garlic powder 

All these went on for about one and a half month. It was a disaster after that! She ended up with a bloated stomach, vomiting and bad gastritis. Then she started to bleed for 2 weeks and had to be admitted into a hospital. In July, August and September, SN went in and out of the hospital for 5 times.

An endoscopy/colonoscopy was carried out. Nothing was found and the doctor said her intestine was just “too” clean.

USG of her right breast was done in May 2016 and showed multiple lesions, suspicious of malignancy.

  1. At 1.30 o’clock, 3-6 cm from nipple: a well-defined nodule with microcalcifications, 4.5 x 4.7 x 3.2 cm.
  2. At 1.00 o’clock, 6 cm from nipple: lobulated solid lesion, 2.3 cm in diameter.
  3. At 1.00 o’clock, 2 cm from nipple: deep seated nodule, measuring 1.8 x 1.2 cm.
  4. At 1.00 o’clock, 8 cm from nipple: 3 tiny nodules.
  5. At 1.30 o’clock, 6 cm from nipple: 9 x 6 x 9 mm nodule.
  6. At 1.30 o’clock, 10 cm from nipple: 8,2 x 6 mm nodule.
  7. At 11.00 o’clock, 4 cm from nipple: microlobulated nodule 2.2 x 3.8 cm.
  8. At 10.30 o’clock, 5 cm from nipple: 2 nodules, measuring 8 x 8.8 x 10 mm and 17 x 11 x 13 mm.
  9. At least 8 enlarged right axillary nodes, largest measuring 5.2 x 5.2 x 2.5 cm.
  10. 3 infraclavicular nodes measuring 11, 6.8 and 2 mm.\
  11. No focal solid or cystic lesions in left breast.
  12. No left axillary, left supraclavicular or infraclavicular abnormality.

On 2 June 2016, SN underwent a right mastectomy. Histopathology report confirmed an invasive ductal carcinoma with residual chest wall lesion. It was triple negative breast cancer — estrogen receptor negative, progestrone receptor negative and Cerb-B2 negative.

Her operation cost RM 33,000 (cover by health insurance!).

SN was asked to undergo follow-up chemotherapy. She refused.

Chris: Why did you not want to go for chemotherapy?

SN: I know of persons who had cancer and went to chemo. They all died. One was a breast cancer lady, about 50 + years old. After surgery she had chemo and was on an oral drug. Six years later the cancer came back and she died within a year. The second case was my Aunty. Also 50 + years old. It was tongue cancer and two-third of her tongue was removed. She had no chemo but underwent 30 sessions of radiotherapy. The cancer came back. She went for an “oxygen bath” in Hungary. She died within a year.

My grandma was 80 + years old. She had ovarian cancer. She underwent a hysterectomy, but no chemo. She died within 2 years.

C: I understand the phobia you have.

SN came to see us in October 2016. The cancer had recurred.


Mastectomy did not cure her cancer. Gerson Therapy and all kinds of supplements did not cure her cancer. I told SN, My herbs would not cure your cancer as well. It is indeed a very, very difficult case to handle. I suggest that you try chemotherapy!



Part 2: Go for chemotherapy!

Part 3: Did chemo helped her?



Breast Cancer with Extensive Metastasis: Herbs and e-Therapy Helped Her. Declined Everolimus and Tamoxifen.


SG is a 69-year-old female. In June 2015, she had persistent fevers. A family member discovered that she had a wound on her right breast which she kept it to herself.

SG was brought to a hospital. A scan showed:

  • A 5.6 x 2.5 cm mass in her right breast.
  • Multiple right axillary and right subpectoral adenopathies.
  • Multiple scattered pulmonary metastases.
  • Nodules in her liver.
  • Extensive bony metastases.

A biopsy of the breast mass was done. Immunochemistry confirmed invasive carcinoma, ER +, Pr + and c-erb-B2 -ve. The ulcerative lesion was fixed to the chest wall.

A CT scan of the brain showed:

  • Patchy sclerosis of the entire skull suspicious for diffuse bony metastases, with more focal lesions inthe right frontal and left temporal bones.

There was nothing much the doctors could do. Surgery was not indicated because the cancer was stuck to the chest wall. SG was given Femara (letrazole) to take every day. In addition she received Denosumab (Prolia, Xgeva) injection for her bone. Initially the medication shrunk the tumour but with time Femara was not effective anymore. Femara was changed to Tamoxifen.

SG’s daughter wrote:

  • Tamoxifen caused her to lose some weight and appetite. Recently the doctor wanted her to try Everolimus (Afinitor) + Exemestane (Aromasin).
  • We have read that these have side effects, some serious ones and so far have not tried.
  • Mum has even stopped Tamoxifen and just go on your herbs. She said feels better and can eat better.
  • If she relied on just herbs, is there a need to review the types that she is taking?
  • So far, other than right breast and bones, other parts of the body are still ok.
  • Her cancer markers did go up somewhat at the last blood test.
  • She’s diligently taking the herbs and is more comfortable with them than the western medicine.

SG decided not to take any more doctor’s medication, due to the possible side effects.

Everolimus was first used for kidney cancer. Now, its usage has been extended to breast cancer. To know the side effects of Everolimus, click this link:

  1. You may develop lung or breathing problems.In some people lung or breathing problems may be severe, and can even lead to death.
  2. You may be more likely to develop an infection,such as pneumonia, or a bacterial, fungal or viral infection. Symptoms of infection may include the following: fever, chills, skin rash, joint pain and inflammation, tiredness, loss of appetite, nausea, pale stools, dark urine, yellowing of the skin, pain in the upper right side of the stomach.
  3. Possible increased risk for a type of allergic reaction called angioedema.
  4. You may develop kidney failure.In some people this may be severe and can even lead to death.
  5. Delayed wound healing. AFINITOR can cause incisions to heal slowly or not heal well.
  6. Mouth sores (also called ulcers), occurring in 67% of patients taking AFINITOR. These can sometimes be severe and can appear as early as within the first 2 weeks of treatment or can occur at any time.


All these side effects come with a cost of SGD 800 per week (RM2,400/week or almost RM10K per month).

As if the Afinitor side effects are not enough, here are more side effects if you take exemestane or Aromisin.

  • new or unusual bone pain;
  • vision problems;
  • swelling in your hands or feet;
  • feeling short of breath, even with mild exertion; or
  • chest pain, sudden numbness or weakness, sudden headache, confusion, problems with vision, speech, or balance.
  • hot flashes;
  • headache, tired feeling;
  • anxiety;
  • joint pain;
  • upset stomach;
  • depressed mood;
  • sleep problems (insomnia); or
  • increased sweating.

SG and her family came to our centre. She brought along a medical report which said, “Right thigh soft tissue tumour.”

She was okay but her daily life was not comfortable — it could be better! She complained of pains in her legs, backache, lack of strength and sometimes lack of appetite. She had stopped taking the doctor’s medication.

Since we have given all the herbs that we have for all her cancer(s) —- she had cancer in her breast, lymph nodes, lung, liver, bone and soft tissue of her thigh — I have no other choice but to ask SG to try the e-therapy. May be this may help her!

After day one on the detox program, SG said she felt lighter and her movements loosened up — did not feel tight any more.

The next morning, when she came for the second detox program, her daughter said she could lift up her foot. She was better.

After the second detox program SG said she had no more pain! All problems gone! In fact she could bend down. This morning she climbed up the stairs of her apartment. These are things she could not do before.

Every member of her family was happy and said SG’s facial appearance was much better!

Listen to what she said.

One question I posed to the family. Why don’t you want to continue with the medical treatments. After all you have access to the best medical treatment in your country.

The answer is simple — the drastic side effects.

And what is more, one death in the family circle is enough. SG’s sister-in-law had primary breast cancer and also a primary lung cancer. She took Iressa. Of course she suffered some side effects like rashes and painful, distorted nail growth.

Initially Iressa shrunk the tumour in the lung but it grew back again (like Femara did for SG). The doctor gave her chemotherapy with Cisplatin and Alimta. She had radiation to her brain. Her condition deteriorated and she died.

Chris: Is this why you don’t want give more drugs to your mother?

Daughter: Because of the possible side effects.

C: Did your Aunt’s treatments until she died also made you more careful?

D: Possibly.

C: My experience — some people just don’t learn!


If you have come to an end stage where taking medicine is just a matter of try-and-see-if-it-works, would you want to take that “fishing trip’? Some people would like to fight until death — don’t give up! But some people understand that flogging a dead horse is to buy more misery. Your choice!

We are indeed glad that SG came to us this morning. It was a blessed morning indeed. Her quality of life was restored. She did not look sick anymore.

I always tell patients this: If you can eat, can sleep and can move around without any ache or pain, what else do you want? Continue to live a good life and don’t think too much of your disease. The more you take those toxic drugs the more miserable you would become.

If you don’t read SG’s medical records, you would never think that (as of this morning) she has cancer at all. Praise God for this wonderful blessing.



Breast Cancer: RM 200,000-treatment did not cure her


AZ is a 45-year-old Indonesian lady. In early 2012, she had a swelling in her left breast. She went to a doctor in Palembang and did a biopsy. The result: not malignant! AZ did nothing after that.

In November 2012, AZ went to a private hospital in Melaka for a second opinion. She was told that she had cancer. A left mastectomy was immediately done on 21 November 2012. It was a Stage 3A cancer. Six out the 16 lymph nodes were found to be infected with cancer. The tumour was positive for estrogen, progesterone receptors and CerbB2 oncoprotein.

AZ underwent follow-up treatments: 6 cycles of chemotherapy, 25 sessions of radiation and was started on Tamoxifen. She had been taking Tamoxifen since 2012 until now.

AZ was well, but was not cured. About four years later, February 2016,  AZ felt pain in her left chest. Her surgeon said there was nothing wrong with her! However, AZ consulted another doctor in the same hospital. A lump was found in her chest.


Impression: An active node, probably metastatic, is present in the left supraclavicular region. No other suspicious lesion is detected elsewhere.

AZ underwent another operation to remove the node in her chest. The histopathology report confirmed a recurrent invasive ductal carcinoma. AZ underwent another round of chemotherapy consisting of 6 cycles of oral Xeloda plus 6 cycles of Herceptin. In addition, she received another 25 sessions of radiation.

AZ was told that she had to monitor the progress of her cancer by doing PET scan every 5 months or twice a year!

A PET scan done on 24 October 2016, showed more tumours developed. In short, all the previous done failed.


  1. The hypermetabolic node in the left supraclavicular region is much less active.
  2. Two small hypermetabolic lesions have appeared in 2 ribs of the left side.
  3. In the hilar region, there are a few new hypermetabolic nodes of about 1.0 to 2.0 cm.
  4. In the lower mediastinum, there is a hypermetabolic nodules of less than 1.0 cm.
  5. Several small metastases have appeared in the lungs.

AZ was asked to see her oncologist. She refused to return to the hospital again.




Chris: Before the operation, did you ask if surgery was going to cure you?

Patient: The doctor said must operate. Then go for chemo and radiation. Only then can we know if I am going to be cure or not.

C: Did you ask the oncologist, if chemo was going to cure you?

P: The doctor said, “Tak pasti” (not sure!).

PET scan

P: Doctor told me to come back for routine check-up and do a PET scan every 5 months.

C: What? Every 5 months? Do you know about radiation risks? If I ask you to go for a chest X-ray one time today, is that okay? Yes. But if I ask you to go for an X-ray 800 times a day, you will say I am mad, right? What if I say go 2,000 times of chest X-rays today. I must be real crazy.


Total cost of treatment

C: For all the treatments that you have undergone, how much did you have to spend?

Husband: About RM 200,000.

C: Wah, that is about the cost of a piece of land or a house?

H: Yes, the cost of a house.

Don’t want to see my oncologist anymore

C:  What did the doctor want you to do now?

P: I don’t want to do anymore chemo — so far not effective at all. I don’t want to go back and see my doctor anymore. I suffered when I did the previous chemo.

C: I understand. And are you still taking the Tamoxifen?
P: Yes, until yesterday.

CA Care Therapy

C: Who ask you to come here?

H: A friend from Jambi. He had lung cancer and came to see you. Followed your therapy and he is now well — healthy.

C: You need to know that there is NO cure for cancer. I cannot cure your breast cancer. I don’t want to mislead my patients about this. But if I can help you to live a healthy life without problem, then that may be possible. You cannot ask for more. The doctor said you can eat anything  you like. No, I am going to tell you that you have to take care of your diet. You cannot eat anything you like. Keep to a healthy diet and lifestyle. What I can do is to try and help you but you must learn how to help yourself. As to how long you live, God decides.





Mastectomy cost RM 10K in Penang, RM 20K in Indonesia. Your choice!


In an earlier posting, Breast Cancer: Go for a mastectomy!  we wrote about Jane, a 42-year-old Indonesian lady who had a lump in her breast. We requested her to go and see Dr. Y at Z hospital or Dr. C in D hospital. Jane first went to Dr. Y but he was not available and Jane proceeded to see Dr. C at D hospital. She did not have to wait long to see Dr. C.  The next day, Jane had her mastectomy. Jane was discharged after two days in the hospital. However, she had to see her surgeon again every other day to ensure everything was okay.

After a week, Jane came back to see us again.

The following are the gist of our conversation.

Chris: Did the doctor talk to you nicely? Are satisfied the way he treated you?

Jane: Yes, good.

C: Did the doctor do another CT scan or biopsy before he operated on you?

J: No.

C: How much was the total cost of your treatment?

J: Everything came to about RM 10,000.

C: Before you came here, you went to a hospital in Surabaya. Did you ask what it would cost you to do the surgery in Surabaya.

J: IDR 50 million – approximately RM 20,000.

C: Aside from the cost, which do you prefer – to do surgery in a Penang hospital or Surabaya hospital? Think about the cleanliness, the way things are done, etc.

J: I prefer Penang hospital.

C: I am real glad that we can help you choose the right doctor in the right hospital. I know from patients’ feedback that Dr C. who you went to is very competent to handle your case. He is also a nice person.


Let it be known that I do not know Dr. C or Dr. Y personally. Professionally yes, because I have sent many patients to see them and most of the time the feedback from our patients have been very positive. I do not earn any “referral fee” for sending patients to see these doctors. We spend time giving advice to patients without charge. The real reward we get is to see our patients happy and satisfied and are being attended to by competent and compassionate doctors. That is far more rewarding than money.

I am also glad to note that Dr. C did NOT perform a repeat CT scan or biopsy on Jane. I have also cautioned Jane to decline such procedures if asked to do so. The reason is simple. She had done all these in a hospital in Surabaya. So there is no reason why Jane had to be subjected to additional testing which would incur additional costs. Perhaps you may think it is to be expected or a logical thing — why repeat?

Unfortunately, not all hospitals are that “logical.” There was a case of an oncologist in Singapore who told a patient that he would NOT accept the results of the MRI she did a week ago in a Malaysian hospital. The patient must repeat the MRI in his hospital! What do you think of such an attitude? And what do you think of the result of the repeat? SAME! The effect on patient? Patient was left with a bigger hole in her bank account. And the tragedy of all is the end result — patient died after spending RM 500,000 for her treatment in Singapore.





CanSurvive Workshop 17 September 2016: Sharing Our Experiences


The second part of the workshop was about sharing experiences. We were glad to have six panelists to come on stage to share their experiences. Here are what they said:

  1. Truth from different perspectives


  1. My first patient (prostate spread to bone) did well on herbs

 3. I am glad that I am still alive (NPC spread to bone)

4. I outlived my two doctors (cancer of the tonsil)


5. Twelve years – I am still healthy and full of energy (colon-liver cancer)


  1. Let me make my own decision: No chemo for me! (ovarian cancer)


  1. I want to be beautiful when I die. But with herbs and good diet I am still alive and healthy (breast cancer)


Thank you for sharing and praise God for this blessing!




After Tamoxifen, there was endometrial -endocervical polyp



Laura (not real name) is a 35-year-old Indonesian lady. In May 2014, she found lumps in her right breast and armpit. She consulted a doctor in Jakarta who told her not to worry. It was not dangerous! Not satisfied, Laura went to Singapore for a second opinion.

Laura was told that she had breast cancer. In Singapore she underwent an operation to remove both her breasts, followed by breast reconstruction. The total cost of these procedures came to about SGD 50,000.

The histopathology report showed that:

  1. Nine out of twenty seven lymph nodes showed metastatic tumour, both intra and extranodal.
  2. The tumours were positive for estrogen, progesterone and c-erb-B2.

Laura underwent six cycles of chemotherapy and this was done in Jakarta while 15 sessions of radiotherapy was done Singapore.  After these treatments, Laura was put on Tamoxifen and she had been taking it up to this day.

Everything seems to go on well and Laura asked to return to Singapore every four months for routine checkup.

Someone in the United States then told Laura about CA Care. So in May 2016, Laura and her husband came to seek our help. We prescribed her some breast herbs besides telling her to take care of her diet.

Laura and her husband came back to see us again five months later, October 2016. She showed us the results of her recent blood test (29 September2016). Every parameter was within normal range except her CA 125 which was elevated to 48.1 (normal below 35.1). According to her husband this elevated reading could be because Laura did a PET scan before performing the blood test. Well, a good explanation for now!

However, what is most disturbing was that, a few days earlier, on 24 September 2016, Laura underwent an operation to remove an endometrial-endocervical polyp.

Chris: Did you ask the doctor why you have that polyp?

Laura: The doctor said it is the side effect of Tamoxifen that I am taking.

C: And you are still taking the Tamoxifen? You do not stop the Tamoxifen?

L: I am still taking Tamoxifen.

Our Advice

We reminded Laura and her husband to be aware of what she is doing! Tamoxifen had probably reared its ugly head and they don’t even realise the danger. You just need to read to be better informed.

Read what Dr. Janey wrote:

Treating cancer with a carcinogen!! Yes, you read that right … Tamoxifen is a carcinogen! I bet your doctor didn’t mention that to you?

  • Australia’s National Health and Medical Research Council (NHMRC)  stated that no amount of Tamoxifen is safe with regards to its carcinogenic effect.
  • In California, the Carcinogenic Identification Committee voted unanimously in May 1995 to add Tamoxifen to their list.
  • Health Organisationfollowed in 1996 by officially designating Tamoxifen (along with 70 other chemicals) as a human carcinogen.
  • Even the pharmaceutical company, Zeneca, who promote and sell Tamoxifen, has had to confess that it is a liver carcinogen.
  • Tamoxifen is responsible for increasing the risks of cancer in the uterus and liver.
  • In addition, cancers of the 2ndbreast as well as cancer of the gastrointestinal tract have also been associated with Tamoxifen treatment. 

You need to ask yourself if you consider it acceptable to try and suppress one cancer with a drug that puts you at risk of developing other cancers.

Read more:

Read also an article by Dr. Sherrill Sellman, Tamoxifen: A Major Medical Mistake?


Ponder seriously the following quotations:





No More Tamoxifen for Me


2015: Rose (not real name) is a 39-year-old Malaysian lady. She and her family came to seek our advice. Unfortunately, Rose is the third person in the family who had breast cancer. Rose’s mother had breast cancer and underwent surgery, chemo and radiotherapy. The treatments were done in Australia. She died. Then, Rose’s sister had breast cancer. After surgery she opted to take herbs and not follow her mother’s footstep. She is doing fine.

In early 2015, Rose was also diagnosed with breast cancer. She underwent a lumpectomy. This procedure was done in Australia. After the surgery, her Australian doctor put her on Tamoxifen, which is generally to be taken for 5 to 10 years. Unfortunately  after some discussion, Rose’s husband (an Australian) decided that Rose should not to take herbs — go for the Tamoxifen instead. After all, this was what the medical doctor ordered anyway.

April 2016: Rose came to our centre again. This time alone. She told us that she had been taking the Tamoxifen for a year and had decided to stop that drug. Why? She suffered the following ill effects:

  1. Hot flashes a few times a month and each episode lasted a few days.
  2. Cramps of the legs and abdomen.
  3. Nausea which came with the cramps.
  4. Whitish vaginal discharge.
  5. Forgetfulness which stressed her.

Rose also said she cannot get pregnant and she has no children yet. Also from her readings, she and her husband learned that Tamoxifen can cause another cancer — probably uterine cancer.

Chris: Did you go back to your doctor and ask what to do with the ill effects of Tamoxifen?

Rose: The doctor prescribed anti-nausea medication.

This is our advice to Rose: You and your husband will have to make the final decision whether you want to continue taking Tamoxifen or not. We would not participate in your decision.


In our book, Breast Cancer: Perspectives of Medical Science and Holistic Healing, we wrote: 

Women on Tamoxifen may suffer from the following side effects: 

  1. Hot flashes as in menopause. About 50% of women may experience this.
  2. Nausea and/or vomiting.
  3. Vaginal dryness and/or discharge.
  4. Depression and mood swings. It is still uncertain if this is directly due to Tamoxifen or other factors.
  5. Loss of energy. This is similar to loss of energy in menopause.
  6. Memory loss. There is still no clear evidence to attribute this effect directly to Tamoxifen.
  7. Difficulty to concentrate.
  8. Menstrual irregularity in pre-menopausal women.
  9. Amenorrhea or absence of menstruation in pre-menopausal women.
  10. Skin rashes.
  11. Blood clotting problems. About 1% of women on Tamoxifen may experience blood-clotting problems. So women with thromboembolic diseases should not take Tamoxifen!
  12. Blurred vision and eye damage. Six percent of women on Tamoxifen have ocular toxicity causing cataracts, abnormalities of the cornea or retina, blurred vision and also eye damage.
  13. Triggers asthma attacks on some sensitive patients.

Perhaps the above side effects, although objectionable to many women, do not pose as a deep concern or fear as the possibility of inducing more cancers in other parts of the body after a prolonged intake of Tamoxifen.

Yes, Tamoxifen can cause new cancer in your body! Watch out for the next posting.





Breast Cancer: Go for a mastectomy!


Jane (not real name) is a 42-year-old Indonesian from Surabaya, Indonesia. About two months ago she felt a lump in her right breast. She went to consult a doctor in a private hospital in her hometown. An USG indicated a 32 x 30 x 18 mm solid mass at 10.30 o’clock of the right breast. The doctor suspected cancer which had probably spread to the lymph nodes of the arm pit. Her left breasts was normal.

A biopsy was done on 5 September 2016 and the results suggested:

  1. Infiltrating ductal carcinoma, right breast.
  2. Suspicious lymphadenopathy right axilla.

The doctor in Surabaya suggested that Jane remove her whole right breast. She decided to seek a second opinion and came to consult a doctor in one of Penang’s cancer hospital. A CT of the body was done.


  1. There is a 5.7 x 3.2 cm enhancing lesion in right breast, suggestive of breast tumour.
  2. Right axillary lymph nodes.
  3. Uterine fibroids.

The doctor in Penang also suggested surgery to remove her breast. In early October 2016, Jane came to seek our advice.

These are what we told her this morning:

  1. The scan and the biopsy confirmed that this is malignant. The best option is to have the right breast removed.
  2. To avoid, unnecessary problems later, a mastectomy should be done — not a lumpectomy. The tumour is too big for a lumpectomy any way.
  3. In fact, Jane should not have gone to the “cancer hospital” when she first came to Penang. This cancer hospital only offers chemo or radiation to patients, besides scanning. So why incur unnecessary cost? Jane should have gone to a hospital that has doctors to do the surgery (which the “cancer hospital” does not offer).
  4. What hospital to go to and which surgeon should do the surgery? This is what Jane wanted to know. Based from the feedback of our patients, we suggested the following:
  5. Go and see Dr. Y at Z hospital. He is cheaper and can do a good job.
  6. If Jane prefer another doctor, then Dr. C from D hospital is another option. He is a breast specialist. But the cost of the procedure would be higher.
  7. Bring the USG, biopsy and CT scan to the surgeon and discuss with him what he can do to help. Make a request that the surgeon go ahead with the surgery. To save cost, ask not to undergo anymore scanning or biopsy again. Anyway, there is a lump in her breast — whether it is cancerous or not, Jane must have it removed.
  8. Based on the meeting with Jane and her doctor, she should decide which doctor or hospital is more suitable for her. If she is not happy with the doctor during the consultation, then our advice is go and find one who is more caring and compassionate. Don’t worry. There are many doctors in Penang! So make your right choice.
  9. It is better that Jane do the surgery in a hospital in Penang than in Surabaya. Costs of treatment in a Penang hospital is far cheaper than that of the hospitals in Indonesia. In addition, patients told us that Penang hospitals are cleaner and more organised.
  10. Our final advice — go and talk to the surgeon. Then make up your own mind, who and where you want to do the surgery. Even though we advised Jane to see Dr. Y and/or Dr. C we made it clear to Jane what we do not benefit from this advice. We don’t get any “referral fee” and we also do not know these doctors personally. We do this purely out of our desire to help another fellow being in need.
  11. Our “consultation fee” this morning for talking almost an hour is “zero”! God bless.

We shall give you an update if Jane comes back to see us again after her mastectomy.







Breast Cancer: She died after three shots of chemo

Mas (not real name) was a 44-year-old Malaysian lady. In May 2015, she felt a lump in her left breast and did not bother about it. About 7 months later, in December 2015, she went for a check-up. Why did you go for a check-up? Just to know what it was. An ultrasound and mammogram confirmed breast cancer. Mas also had pains in her backbone and a CT scan showed the cancer had spread to her bones and liver.

Mas underwent a mastectomy in January 2016.  In February 2016, Mas was started on chemotherapy (drugs: EC). The treatment was scheduled for 6 cycles but after 3 cycles the doctor stopped the treatment because of her deteriorating liver function.  Blood test on  22 March 2016 showed ALP = 455 (high), ALT = 96.1 (high) and AST = 200.4 (high).

Mas and her family came to seek our help in late April 2016. She was prescribed herbs for breast and liver.


A few weeks later Mas’s cousin to seek our help. At the same time informed us that Mas had passed on about 2 weeks after her visit to us. Mas benefited from taking our herbs. She felt much better.

This is indeed a sad story. But can we learn anything from such a tragedy. Let me quote what others say and leave them there for you to ponder on deeply.

Michael Gearin-Tosh was, for 35 years, a tutor in English at St Catherine’s College, Oxford. But he became famous as the author of Living Proof – A Medical Mutiny (2002) in which he described how he had challenged the medical establishment after he was diagnosed with myeloma (cancer of the bone marrow) in 1994.

He was given six months to live. He was told to undergo chemotherapy.

13 Pull-by-the-nose

Gearin-Tosh discovered that, according to one cancer statistician, chemotherapy brought significant hope of survival to just four per cent of patients with the same cancer, and that many doctors would not prescribe it for themselves. His conclusion was simple: “Touch it, and you are a goner.” Instead he embarked on a series of “alternative” treatments.  Confounding the medical prognosis, he survived a further 11 years and when he did eventually die (on 29 July 2005, at age 65), it was from a blood infection rather than cancer.

Living Proof triggered angry responses from doctors and from patients undergoing chemotherapy. Some accused him of peddling false hopes and ignoring statistics which indicated a higher survival rate for patients given chemotherapy. “If there was anything in this stuff,” wrote one consultant physician, “don’t you think that the medical profession would have grasped these ‘cures’ with both hands years ago?” But for others Gearin-Tosh was living proof that alternative therapies do work, and that it is possible not to be dehumanised by the disease or its specialists.


Let’s do some calculation!

Gearin-Tosh was given 6 months to live. He refused chemotherapy and opted for alternative therapies. He went on to live for another 11 years before he eventually died of blood infection (and not cancer).

In May 2015, Mas found  lump in her left breast. Eight months later, she had an operation to remove her whole breast. Even with cancer growing in her, she was still alive but of course with some discomforts and anxiety.

In February 2016, Mas was started on chemotherapy. Three months later, she was dead.

Is it not better to just learn how to live with the cancer and not do anything? Gearin-Tosh reasoned: Why treat if you cannot cure?

Is doing nothing a better option?

Dr. Atul Gawande is a surgeon and professor at Harvard Medical School. He shared his thought as below:


Before you folks undergo chemotherapy, do you ever ask what the treatment can do to you?

4 Chemo die OK if follow protocol






If you don’t take care, you will die. Your husband can find a new wife!

Sixty-two-year-old WG is from Indonesia. She came to see us in October 2012. Her problem started after she found 2 lumps in her right breast about 3 years ago. She did not consult any doctor then. She took Chinese herbs for a few months. The lumps grew bigger.

In October 2012, WG came to  Penang and consulted a doctor in a private hospital. The doctor suggested a mastectomy. She was told that the cost of the surgery would come to about RM 4,000 and she has to stay in the hospital for about 5 days.

After seeing the doctor WG came to seek our advice. These are what we told her:

  • Yes, she should go ahead with her surgery.
  • The doctor whom she met was also the “right” doctor. So there is no reason to go “shopping” elsewhere.
  • Tell the doctor not to do any biopsy — just remove the whole right breast right away.
  • After the surgery, she could come back with all the medical reports and we shall then decide what to do.

WG went for surgery as suggested. The total hospital expenses came to RM 4,800 and she stayed in the hospital for 8 days.

The histology report dated 16 October 2012 indicated the following:

  • A well defined solid necrotic tumour measuring 45 x 30 x 30 mm.
  • The subareolar tissue contains a cystic tumour with papillary structures measuring 30 x 30 x 20 mm.
  • One out of 8 lymph nodes shows metastatic deposits of tumour.
  • The tumour is negative for estrogen, progesterone and c-erb-B2 receptors.
  • Stage 3 B — T4bN1 Mx.

WG had a metastatic triple negative cancer. The doctor suggested that WG undergo follow-up chemotherapy. She refused and came back to seek our help. She was started on herbs and was told to take care of her diet.

The following are the blood test results over the years.

table blood test

In April 2016, WG came to Penang for a routine check-up. It has been more than 3 years since her breast surgery. Over the years her blood test seemed to be satisfactory (see table above) We have always cautioned her about her diet — Do not eat anything you like! Take care of your diet. Unfortunately, our plea did not get into her head! She admitted at times she did “curi makan” (eat the forbidden food), but not often.

Since our message did not seem to sink into her, we had to be more blunt but we tried to pass that message in a jovial and joking manner. We are glad that WG and her husband took our message in good spirit. Listen to your conversation that day.

Chris: Your liver function does not look good (table above, April 2016). Did you take care of your diet? Never pantang?

WG: Yes, I ate bad food once a while. If I don’t eat my legs and hands felt numb.

C: Well, I really don’t know what I can do. You have survived more than 3 years now. It is good that you can live that long. Some breast cancer patients would not even last that long. So please take care of yourself. I can’t really do much. So learn how to take care of yourself. Please don’t eat too much of bad food!

WG: Eat also die, don’t eat also die!

C: So, go home and eat what you like and then die faster after that.

WG: Yes, better die sooner so that I don’t have to come and see you anymore.

C: Good, you don’t have to disturb me also. So, go home and eat a lot of bad food and die faster.

GW: I also don’t have to spend any more money.

C: Ah, your husband can find a new wife. Prettier and younger one some more! See, uncle is smiling.


It is most unfortunate that most cancer patients feel that they are “cured” after being alive and well for 2 to 3 years. They often go back to their own lifestyle and diet. No one likes to know or be reminded that the cancer can recur. Unfortunately, cancer does recur in most cases. A study in Italy showed that the critical year for recurrence is at the 2nd and 5th year. And cancer does not go away even after 15 years!

Breast Cancer Recurrence paattern

Most patients are being taught to believe that after 5 years they are “cured.” This is NOT true. My aunty died when her cancer recurred 13 years after an apparent “cure”. Last month, a breast cancer patient suffered recurrence after 14 years. Read what Dr. Susan Love has got to say:

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Breast Cancer: Six years without chemo, radiation or hormone. Happy, happy only!

ES was 49 years old when she was diagnosed with an invasive lobular carcinoma. The lump in her right breast was small, 15 x 10 x 10 mm. ES came to Penang for surgery. The doctor did a wide excision with right axillary sentinel node biopsy. The tumour was cleanly removed with margins clear of tumour. The four sentinel nodes removed from the armpit were also free of tumour.

The tumour was positive for estrogen and progesterone receptors  and negative for c-Erb-2.

Medical reports

Medical reports 2

After the surgery, ES was asked to undergo follow-up treatment of chemotherapy, radiotherapy and oral medication, Tamoxifen. ES flatly refused and opted for CA Care Therapy instead. The doctor was unhappy her. He warned ES, I am your doctor. If you don’t want to go for chemo as I told you, I am responsible if anything happens to you. You take that risk.

ES went back to her doctor every year for check up. For the first two years, the doctor kept insisting that ES should go for chemo. At the third annual visit, the doctor stopped “pushing” ES to go for chemo.

ES went to see her doctor again in April 2016 — six years after the operation. The meeting with the doctor and an ultrasound cost her RM 212.00, The doctor said, Good. He was aware that ES was taking herbs instead of the chemo he had suggested. No, he did not  ask ES about this “alternative treatment.”

Below is our conversation with ES and her husband in May 2016.

Some main points of our conversation:

Chris:  Did the herbs help you?

ES: Yes. My blood pressure became normal, before it was always low, 90/60. I felt healthier.

C: During your six years after surgery, do you experience any problem?

ES: No. Happy, happy only.

C: Now, did you ever worry that the cancer can come back again?

ES: Before in the first two years or so, yes. Now, I have no fear.

C: Some patients are reluctant to take the herbs after some years. What actually is the problem?

ES: Lazy to brew them!


What could have happened if ES were to undergo chemotherapy, radiotherapy and took Tamoxifen as suggested by her doctor):  Would her six years after surgery be a “happy, happy only” life?

  1. What would happen if she had chemo and radiation? Surely, she had to spend a lot of money. In addition she would suffer side effects. Seriously or not, no one could predict.
  2. Would she be able to have problem-free life after chemo and radiation? That depends on your “luck” (according to one onco).

Chemo did you ask

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3   Recent research result has shown that about 50% of women with breast cancer have been receiving chemo that they don’t need! So, is chemo given to women just as a matter of routine or SOP (standard operating procedure)?

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Surgery and Chemotherapy Did Not Cure Their Breast Cancer: Equally A Big Mistake?

Lately, we encountered many breast cancer cases. Indeed pathetic. By sharing these stories with you, we hope that those who come after this unfortunate patients, can learn and understand that cure for cancer is rather elusive.


Earlier, we posted about patients who took herbs to “cure” their breast cancer. They ended up in a deep, dark pit. It appears that we have a fool-proof scapegoat to blame. Ah, I told you so, why do such “silly” things taking those unproven and unscientific herbs! Sound familiar right?

But here are patients who did the “right thing” from the very start. They went to see their doctors, did what their doctors wanted them to do — i.e. surgery and chemotherapy. After undergoing all these treatments and having spent so much money besides enduring all the nasty side effects, they also ended up in the deep, dark pit — equally messy and equally dangerous situations like the patients who took the “unscientific” path.

Let us present you these 4 sad cases which we encountered very recently.

Case 1: Jati (not real name) is a 60-year-old Indonesian lady.  She was diagnosed with right breast cancer and underwent a mastectomy. Then she underwent 12 cycles of chemotherapy and 5 sessions of radiation. She was told the cancer had already spread to her lungs. Jati took 2 cycles of Xeloda.

The cancer did not go away. Jati came to a private hospital in Penang and underwent 6 cycles of chemo. Each cycle cost her RM 4,500.

CT scan on 4 May 2016 showed:

  • The mass seen in the right axilla and right retropectoral region appears slightly larger compared with the previous scan on 24 February 2016.
  • The nodules in the right and left lungs are larger and more in number compared with the previous scan.

Blood test on 4 May 2016 showed her CA 125 was at 165 (High, normal 0-35) and GGT at 123 (High, normal 9-36).

The above results showed that the chemo was not effective. Not only that, the cancer had grown to be more serious. The oncologist asked Jati to do more chemo! And more chemo? Actually, Jati had just been hospitalised for 5 days due to severe diarrhea after the chemo.

Jati refused further chemotherapy and came to seek our help. Chemo made her skin turn dark like the pictures below:


Case 2: Shirley (not real name) is a 53-yer-old Indonesian lady. In 2012, she was diagnosed with Stage 2B, right breast cancer. She underwent a mastectomy. Histopathology confirmed an infiltrating carcinoma, mixed ductal & lobular. The tumour size: 2.4 x 2.4 x 1.5 cm.  One of 12 lymph nodes were positive for tumour cells. The tumour was negative for estrogen receptor, negative for progresterone receptor and negative for Her 2/neu.

Shirley received 6 cycles of chemotherapy. No radiation or medication was indicated since this was a triple negative cancer.

Shirley had regular checkup and everything seemed to be normal. CT scan on 17 April 2015 showed no signs of metastatic process. Upper and lower abdominal organs are within normal ecopattern. But the good news did not last. A few months later, blood test showed the CA 15.3 was rising.

PET scan on 14 August 2015, showed:

  • the cancer had spread to the lymph nodes — left collar bone and arm pit, paratracheal, etc.
  • there is fluid in the lung, probably due to metastasis.
  • there is a lesion in Segment 7 of the liver.
  • metastatic lesions in the bone — sternum and rib bone.


Shirley was asked to undergo chemotherapy again. After 2 cycles of chemo, she was told that the treatment was not effective. Shirley then went to another hospital where she received another 3 cycles of chemo — Brexel (Docetaxel), Epirubicin and Cyclophasphamide. After that Shirley decided to give up.

The following is her blood test results — in spite of the chemo.

  CA 15.3
30 December 2015 41.99
12 February 2016 43.00
30 April 2016 114.10

Having run out of option, Shirley and her husband came to seek our help.

Case 3: Mas (not real name) is a 44-year-old Malaysian lady from Sabah. In May 2015, she felt a lump in her left breast and did not bother about it. About 7 months later, in December 2015, she went for a check-up.

Ultrasound on 4 December 2015, showed:

  • a large ill-defined hypoechoic lesion at 2:00 – 26.9 x 33.0 mm.
  • two ill-defined hypoechoic lesons at 11:00 – 5.5 x 5.4 mm and 8.9 x 8.2 mm.
  • enlarged left axillary lymph node, 1 cm.

A mammogram on 4 December 2015, showed a large ill-defined mass with spiculated margins and architectural distortion at the left upper outer quadrant, 2 o’clock.

Mas complained of pains in her backbone. A CT scan on 15 December 2015 indicated the following:

  • confirmed earlier finding of an irregular mass in the left breast, 2.0 x 3.8 x 3.8 cm in size.
  • multiple hypodense lesions of varying sizes scattered in both liver lobes in keeping with liver metastasis. The largest at segment 8, measuring 3.4 x 3.2 cm.
  • a small hypodense cystic lesion at pancreatic body measuring 0.5 x 0.3 cm, likely benign.
  • multiple lytic lesions scattered in almost entire visualised vertebrae, both iliac bones and sternum in keeping with bone metastasis.

Composite Mas Sabah

Mas underwent a mastectomy in January 2016.  The tumour was ER positive, PR positive and HER2 positive.

After surgery, in February 2016, Mas was started on chemotherapy (drugs: EC). The treatment was scheduled for 6 cycles but after 3 cycles the doctor stopped the treatment because Mas’s liver was badly affected. Mas also suffered side effects of the chemo for the entire 3 weeks after each cycle of chemo.

  1 March 2016 22 March 2016
ALP 308 H 455 H
ALT 153.3 H 96.1 H
AST 228.7 H 200.4 H


Case 4:  Yan (not real name) is a 36-year-old Indonesian. She felt a small lump in her breast in January 2016. The nipple discharged pus. A biopsy indicated cancer. Yan underwent a mastectomy on 26 February 2016 in a private hospital in Melaka, Malaysia. Histopathology confirmed an invasive ductal carcinoma. Fourteen of the 16 axillary lymph nodes showed evidence of tumor metastasis. One lymph node at Level II showed evidence of metastasis.

The tumour was positive for oestrogen receptor, negative for progesterone receptor and positive for C-erbB-2.

PET scan on 23 March 2016 confirmed the cancer had spread to the numerous lymph nodes in the body.

Dwi Jandayani Yan

Yan was referred to an oncologist for follow-up. Based on the above, the oncologist recommend the following:

  1. Chemotherapy – 8 cycles, 3 weeks once. Cost: AC + Gran RM 2,500 x 4 = RM 10,00. Docetaxel + Pegasta RM 5,600 x 4 = RM 22,400. So in total the 8 cycles of chemo would cost about RM 32,400.
  2. Heceptin, total of 17 injections, to start at 5th chemo session. This could take a year at total cost of RM 150,000.
  3. Radiotherapy, 15 sessions, for three weeks. Cost RM 10,000.
  4. Hormonal therapy to take for 10 years. Nolvadix (or Tamoxifen), 20 mg, RM 150 per month.

Did you ask if the above treatments are going to cure you? I never ask! I only asked about the side effects.

What are the side effects? Total hair loss, nausea and onset of menopause.

So what do you want to do now? I don’t want to do any chemo.

A quick addition of all costs: RM 200,400 (besides the surgery).

Can we learn some lesson from all these cases?

These four patients did the “right thing” from the medical perspective. After all we have been told and made to believe that medicine is scientific and proven. Reflect on the various quotations below, then ask these question: Is the present treatment of breast cancer (or any cancer at all) based on science? Or is it just a guessing game based on biased opinions? Are you being told the truth or being misled?

Why The Current Cancer Treatment Failed

42 Whitaker Treatment-failure

26 Successs-is-an-illusion


37 War-on-Cancer-wrong-concept

Cancer Treatment is a Guessing Game — no one can tell why

3 Chemo attempt to kill cancer before killing patient JohnLee

Am I Not Told All These?

You are not alone. Even educated people like an army colonel also got trapped. 


The Cruel, Mad and Greedy World

We really felt sorry for Yan, sitting in front of us not knowing what to do.

Let’s take a closer look at her case. She was 36 years old when diagnosed with breast cancer. After surgery, the follow-up chemo treatments alone would coast her about RM 200,000. That did not take in consideration cost of travel and stay in Malaysia (on and off) for the treatment for about a year. Let’s assume that everything comes to about RM 300,000 for the treatment.

Let us also assume that she will be cured after all these treatments — which may not necessarily be the case. She may die half way through the treatment. She may suffer a relapse after spending that RM 300,000. No one can predict, no one can tell and no one can know for sure.

If there is a recurrence, there will be another pile of medical bills to settle.

If Yan were to start saving right on  the first day when she was born, it would come to about RM 694 per month or RM 8,333 per year. Do that for 36 years to be able to raise that kind of money for her “unpredictable” breast cancer treatment.

Look at it another way. If Yan were to go to the university and started work at age 20, it would mean that each year she has to save RM 18,750 per year or RM 1,562 per month for 16 years to be able to accumulate RM 300,000 to pay for her medical bills.

Indeed, something must have gone wrong in this world today? Is it not about time that someone come out with an cheap but effective option to heal cancer?  Knowing how the world operates that is another illusion! Read these quotations:

1 Medicine-greed-cant-change

3 Treatment-that-makes-money 4 Oncology-all-about-money


After all the staggering cost and believing that there is a cure, here’s the real bomb shell

32 Chem-spreads-cancer-Fred-Hu

Related cases:

Listen, there is NO cure for metastatic cancer!

Breast Cancer: Surgery, Chemo, Radiation and Hormonal Therapy Did Not Cure Her. Xeloda made her miserable! Patient, Only You Should Decide What You Want To Do!

Breast Cancer: Surgery did not cure. Recurrence and cancer spread extensively to her lungs. But does she want to live?

Look at the Bigger Picture Part 2. You don’t have to “swallow” everything that they offer you!

2.3 cm Malignant Breast Lump: Surgery, Chemo and Radiation — Disaster

Breast Cancer: Surgery, Chemo, Radiation and Tamoxifen Did Not Cure Them




Bawang Dayak, Soursop leaf and Kunyit putih Did Not Cure Her Breast Cancer: Another Big Mistake

Lately, we encountered many breast cancer cases. Indeed pathetic. By sharing this story with you, we hope that those who come after this unfortunate patient, can learn and understand the “folly” of taking the wrong path.


Ani (not real name) is a 31-year-old Indonesia lady. In December 2013, Ani was breast feeding her baby. Her breast swelled. A month later, she felt a lump in her left breast. In April 2014, Ani felt her whole body was uncomfortable. She went to consult a doctor. An ultrasound done did not show anything wrong with her breast.

Ani went back to see her doctor again in May 2014. The lump in her left breast was removed. Unfortunately, this time it was said to be cancerous — infiltrating ductal carcinoma, Grade 3 with microvascular invasion. Ani was asked to have a mastectomy — i.e., removing  the whole breast. She refused. She was also asked to undergo chemotherapy. She also refused.

Ani turned to folk medicines, taking teas made from soursop leaf, kunyit putih, and bawang dayak (also known as bawang tiwai).

Ani started to take bawang dayak from April 2015 until early 2016.  She believed that bawang dayak helped her in spite of the fact that in September 2015 many small lumps appeared in her left breast. These lumps then grown bigger and coalesce into a single big lump.

Ani underwent a second surgery to remove the lump together with a large portion of her breast tissue. Histopathology report dated 4 November 2014, indicated that her breast tumour as negative for estrogen receptor, negative for progesterone receptor and negative for Her2 receptor.

Ani was asked to undergo chemotherapy. Again she refused and continued with her bawang dayak.

Her recipe: She would boil 7 bawang (like onion bulb) and take the tea 3 times a day. One kg of bawang dayak cost IDR 200,000  (about RM 60.00).

Things did not work out well for Ani. In January 2016, CT showed the cancer had spread to her lungs. She was referred to an oncologist who asked her to undergo chemotherapy. Again she refused.

In May 2016, Ani and her husband came to seek our advice. She presented with hot, pulling pains in her left breast. The pain lasted the whole day and night.  She had difficulty sleeping due to the pains. Indeed, as in the picture below, her whole left breast was badly affected by the cancer.


What Do We Do Now?

You may wish to read a similar story — Lucy and her misadventure with bawang tiwai (

In Lucy’s case as well as this case, we believe it is better to remove the cancerous breast entirely.  Looking at Ani’s breast, unfortunately, the cancer had already spread extensively. No surgeon would want to cut off the breast without first undergoing chemotherapy. The reasoning is …hopefully chemo would shrink the tumour so that surgery can be performed.

Unfortunately again, Ani had a triple negative tumour — a more difficult type of cancer to treat. It tends to be more aggressive than other type of breast cancer.  About 15 to 20 % of breast cancer is the triple negative type. It occurs more commonly in women under the age of 40.

Lesson We Can Learn From This Case

No matter which angle you look at it, if you have a cancerous lump in your breast, it would not go away! From our 20 plus years of observation, the best solution is to have it removed right away after you are told that you have cancer. Why keep that cancerous breast? If you still insist on keeping this cancerous lump in there, know that it will come back to haunt you one day in the future — a dreadful nightmare indeed!

At the beginning, after a lumpectomy confirmed it was a cancer, Ani did not want to undergo a mastectomy. Our advice again: it is better to lose one breast than to lose your life. And along the way, you also have to suffer!

Know also that when the lump is small, it is easier to remove it totally. But when it has grown big and has spread all over the breast, mastectomy is difficult to perform. Even if you agree to the mastectomy at that stage, the chances of removing all of the cancer is very slim indeed. Even worse, you cannot perform the surgery without first undergoing chemotherapy. From the very beginning Ani did not want chemo. Understandable. But when the cancer had gone out of control, she must, whether she likes it or not, submit to chemo.  So, Ani is back to square one.

Seek Reliable Knowledge 

If you are diagnosed with cancer. Our advice is don’t panic and don’t despair. There is still life if you make the right choice. Yes, the key is the right choice.

To know how to make the choice that is right for you, you need to read …. read and read. Nothing comes easy. So take time to be well informed. There are enough information in the internet to help you. But remember that what is written in the internet may just be unsubstantiated “garbage”, fake testimonials, manipulated results, etc. So be careful.

Before you believe anything picked from the internet, please check and recheck your facts. In spite of this hazard, we still feel the internet is the start of your search for knowledge.

Your Ultimate Choice: Devil vs Deep Blue Sea 

After surgery, you have to make an important decision of your life.

The doctor would want you to go for chemotherapy, radiotherapy and hormonal therapy (or any combination of these). That is the standard “medically right” way to go. But you need not follow your doctor’s advice if your heart tells you to take a different path. In another posting, we wrote about how patients who took this route ended up in an equally messy and dangerous situations.

To-day, in the internet, are numerous alternative therapies which claim to be able to “cure” cancer without having to undergo the aggressive, dilapidating medical treatments above. But in this article, you learn about the fallacy of following this alternative route. This does not mean that other alternative therapies are useless. It is up to you to evaluate these therapies and decide what you are comfortable with.

Over the years, we have helped numerous patients heal their cancer — of course not all who came were successful. Many failed miserably too.

We understand many cancer patients are caught in a limbo. They are not accustomed to be in a situation where they have to make a decision for themselves. If possible, they prefer to have others or the experts, to tell them exactly what to do. They just want to follow — swallow hook, line, and sinker. 

Reflect on these quotations below and know that when it comes to cancer, there is no such thing as a right or wrong choice. It has to be your choice. Follow what your heart says!

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10 Decide-what-is-right-for-yo



Bawang Tiwai Did Not Cure Her Breast Cancer: A Big Mistake!

Lately, we encountered many cases of breast cancer. Indeed pathetic. By  sharing this story with you, we hope that those who come after this unfortunate patient, can learn and understand the “folly” of taking the wrong path.



Lucy (not real name) is a 40-year-old female from Indonesia.

An USG of her breasts on 13 July 2013 showed:

  • Anechoic lesions seen in upper side of both breasts, size 2 to 7 mm in diameter, well defined margin.
  • Hypoechoic lesions, unclear border, lying in the skin seen in both axilla, size 3 to 7 mm. Suspected atheroma (an abnormal mass of fatty or lipid material deposited in the inner lining of an artery) in both axilla.
  • No evidence of suspicious abnormal enlarged lymph nodes in both axilla.

Conclusion: Suspected of atheroma in both axilla. Cysts in both breasts.

In January 2014, Lucy felt a lump in her left breast. A mammogram and USG were performed on 30 January 2014 which indicated:

  • An irregular slight hyperdensity lesion in left mammogram with subtle microcalcification, highly suggestive of malignant mass.
  • Breast ultrasound demonstrate malignant and indeterminate solid mass in left breast and bilateral breast cysts.

Fine Needle Aspiration Biopsy concluded a left breast, ductal carcinoma.

Lucy was asked to undergo an operation. She refused. Instead she started to take Bawang Tiwai as a remedy for almost a year. Her problem did not go away.

A year later, January 2015, Lucy sought the help of a herbalist in Surabaya. She was prescribed herbs besides undergoing a tapping treatment. The herbalist tapped certain parts of her body as a treatment. Each tapping treatment lasted about 10 to 15 minutes. This treatment was done once a month for a year.

A PET scan on 12 March 2015, showed swelling of the liver. The cancer had spread to her lymph nodes while the condition of her left breast had deteriorated.

Lucy stopped this herbal and tapping treatments in January 2016, after an USG had shown that Lucy’s breast cancer had worsened.

In May 2016, Lucy and her husband came to seek our advice. We told Lucy to go and consult a surgeon and have her left breast removed. There is no compromise about it! Lucy went to a private hospital for further consultation.

A CT scan on 3 May 2016 showed:

  • An enhanced irregular mass in the left breast measuring 49.8 x 56.8 x 57.1 mm.
  • Multiple small satellite nodules are also seen.
  • Infiltration into the nipple and skin seen, with thickened overlying skin.
  • Multiple enlarged left axillary lymph nodes, largest measuring 38.6 x 51.3 x 53.3 mm.
  • Multiple metastatic lung nodules noted bilaterally.
  • Multiple enlarged mediastinal lymph nodes seen, largest in right paratracheal region measuring 37.3 x 24.8 x 55.0 mm or hilar lymphadenopathy seen.
  • Enlarged left upper paraaortic lymph nodes seen measuring 14.9 x 28.4 x 31.0 mm.
  • Gross hepatomegaly. No focal liver parenchyma lesion.
  • Uterus is anteverted and bulky with a uterine fibroid seen measuring 65.9 x 54.9 x 68.0 mm.
  • Several lytic bone lesions seen in the spine, sternum, liac and ischium.

Conclusion: Metastatic left breast carcinoma.



Here are Lucy’s blood test results.

  CEA CA 15.5
6 November 2014 Less than 0.50 17.0
12 February 2016 0.89 234.9  H
3 May 2016 1.1 680.0  H


It is obvious that Lucy’s breast cancer had gone “beyond rotten”. The surgeon would not want to perform a mastectomy for her. Lucy was asked to consult an oncologist and undergo chemotherapy — the treatment which she did not want to undergo.

Lucy and her husband came back to see us again. These are the gist of what I said to them.

Wrong Path

  1. You have taken the wrong path to start with. In January 2014, you had a biopsy. The lump was cancerous. The doctor wanted you to undergo an operation. You refused. You turned to Bawang Tiwai and was taking it for almost a year. Then you turned to a herbalist who gave you some herbs and did some “tapping magic” on you. The cancer worsened.
  1. That was the greatest mistake you have ever made. Why do I say that? In my twenty years dealing with breast cancer, I have learned that a better option is to remove the cancerous lump as soon as possible. In this way you may be able to save your life. To me, surgery is a necessary evil. If you were to come and see 2 years ago, I would NOT prescribe you any herbs — not until you have your cancerous breast removed.

No Need To Find A Scapegoat

  1. I have never heard of Bawang Tiwai before. (This is also known as Bawang Dayak). So last night, I surfed the net and searched for more information. This onion-like herb (Eleutherine palmifolia) is grown in Kalimantan. This is what it looks like (picture from the internet).


This herb is supposed to be good for the following (reproduced from:

  1. Insomnia
  2. Healthful heart Muscle
  3. Support overcome lymph node cancer
  4. Shrink irritation of the tonsils
  5. Treating bronchial asthma
  6. Ulcers
  7. Lowering uric acid
  8. Overcoming piles
  9. Help deal with lung melanoma – Lung
  10. Aid overcome breast melanoma
  11. Support treat uterine cancer
  12. Support overcome colon melanoma
  13.  Support deal with whitish
  14. Aid deal with cysts
  15. Aid overcome cholesterol
  16. Reduces suffering ulcer
  17. 17 Help deal with migraine
  1. As a botanist, I am glad that I get to know this herb. At least I have learned something new. But to say that this herb can cure your breast cancer is altogether another thing. For one year you have put your hope on this plant. Did you cure anything? On the contrary, your breast cancer worsened.
  2. If you were to believe what is being written about this herb (read above list carefully), it is said it can help with lung cancer and fibroid besides breast lump. Now your breast cancer had spread to your lungs, bone and lymph nodes. You also have a 6 cm uterine fibroid. As it is, the herb helps to cure “nothing.”
  3. Maybe other patients may benefit from this herb but NOT you. After a year you found out the “truth” the hard and dangerous way. You stopped taking Bawang Tiwai. In fact, I am going to tell you — on the same day that you came to talk to me, there was another patient who also took this Bawang. She was also in deep trouble.

What to Do Now?

  1. When you came I asked you to go and see a surgeon to have the “rotten” breast removed. Unfortunately, according to his SOP (standard operating procedure) he would not be able to do that. He wanted you to do chemo first to shrink the tumour. If the chemo does not shrink the tumour you will have to go on with more and more chemo. If you are lucky, the tumour shrinks and you can get your breast removed totally.
  2. I understand many patients do not want to go for chemo or radiation. They have heard enough of what these treatments can do to patients. So, I understand the predicament. But as I have said, surgery is a necessary evil — go and have the breast removed! If you don’t want to proceed with the follow up chemo or radiation, that is totally a different ball game.
  3. In your case, since the surgeon did not want to remove your breast before you undergo chemotherapy, I suggest that you go and find some other surgeon who is willing the perform the surgery without chemo. May be there will someone like that. Although we know the chance is very slim. Go home to Indonesia and try to find such doctor.
  4. If you cannot, then you have no choice but to do 1 to 3 cycles of chemo and see what happen. If the tumour shrinks, then you are lucky. But if there is no effect or you get worse, then know that chemo is not going to help you!
  5. And understand this carefully:

3 Chemo attempt to kill cancer before killing patient JohnLee

Role of CA Care

  1. At CA Care, after many years of observation and healing hundreds of cancer patients, We can come to a simple conclusion: Nobody on earth can cure any cancer! Because of this we are out-front with our patients. We tell them the truth that some may not want to hear.
  2. All patients who come to us, hope that we can cure them. That we have “magic” bullets to make the cancer disappear. No, we can’t cure your cancer. To make your life better, probably yes. To make you live longer, may be yes. To give a better quality of life, most likely yes. But cure, NO.

To  put cancer into remission for a while may be possible,  but to make the cancer go away one hundred percent is not possible. The cancer can come back, even after 10, 15 or 20 years. We have patients who relapsed after such long years. So make no mistake about this.

  1. In addition to taking herbs, we ask you to take care of your diet. Eat healthy not junk and toxic food! Go for exercise everyday if you can. Relax and don’t unnecessarily stress yourself. Learn how to let go. And above all, pray that the Almighty God guide you to do what is right for you.

So, our herbs are not magic bullets for your cancer. Unless you are prepared to follow what we have said, don’t waste your time and money trying to follow our therapy.




Breast Cancer: Declined chemo and radiation – alive and healthy. Relatives who had chemo, died.

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TA, a 40-year-old Indonesian, was diagnosed with breast cancer. This is her story.

  • Sometime in 2013, TA felt a lump in her right breast.
  • For about 3 months, she had pain along the back bone.
  • In November 2013, TA underwent a lumpectomy. Histology report indicated a mixed type  of cancer — papillary carcinoma, DCIS, LCIS, CCL, UDH, intraductal papilloma, adenosis and fibroadenoma.
  • Her case was referred to Singapore and TA was told that it might be a cancer (?).
  • TA came to seek our help and was started on the CA Care Therapy. 

Recurrence – Mastectomy

  • The surgeon did not do a good job of the lumpectomy. A small lump appeared at the operation site.
  • TA underwent a mastectomy in 2014.
  • Five of 10 nodes were involved. TA was asked to undergo 6 cycles of chemotherapy and 30 session of radiation. 

 No to Chemo and Radiation

  • TA’s sister had ovarian cancer and underwent 18 cycles of chemotherapy. She eventually died. So this is the lesson that TA learned about chemotherapy. When told to do chemo-radiotherapy, TA just flatly refused the treatments.

CA Care Therapy vs the deadly chemotherapy

  • TA had been on our therapy since she was diagnosed with breast cancer. After two years, TA came to our centre again – saying that she “missed” us and wanted to keep up.
  • TA told us that a relative in Palembang (Indonesia) also had breast cancer. This was after she (TA) was diagnosed with breast cancer. She shared her healing journey with this relative but unfortunately the patient’s husband did not believe in alternative medicine. This relative had 7 cycles of chemotherapy. After the 6th cycles, she was totally “down.” TA asked her to stop the treatment but her advise was ignored. After the 7th cycle, she went into coma and died. She died less than a year after her diagnosis.
  • TA had another 70-year-old relative in Jakarta. He had liver cancer and was undergoing chemotherapy. Initially the response was good but his condition “dropped” after more chemo. TA recommended that he tried our herbs. The patient agreed but his wife was against taking herbs. She is a rich lady! The patient died after more chemo.

TA took the right path

  • Seated next to her while relating these stories was TA’s husband. Initially, her husband also wanted TA to undergo chemotherapy as advised by the oncologist. But TA went on to search more literature and found CA Care. From then on, TA decided to take a non-medical path.
  • It has been 2 years and TA is still alive and healthy.
  • Our reminder to TA: Take care, don’t stress yourself. And don’t eat bad food! The cancer can come back again and we don’t have any “magic bullet” for you.

 Watch this video.

To those reading this story, just ask what you can learn from TA’s story. This is what we often tell patients: To live or to die is your choice. So, chose wisely! 

Perhaps you may want to soberly ponder these quotations:

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Die of chemo Allen Levin

Chemo kill  Compassonate onco