Ovarian Cancer: Part 3 My Experience With Chemotherapy and Your Herbs


When you underwent chemotherapy, you were told that you had Stage 4 cancer. Did the oncologist tell you whether the chemo was going to cure you?

H: This was what the doctor told us after the surgery, “Remember you must go for chemo. You need to go for six cycles.” I still remember this was what he told us. Then he added, “You have Stage 4 cancer – you must go for chemo. Remember that.”

Did you ask him if the chemo can cure her?

H: At that time my impression was chemo would be able to cure her.

Did you suffer while undergoing chemotherapy?

Yes. I couldn’t sleep. Vomited and had pains until the bones.

H: On top of it, she was bald.

Becoming bald, that is a normal thing! Every three weeks you have one cycle of chemo. How long did your suffering last after each chemo.

One week of suffering. After I regained my strength I went in for another shot. I couldn’t eat and my body felt very tired. During that time I felt like dying. I could not carry anything and I was drained off my energy. After I recovered I have to go for another bang.

You had three cycles of chemo. Which is the more difficult – the first one or the second one?

The second was worse than the first one. But for the third cycle I was alright – that was after I started to take your herbs.

Oh, you started taking the herbs after your second chemo and just before your went for the third one?

Yes, before the third chemo. I took your Chemo Tea and also the Upper Pain Tea.

H: I still remember what you told me, “I am not pushing you to go for chemo. But I also do not tell you to stop the chemo. I don’t want the blame. But if you want to go for chemo then take the Chemo Tea. “ So she took your teas and went for her third chemo.

Did you suffer any side effects after that?

Very little.

H: I observed her. There was difference this time. Before the herbs she had to sleep and was in pain. After taking your herbs there was no more problem. That was what I observed – there was this difference.

Siti: One more thing doctor. During the first chemo and the second chemo, the doctor said my blood was not good. After taking the herbs for about a month or so, the doctor said my blood was good. That was what the doctor in the government hospital told me. But he did not know that I was already on your herbs. I have another problem when I was on chemo. I tend to forget things. I boiled water for hours and I did not remember that. When I boiled the herbs and then went upstairs, I had to pray and pray that I did not forget what I did.

That was what they called, “chemo-brain”. Now, it has been five years since you have chemo – do you still have this chemo brain?

Yes, once a while. I still tend to forget things.

H: But this problem was not as bad as previously. Before it was severe.

Who said you had Stage 4 cancer?

The surgeon who operated on me said so. I just met her last month (after five years).  This is what she told me, “Patient who had cancer like you, ought to be sleeping on the bed and not able to walk around.” She was implying that I ought to be dead by now.

That was what she told you?

Yes, the specialist who operated on me.  One day, my son was also admitted into the same hospital for his appendix problem. I was in the hospital and happened to meet the surgeon. She said, “ Siti, you are well?” Her tone and reaction showed me that she was really surprised that I am still alive. She then phoned another doctor and said (I hear her conversation): “You still remember Siti – a patient some four to five years back. She is still around!” Imagine what she said, I am still around and alive! Then she told me, “Siti, come back and let’s have a CT scan.” She persuaded me to come back to the hospital and do the scan. After thinking about it, I thought I should do the scan.

I went to do the CT scan. I was trembling at that time – very concerned if they would find something inside me. After the scan, the surgeon stared at me and said, “Congratulations – I could not find anything in there – not even a scar.”

Did the doctor ever ask you what you have been doing?

She did not ask much. She looked at me. I guessed she wanted to ask me something but was reluctant. I was not sure if she was shy or was ashamed or what.

But did she know that you are taking herbs?

Yes, I told her about that but she did not ask me for more details.  After I was told of the CT scan result I said to her, “I want to go and tell Dr. Chris about this.” She asked me, “Who is Dr. Chris.” I replied, “The herbalist from Penang.”

You are indeed blessed. If you asked me then what I could do for you, I must admit I would not know what to answer. But let me remind you that even after surviving five years you are not cured yet. To the doctors surviving five years is considered “cure”. That is not true at all. Even if you survive ten years, it is still not a cure.

I want to thank you so much for helping me. I pray that your will continue to do this good work forever and ever to help our society.

Let us all praise God and be grateful to Him for his blessing. He gave me the knowledge to help others.


Read her full story:

Part 1 She Gave Up Chemotherapy and Turned to Herbs – Still Healthy After Seven Years

Part 2 Initially We Did Not Believe in What You Are Doing

Part 3 My Experience With Chemotherapy and Your Herbs

Ovarian Cancer: Part 2 Initially We Did Not Believe in What You Are Doing

Our interview with Siti was done in 2005. She had been taking our herbs for the past five years.


All these are God’s blessing.

Husband: We are indeed grateful to Razuddin who “pushed” us so many times to come and see you. At first we were hesitant.

Because you did not believe in what we do?

H: Yes indeed – I don’t believe in your herbal therapy. But then Razuddin kept insisting and one day we fixed an appointment in my office. Then I relented and he drove us to Penang to see you.

Siti: When we came I was till undergoing my chemo.

H: She already had two cycles and was going on to the third. I still remember you tell me, “If you want to go for chemo, you can then take the Chemo Tea.” My wife took the Chemo Tea and she felt the difference! Before the herbs, she had pains, fevers and was unable to sleep due to the chemo. Before she started on the third cycle of chemo she took the Chemo Tea – three days before and three days after the chemo. She was alright – no problem. This result started to make us believe in what you are doing.

Well, as I have said, you are blessed. Whatever it is you received this blessing. There are people who missed on this. At CA Care we are not “hunting” for people to come and see us. Those who need our help can come those who want us to help them, we will help. Those who don’t need our help – that’s fine.

H: I am indeed grateful to Razuddin for his insistence to bring us here to see you. If not for this repeated insistence we would not know you. It’s indeed God’s blessing. So the truth is, we started off being very skeptical about what you are doing – and we did not believe your therapy.

(Note: Razuddin is our colon cancer patient. He underwent surgery but refused chemo absolutely. He immediately started on our therapy and has been doing fine for many years now).

Siti, when you came to Penang that day, did you believe us at all?

I was doubtful – not sure at all. But after I started taking the herbs, I felt better and my health improved. I started to believe you.

After you started on the herbs, you gave up after the third cycle of chemo. Why did you give up chemo?


H: She was getting better. There is no reason why we should go for anymore chemo.

The doctor was not angry with you for not continuing? Did he not call you to come back for the fourth shot?

Yes, the doctor kept calling me but I just did not turn up.

After taking the herbs, did you really feel better?

Yes, I felt my body was healthier. I have no more pains. I had more strength.

H: My wife had Stage 4 cancer. Most of my friends knew this. But after taking your herbs, these friends were really surprised to see her so well and healthy. Some of them were asking where to find your herbs. Some of these people have relatives who had undergone chemo – only one died recently.

Siti: My friend told me that I don’t look like a cancer patient.  I don’t look like I am having cancer because I looked so well and healthy.

H: She did not show any symptoms that she had cancer.

How long were you on the herbs before you could feel that you were doing well?

After taking the herbs for about a year.

Apart from our herbs, did you take any other herbs or medication?

Only vitamin supplements. No other medication.  Even when I was undergoing the third cycle of chemo, I did not take the doctor’s medication. I threw them away. I just took Dr. Chris’ herbs.

H: One more positive point. After taking the herbs we also went for the blood tests. The results were good. We repeated the test a few months later. The results were also good.  So that increased our confidence in what you are doing. Now we are confident.


Read her full story:

Part 1 She Gave Up Chemotherapy and Turned to Herbs – Still Healthy After Seven Years

Part 2 Initially We Did Not Believe in What You Are Doing

Part 3 My Experience With Chemotherapy and Your Herbs

Ovarian Cancer: Part 1 She Gave Up Chemotherapy and Turned to Herbs – Still Healthy After Seven Years

Siti was 48 years old when she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer Stage 4. She underwent a total hysterectomy in 2005 followed by three cycles of chemotherapy. She gave up chemo. At first Siti and her husband did not believe in what we at CA Care are doing. Many times, they were “pushed” by a friend to come and see us. Eventually Siti and her husband relented and came to Penang. From then on it was no turning back. Siti’s health improved.  It has been seven years now and she is going well.

This video recording was done in 2010 – five years after she was started on the herbs.

Chris: How are you doing?

Siti: Thank God I am going fine – very well and healthy.

Any problem at all? Any pain?

No pain. But if I don’t take the herbs, I can feel some pains. But the pain is not serious. Just a little only. And after I take the herbs, the pains go away.

Have you gone back to see your doctor lately?

Yes, I saw the surgeon who operated on me. She said, “Thank God” I am clean – no recurrence.

Husband: The surgeon was very surprised.

Did the surgeon know that you did not complete your chemo? (Done only three out of six cycles).

I told the surgeon that I was taking Dr. Chris’ herbs from Penang. But the way she reacted, I felt she was reluctant to ask me for more details. I saw a few doctors were gathered together and they were talking about me and some were looking at me. The surgeon told me, “By right you should be lying in bed – Stage 4 cancer – should be lying in bed.” She looked at me in disbelief.

Since taking the herbs, did you also take care of your diet?


And you took the herbs “religiously”?


Exercise regularly?

No, I have problems with my knees. I only walked a little.

You have been on the herbs for five years now – since 2005 – tell me do you get “fed-up” taking this stuff?

What can I do? I have no choice. I have to take them. I am not going to stop. God has led me to find these herbs and they are good for my health. I am grateful and I should not feel “fed-up”.

FLASHBACK – 11 November 2005

Siti and her husband visited CA Care in Penang. They were accompanied by a friend, Razuddin,

About fifteen years ago, Siti underwent an operation to remove her fibroids. In 2005, her stomach bloated and she was later diagnosed with bilateral papillary serous cystadenocarcinoma of the ovaries with metastasis to the omentum.

At the time of this visit, Siti had received two cycles of chemotherapy and was to receive another cycle in six days’ time. Since Siti was not sure if she would like to take our herbs, I left it to her to decide if she wanted to continue with her third cycle of chemo. I prescribed her the Chemo-Tea in the event that she decided to continue with her chemo.

Siti presented with prickling pains in her abdomen. She was unable to sleep. She had pains in the middle of the top of her head. For her cancer I prescribed her Capsule A, Utero-ovary Tea, and T & E. For her headache she was given Upper Pain tea.



Read her full story:

Part 1 She Gave Up Chemotherapy and Turned to Herbs – Still Healthy After Seven Years

Part 2 Initially We Did Not Believe in What You Are Doing

Part 3 My Experience With Chemotherapy and Your Herbs

Utero-Ovary-Lung Cancer, Part 4: Health Improved After the e-Therapy

Acknowledgment: Permission to use videos and pictures without having to mask the patient’s face is granted by the family.


20 December 2011

  • She was unable to urinate. Her bladder felt full and distended. We advised her to seek doctor’s help if the problem persisted.
  • Her legs had no strength.
  • After the first Detox program, she felt better .

Chris:  What do you mean by better?

Patient: My fingers are not tight any more – before I felt tight. I can now move my feet. Before, I was not able to do that.

(Patient stood up with the help of her son – she was not able to this before).

21 December 2011

  • She was able to urinate – problem resolved.
  • Strength and movements of her legs improved.

What about your breathing?

P: Good. It is getting better.

Okay Ibu, you came yesterday. Compare your condition before you did the therapy yesterday and today after doing the therapy – did you feel any better?

P: Yes, I felt better. I can now stand up. I can walk. I feel more alert.

D: She started to move her bowels again.

Slowly. I believe you will benefit more in the next few days. You are getting better now. Go home and learn how to take care of yourself. Do not do anything that is not right.

D: Mama, it is only one week (on the CA Care Therapy).

I really cannot believe that it was only last week that you were in the hospital on oxygen – and now you are here.

22 December 2011

Patient has undergone three sessions of the e-Therapy.

  • Last night was unable to sleep because she had to move her bowels and also urinate (Note: on the first day before the e-Therapy she was unable to urinate).
  • Yesterday her bowel movements were six times in the day time and four times at night.
  • Because of her frequent bowel movements she was not able to sleep well. She also feel weak.
  • Her stomach felt uncomfortable – with churning pain.
  • She sometimes coughed with white phlegm.
  • Her legs still lacked strength.

23 December 2011

  • Her stomach was still painful.
  • Bowels movements had reduced to six times.
  • Her coughing had improved.
  • She still lacked strength in her legs.

24 December 2011

RJ and her family were ready to go home. In the morning we went to visit them in their apartment.

  • Patient was doing alright. She had no more pain – the stomach pain she complained about earlier was gone.
  • There was no breathing difficulty at all and she was able to sleep flat.
  • Her frequent bowel movements were resolved.
  • Sleeping was difficult.
  • Coughs still persisted.

Daughter: For the past two days, mama was able to walk to the dining table outside to have her food there. Her appetite started to improve.  Last night she had difficulty sleeping. Her coughs still persisted. But this was not as bad as when she was in the hospital.


Utero-Ovary-Lung Cancer, Part 3: A Miracle Happened: An Interview with Her Daughter and Her Brother

Acknowledgment: Permission to use videos and pictures without having to mask the patient’s face is granted by the family.


Gist of our conversation

  1. Two days after her return from receiving chemotherapy in Singapore, RJ started to cough and she had fevers. She lacked strength. She was hospitalized in Methodist Hospital in Medan. At that time RJ was still able to walk by herself.
  2. Later her haemoglobin and platelet dropped and she had a blood transfusion. Eight packets of blood were given to her.
  3. After three or four days in the hospital, she was not able to walk. She had no strength.
  4. Suddenly she became breathless. X-ray indicated fluid in her lungs. The doctor tapped out the fluid using a syringe. The first tapping consisted of 19 withdrawals of 60 ml each. X-ray indicated there was still more fluid in the lung.
  5. A second tapping was done – consisting of 12 withdrawals of 60 ml each.
  6. Even after the pleural tapping, RJ still had to use oxygen for breathing.
  7. Before the pleural tapping, RJ was breathless and was on oxygen but at this point in time she did not gasp for air. After the first pleural tapping – the breathing was the same. But after the second tapping, her breathing became heavy and she was gasping for air.
  8. On 15 December 2011, her daughter started to give her CA Care herbs. Capsule A, Lung 1 + Lung Phlegm and Lung 2 + Lung Phlegm.
  9. From 15 December 2011 onwards, RJ was only on CA Care’s herbs. Her daughter kept aside all doctor’s medication.  This was done without the knowledge of the doctor or the nurses in the hospital.
  10. After taking the herbs, RJ started to discharge a lot of phlegm. In addition she moved her bowels very often and discharged a lot of stools. The first bowel movement had some traces of blood. After that it was normal – no blood.
  11. By 17 December (three days on herbs) RJ was able to breathe normally. There was no need to use oxygen anymore. She was also able to recognize people around her.  Before this she was not able to recognize the family memebrs around her.
  12. Even though she was on oxygen, RL was still gasping for air.
  13. After taking Cough 5 tea for two days, RJ did not cough anymore. Before this she was coughing very badly. So with no cough her breathing became normal.
  14. An X-ray indicated the lung had improved.
  15. After the herbs started to help RJ, the daughter began to gradually reduce the flow of oxygen in the tube.  This was done without the knowledge of the doctor or nurses. She even told the doctor, “Let me take charge of the situation.” The doctor responded, “You become your own doctor.”
  16. On 17 December 2011, the doctor told the family to go home and pray. The cancer had already spread   throughout the body. The daughter said, “At that time mother was really in terrible condition. She was gasping for breath, her eyes rolled upwards and she was not able to recognise any one of us. I had to dig into her mouth to open it and she bit me.”
  17.  All the family members from different parts of Indonesia flew home to be with RJ.
  18. On 18 December 2011, the situation improved. The oxygen supply to the tube was totally cut off. RJ did not need any more oxygen.  The doctor came in and said, “It is a miracle. Now you can go quickly to Penang.”
  19. RJ was discharged from the hospital on 19 December 2011, and the next day, she and her family flew to Penang.

We asked her daughter, “Did your mother really benefit from the herbs?”

She replied, “Now there is a vast difference in my mother’s condition. She had improved so much. She is beginning to have more strength and was able to move by herself. Even on the first day we came here, 20 December and now – two days later, there are a lot of improvements. The only problem she has now is the pain in her stomach.” (Note: this stomach pain was gone after the e-Therapy!).

Utero-Ovary-Lung Cancer, Part 2: Hope: After Three Days on Herbs While in the Hospital

It was a great surprise indeed that on the morning of 20 December 2011, the patient, accompanied by her doctor friend and family members, came to CA Care. Patient was discharged from the hospital the day before and this morning they flew to Penang.

Hear this miraculous story yourself.

Acknowledgment: Permission to use videos and pictures without having to mask the patient’s face is granted by the family.


Chris: Oo, you are the one who came to see me last week – you said your mother was in Methodist Hospital in Medan?

Daughter: Yes, yes. Mother was hospitalized for about 12 days. Immediately after being discharged we all flew here.

Wah, there are so many people?

D: All our family members. Mom has many children. And that one is mom’s brother. And this one is our good friend and she is a medical doctor.

You came to see me on 14 December 2011. And I gave you some herbs. Did your mom take them?

D: Yes. I gave her the herbs starting on 15 December until now. She has taken the herbs for five days already.

(Turning to patient) After taking the herbs for 5 days, how did you feel?

Patient:  I feel good – more comfortable. I did not have to use the oxygen anymore.

Brother: Before the herbs, she was breathless and needed oxygen to breathe. After taking the herbs for 3 days she was not breathless anymore.

D: I did not tell the doctor that mom was taking herbs. I did not give mom all those pills that the doctor prescribed. I just gave mom your herbs. But those medication given by injections, they were continued as usual because that was beyond my control.

B: The doctor was surprised. He said it was a miracle (that she could recover).

D: Yes, after taking the herbs, mom did not have to use oxygen anymore. Her lungs had less fluid. Before that she was gasping for breath (showing like a fish gasping for air).  Initially after taking the herbs, mom moved her bowels three to four times.

Yes, very good. That is what we want.

D: We were worried if something had gone wrong. But she still continued to take the herbs.

(Turning to patient) Ibu, do you have any problem taking those herbs?

D: Bitter!

P: But I have no difficulty drinking them.

After taking the herbs for a few days, did you not experience some “difficulties” (healing crisis)?

P: No, I felt better, No difficulty at all

So when you were in the hospital, you only took the herbs?

D: Yes, I cooked the herbs at home and brought them to the hospital.

Ibu, now how do you feel?

P: Blank … empty. I cannot urinate. This is my main problem now. I feel my bladder full.

D: Her legs have no strength.

But after taking the herbs, do you still have breathing difficulties?

P: No problem.

Utero-Ovary-Lungs Cancer, Part 1: She Almost Died After Spending Two Billion Rupiahs on Chemotherapy in Singapore

Soon after undergoing chemotherapy in Singapore in December 2011, she ended up in a hospital in Medan. Is this the final destination after a long journey – one and half years of chemo and spending about two billion rupiahs? On 17 December 2011, all family members from various parts of Indonesia flew home to be with her. She was gasping for breath and unable to recognise people around her – her eyes rolled upwards and were not responsive. The doctor told the family members to just pray.

On 18 December 2011, a miracle happened – three days after taking Lung 1 and Lung 1 plus Lung Phlegm. Breathing normalized and she did not need oxygen anymore. On 20 December 2011 she and her family flew to CA Care Penang. For more, read Part 2 & 3 of this story.

Quotation: According to Big Pharma and the cancer industry, death from chemotherapy is acceptable as long as standard chemo protocol has been adhered to ~ Dr James Forsythe, The Compassionate Oncologist, pg. 91.


RJ is a 55-year-old female. She was a tennis champion.  Sometime in April 2010 she accompanied her daughter to Penang. Her daughter came for a checkup regarding her pregnancy. RJ ended up undergoing a checkup herself.  The gynaecologist suggested that RJ remove an 8 cm tumour in her uterus.  So, RJ underwent a THBSO procedure (total abdominal hysterectomy-bilateral salpingo-oophorectomy).  There was no mention of cancer after the surgery.

About 3 months later, RJ was asked to do a CT scan and PET scan. It was then that she was told she had cancer. She was asked to undergo chemotherapy. She refused.

Not satisfied, RJ went to Singapore for consultation.  A PET scan indicated metastasis to her lungs. RJ underwent chemotherapy  —  a total of about 20 cycles (not sure, lost count) spread over a period of over one and half years.  The drugs used were:  Gemzar & Docetaxel and Doxorubicin & Avastin.  The family was told with chemotherapy, there was a 40 percent chance of cure.

A PET scan on 16 February 2011 indicated:

  1. Multiple bilateral nodules in the lungs (3.2, 2.1 cm) while the smaller ones are likely below the resolution of FDG PET.
  2. No pleural or pericardial effusion noted.
  3. FDG uptake in the rim of a nodule in the right side of the pelvis, abutting the sigmoid colon and superior to the bladder.
  4. Paraaortic and mesenteric nodules.

The doctor told her that her lungs were clear of cancer. But in spite of that, RJ was asked to take the oral drug, Iressa for 3 months. She suffered severe Itchiness throughout the whole body.

She went back to Singapore again – and this time to another hospital. She was told that her problem was due to Iressa and she should stop taking the medication.

A CT scan on 29 September 2011 indicated:

  1. Nodules of sizes ranging from 0.5 cm to 2.9 cm in both lungs. The largest mass in the lingual lobe measures approximately 7.2 x 5.8 cm. This abuts the adjacent pericardium. There is also small amount of pericardial effusion.
  2. There is also a tiny left pleural effusion.

CT of 29 Sept 2011

A medical report written on 5 October 2011 reads: “Depression Counselling:  Cannot accept impending demise. Can’t sleep. Hoping for cure.”

RJ was asked to undergo more chemotherapy. She did as told. She received her last chemo in early December 2011. Two days after returning home from Singapore she started to cough and had fevers. She was hospitalised in Medan on 8 December 2011. While in the hospital her condition deteriorated and she became breathless. In spite of being given oxygen, her breathing was difficult and she was breathing like a fish gasping for air. Her eyes rolled and she was unable to recognize people around her.

At that point, a visitor told her family: “Why don’t you go and see Dr. Teo?” The next day, 14 December 2011, her two daughters flew to CA Care Penang to seek our help. The following is our conversation that day.

Acknowledgment: Permission to use videos and pictures without having to mask the patient’s face is granted by the family.


Cost of Medical Treatment

The daughters told us that in all the treatment cost almost 2 billion rupiahs.  Below  is the cost to undergo chemotherapy in Singapore (value in Singapore dollars. S$1.00 = RM 2.43, S$1.00 = 6,991 IDR).

Table 1: Estimated cost for chemotherapy with Docetaxel + Gemcitabine.

Table 2. Cost of a cycle of Gemcitabine (Gemzar) + Docetaxel

From the above a cycle of chemotherapy would cost approximately S$5,000. For a regimen of 6 cycles the total cost would be about S$45,000. Plus expenses for scanning etc. add in another S$3,000. So all in all, a patient should expect a total cost of about S$50,000 or RM 120,000 or IDR 350 million for the first round of chemotherapy.  But first round may not be good enough. Patients may need more rounds.

The cost goes through the roof when Avastin is used like in this case. But what actually is the benefit of Avastin? Do you know? Click this link to know: https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/05/27/dissecting-chemotherapy-part-6-avastin-does-not-cure-cancer/

Table 3.  Cost of a cycle with Avastin was about S$ 12,000 (RM 29,000 or IDR 84 million).

Some questions for you to ponder on

  1. Having spent about one and a half years on medical treatments in addition to a big bundle of rupiahs –  what do you think of this case? They say the treatment is proven and scientific – but what is the reality? What is proven?
  2. Being alive for one and half years but spending most of the time in and out of the hospital – is it worth it? Have you read this posting – How much is life worth? https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/05/27/dissecting-chemotherapy-part-4-how-much-is-life-worth-erbitux-for-lung-cancer/
  3. Do you believe that chemotherapy has a 40 percent chance of cure as claimed by the doctor? What percentage of success would you give in this case? What does the medical literature say about cure for lung cancer?
  4. This is an era of information technology. Check with the internet and ask if chemo-drugs such as Gemzar, Docetaxel, Doxorubicin and Avastin ever cure this kind of cancer? Patients – you should empower yourself!
  5. Often, alternative practitioners are accused of being charlatans, snake oil peddlers and worst of all provider of false hope! In this case, is the pot calling the kettle black? Who is actually giving false hope to patients?
  6. Does it ever occur to you to ask this question – What if I just DO NOTHING? Do you think you would end up almost dead after one and half years? Read this story about Ella https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2010/12/11/an-evening-with-ella-our-patient-our-friend/

When RJ’s daughters came to us on 14 December 2011, this was what I told them: “In such a situation (mother about to die in the hospital) I really don’t know what to say or do. I can give some herbs and you go home and try them. If she survived, come back again with all the medical reports. Now, what I can say is – just try. If you are lucky and with God’s blessing she might come out of the hospital alive, otherwise I really don’t know.”

This is not the first “about-to-die” case being brought to us. We encounter such cases very often. When nothing else can be done, family members come to us for help. What can I do? Pretending that I am a superman?  Or,  a god of some kind?  Since CA Care’s mission is to help the helpless and the lost, we generally do not turn them away. Make no mistake at all – we do not promise you a cure. We also do not promise we can resolve your problems. What we can do is try our best to help you the way we know how.  We understand that you have suffered enough and also have spent enough money on those medical treatments. CA Care is not here to “suck you dry” of your last dime before you die. We have no intention of misleading or cheating you. If we can provide you with some sense of “last” hope, we are here ready to help – often at the “risk” of being labeled a charlatan or quack. Nevertheless, the risk we take sometimes turn out to be a satisfying success – a miraculous blessing as you will see in this case.

Update: We received a sms informing us that the patient died in the early morning of 21 February 2012.

Ovarian Cancer: After Surgery Left Leg Swollen, Painful and Uncomfortable – Herbs and e-Therapy Helped Her

SLK (S51) is a 49-year-old Indonesian female. For about a year she had complaints of abdominal distension with mild abdominal pain on and off.  She suffered occasional pain during menses. An ultrasound showed a large right ovarian cyst with nodules within it.

SLK came to a private hospital in Penang and underwent a surgery on 4 October 2011.

Things did not turn out right for SLK after the surgery.

  • She was discharged after 8 days in the hospital for her surgery.
  • After being discharged from the hospital, SLK suffered cramps and muscle pull in her left thigh. She had to be hospitalized again. This time it was for 6 days.
  • Unfortunately the pains and discomforts in her leg did not go away. The doctor told her that he had done his best and could not offer any more help.
  • The next day, on 20 October 2011, a desperate SLK and her family came to CA Care. They wanted us to help SLK with the pain in her leg.
  • Unfortunately there were no medical reports and we did not know what had happened. We told the family to go back to the doctor and ask for all the medical records.  We did not get to see SLK again after that.

On 23 November 2011, SLK and her husband came back to see us again – this time with a photograph of the ovarian cyst that had been removed and its histopathology report.  The histopathology report dated 14 October 2011 indicated clear cell  adenocarcinoma of the ovary. Endometriosis.

Let SLK tell her story.

Gist of our conversation:

  1. The surgery for my ovarian cancer was done on 4 October 2011. Before the surgery I was able to walk without any problem. But before that I used to have cramps in my left leg – but no swelling.
  2. There were some varicose veins in my left foot.
  3. Four days after the surgery, my left calf became uncomfortable – muscle pull.
  4. On 12 October 2011, I was discharged from the hospital, i.e. after eight days.
  5. But on 14 October 2011 I had to be readmitted into the hospital because my left leg became swollen. It was painful and heavy. I was discharged on 19 October 2011. While in the hospital I received a total of 12 injections – 2 injections a day. In addition I took Warfarin and Dalfon (a non-steroidal anti-inflammatory drug). These medications did not help much. I was still in pain and my leg felt uncomfortable.
  6. That was why on 20 October 2011 we came and see you.
  7. We returned to Jakarta on 2 November 2011. At that time my leg was still swollen, but the size had somewhat reduced.
  8. At home, I continued taking the doctor’s medication – Warfarin and Dalfon.
  9. I came back to Penang again and saw my doctors (the surgeon and blood specialist-oncologist) on 18 November 2011. The oncologist asked me to continue taking the Warfarin for another six months and this time with an increased dosage. The doctor said I would be cured after six months.  In the meantime, I was asked to undergo chemotherapy for my ovarian cancer.
  10. I refused to undergo chemotherapy. I also did not want to take the Warfarin anymore. We waited for you to return from Laos and came to see you.

CA Care from 23 November to 28 November 2011

  1. I took the herbs that you prescribed me and also underwent the e-Therapy. These treatments helped me.
  2. After three times of e-Therapy, I could now walk. And my leg did not swell any more. Previously if I walked, my left leg become swollen. I could now walk to the market and also travel by bus. I felt lighter when I walked. Before coming to CA Care I could not walk like I do now.
  3. Husband: Now she can walk so far – from Gurney Park to Pulau Tikus market – with no problem. Before your treatment, we had to take a taxi to come and see you. Now we just take the bus and walked to wherever we want to go.

Watch this video carefully and see how SLK walked, before and after the herbs plus the e-Therapy


An Evening With Ella: Our Patient, Our Friend

At the middle of September 2009, Ella and her friend, Helen, came to Penang for a week’s holiday by theBatu Feringghi Beach. It was our pleasure to welcome her to this Island Paradise. Ella visited our center on Friday afternoon and got to meet some patients during our CA Care session. One evening we sat down to talk after a buffet dinner at the Park Royal. Listen to what we talked about and at the same time learn some survival tips from this full-of-life-friend from Melbourne.

How does the herbal tea taste like?

Yak, horrible isn’t it?

A concoction of snake venom and mud water!

A special brew from the Snake Oil Peddler of Malaysia? (That is what people in the West like to call people across the fence from them!)

The tea can’t be that bad if you want to walk through life with much laughter …

Oh no, three doctors misdiagnosed your problem?

That could happen even in Melbourne?

It took a year before the fourth doctor found out what was really wrong with you?

That happened in Melbourne, Australia?

Oh no, again.

No chemo after surgery – never ever!

Doctor said she was a brave lady.

Indeed it takes a lot more courage to say no to chemo and decide to take the alternative path.

The surgeon said: No chemo, you have three months. With chemo, it would be two-and-a-half years.


What would your common sense say to that?

You have a choice.

After three months of “house arrest” life came back to normalcy again.

She is very much alive and enjoying life to the fullest.

That includes having a one-week holiday in Penang.

And that happened almost a year after surgery and after having refused chemo!

Missing out on chemo was not that bad after all!

She had lived three times over what her doctor gave her!

Given a choice – which one would you choose?

Do chemo and live for two-and-a-half year inclusive of the side effects,

OR, have a solid one-year life of happiness without chemo?

My Take

We are glad that we are able to help Ella in her time of need. We are even more happy and grateful to the Almighty to see her last week – so well and full of life. There are a few things we can learn from Ella.

  1. Patients have choices or options. You choose what you believe in and live with the consequences of your choice – for good or for bad. There is no point trying to point fingers at others when things go wrong. Remember, it was your choice. Ella knew what she wanted. She empowered herself well ahead of time about what cancer really is and what chemo could do to her. She was not blind when she made her choice.
  2. Ella was so lively and positive in her attitude. That is the way it should be. Do what you have to do first, to help yourself and then be happy with it. Live a positive life.
  3. Ella said she wanted to prove her doctor wrong! Good to have something to look forward to, a wish in life so to say. At CA Care we have seen such predictions proven wrong most of the time. But let us not blame the doctors. They only say things based on what they know or have been taught. And that is all there is to it. I have since realized about the tight system or box that they are brought up in. Patients who choose to go into the box with them have a limited view about the well known limited choices of surgery, chemo or radiation. Get out of the box and you see a totally different view for your problem. When we see Ella again in Penang, she would have proven her doctor wrong!
  4. Christmas time is party time with all the so-called great and wonderful food. Ella enjoyed the celebration but chose to stick to her healthy diet. Many patients don’t have that will power. Last night a lung patient came and said: Oh, the Hari Raya – we went home to our kampong and I “tak tahan” (cannot stand) seeing those foods. So I ate some, here and there. I suffered after I came home.

Ella is not a kiasu (afraid-to-lose-want-to-win-all-the-time) type. Kiasus like to ask a lot of questions but it is  no use – they don’t believe in what we do.

Our therapy is not easy to follow. It is not for any Tom, Dick and Harry. Is not for the faint hearted either. Patients need to be brave and be fully commitment to find their own healing. There is no magic bullet. It requires a change in lifestyle, diet and attitude towards life. We can show you the way, but you have to travel the road yourself. For that reason, it is a pleasure and our privilege to be able to help such a person like Ella – not a kiasu but ever ready to help herself. And we share the joy of her healing.

An E-mail from Ella

15 October 2009

Hi Chris and Im,

I have viewed the video and it is fine.  Thank you, it would be good if it gives people hope to be open minded and believe that cancer need not be a death sentence, if they choose to adopt the more natural and none invasive approach.

They need to question their doctors: Why they condemn the natural way of treating cancer; Where do they get the proof that these treatments do not work. If it is from their medical journals then this is a bias conclusion as it is in the interest of their profession to dominate the sickness industry.

We have been brainwashed for too long into thinking that this INDUSTRY has our best interest at heart. If this was so then they would not seek out and destroy the real facts and evidence which has been proven to assist the many illnesses we see in our society to-day.

In my research, I have found that the people whom are speaking out against the use of chemo and radiation are in fact medical doctors and scientists themselves, who see the same miserable results time and time again.

Sadly their findings are rarely printed in the notable medical journals like the LANCET etc.

Thinking of you both with much love, Ella.

Special Note

Ella was told by her surgeon that if she did not go chemotherapy, she would have only three months to live. With chemo and radiation, she would have two and a half years.

Time has proved that the surgeon’s prognosis is wrong! Ella is on our herbs for the past three years and is doing fine up to this day.

E-mail of 21 October 2010

Hi Chris and Im,

All is well here in Australia and we are all looking forward to some warmth as it has been a long winter.  Right now the birds are singing as I have just fed them their daily feed of wild bird seed. We can learn a valuable lesson from them as no matter if they are big or small, they all get their share.  It was like when I lived in Africa and had the opportunity to witness the animals come to the water holes at night and although they hunt each other for food by day, it seems they have an instinct to share the water as they all know how important it is to survival. If only we humans could adopt the practice of sharing rather than the greed which has taken over.

Some days I just sit in a quiet area of my garden and I can picture you both in your home or clinic doing the good work you do.  Bless you both.

Next year we may be moving home as we want a bigger garden so as we can grow our own food as it is getting harder and harder to obtain good clean food. Our gardens here are facing the wrong way and do not collect enough sunshine.  We have a pool where all the sun is.

I am itching to return to Penang so next year. I will try and make it happen. I down load all your stories for future references. They are amazing.

My thoughts and love are with you each day, keep well.  Love Ella  xxx


June Regained Her Health After 8 Days on e-Therapy

June (not real name) was 42-years old when she was diagnosed with ovarian cancer in December 2006. A TAHBO surgery was performed. The histopathology report confirmed a bilateral ovarian adenocarcinoma with metastasis to the omentum.

June underwent 6 cycles of chemotherapy and at the same time was started on CA Care herbs. Unlike others, she did not suffer from the side effects of chemo. Unfortunately in December 2008, a scan showed tumour recurrence, with a 2.6 x 2.1 x 3.2 cm mass seen in the medial part of the spleen – this was probably a splenic metastasis.

June was asked to undergo more chemo. In no uncertain term her doctor told her: If you do not do chemotherapy, within the next 3 months your condition would deteriorate to the extent that I would not be able to help you anymore. You are taking your life for granted. June adamantly declined chemo and stayed on with the herbs. Three months passed, June was well. After six months June presented herself to her doctor. During this visit the doctor asked June to find out from Professor Teo what herbs she was taking. Then at another meeting with her doctor, June was asked if she would continue to take the herbs or would consider chemo.

June was well until about March 2010 when she started to develop problems. I requested June’s husband to bring her to Penang for a week to undergo our e-Therapy. So June came on 8 March 2010 and the first e-Therapy was started right away. At the time I was rather concerned if June was able to even up walk up to my study upstairs. Her health condition was not good. After three days her facial expression changed from pale to bright and after 8 days she was as fit as a fiddle. It was most satisfying to see the brilliant smile in her face. She was so full of energy.

June went home to Kuala Lumpur and the next day went around shopping!

The following are excerpts of our video conversation.

Chris: Before you came to see us … that was last Monday (8 March2010) and this is now Wednesday (17 March) … compared to now, is there any difference in your health?

J: Yes, I feel very normal now.

C: When you came, how did you feel?

J: Short of breath, very tired, very sickly, stomachaches and pains, could not walk properly, very bad appetite, difficult to sleep.

C: Okay, all these … like appetite, how is it now?

J: Very good.

C: Can you sleep well?

J: Yes.

C: Walking?

J: No problem.

C: You said you were tired?

J: This morning not too bad but yesterday after 3 p.m. onwards … flat (Note: this was due to the side effects of the e- therapy).

C: You believe that (the therapy) helped you?

J: Yes.

C: You feel much better now?

J: Yes, much better.

C: You inspire me … honestly, I don’t believe in this (therapy) … well, but when I look at your face, I know that it was good.

Side effects of e-Therapy

C: Now… flat (out tired) and aches in the bones?

J: This was the second time … after the treatment. Yesterday was worse than the first time.

Husband: Yesterday she had fevers.

A Chat with the Husband

H: I came on Monday. Today it is Tuesday – 8 days of therapy. (Before she came here) on Saturday and Sunday, she slept the whole day. She did not have any strength at all. Then there was no appetite.

C: That was when you were in KL (Kuala Lumpur)?

H: Yes, on Monday night was the treatment. Tuesday there were some pains and after that on Wednesday there were no more pains.

C: You feel that it (the therapy) helps her?

H: It helps. No more pains and now she can eat a lot.

C: I do not believe – but then I become a believer. It is better that way than to believe first and start to bluff people that it works. You have to start from not believing anything, see for yourself … then believe!


Dying In the ICU After Surgery for Ovarian Cancer and Chemo for Lymphoma

(May this failing be a “Guiding Light” to those who come after her)

Chinese New Year (January/February 2009) was a time of celebration. Wan, a 30-year-old, married female with a 2-year-old child, visited her mother in Kedah. She enjoyed the food that mom cooked for that day. Wan was OK then – healthy as mom’s eyes can see. But after the meal, she felt some “wind” in her stomach. Mom suggested that she consulted a doctor. She did not get to see any doctor until 2 weeks later. Unexpected, this was the beginning of a tragic road to her quick death?

Wan’s mother and auntie came to seek our help on the morning of 25 March 2009. This was what had happened.

Wan went to see a doctor in a private hospital. She was told that she had ovarian cancer and needed an operation. Wan then moved on to another private hospital believing that another doctor was better able to handle her case. On 16 February 2009, Wan underwent an operation to remove her so-called cancer in the ovary. It was a total hysterectomy. But Wan’s condition did not improve in spite of the surgery. Her stomach was still bloated. Later she became breathless. While still in the hospital for a week, her lungs were filled with fluid. The doctor tapped out the fluid and she was able to breath.

Wan was still not well. She felt heaty. Wan was referred to an oncologist of the hospital for subsequent management. This doctor said Wan’s problem was actually due to lymphoma and the primary was not the ovary. The doctor also warned that Wan must undergo chemotherapy immediately. There would be no time to wait because the cancer was aggressive and was very serious.

On Monday, 2 March 2009, Wan was started on chemotherapy. The next day (Tuesday) she was alright. However, in the early morning (about 2.30 a.m.) of Wednesday, 4 March 2009, Wan started to have pains in her abdomen. The nurse gave her an injection for gastric. Later, the pains became unbearable and she was given a pain killer injection. On the morning of Wednesday, Wan started to have diarrhea. Later she had a fit, ground her teeth, became breathless and at one time her heart stopped beating. At 10 a.m. of Wednesday she was admitted into the ICU. Her face and hands were swollen. She was given oxygen and the doctor induced her into a coma and she became unconscious. On Saturday, 21 March her lungs had “bubbles” and she could not breathe. Her doctor had to fit tubes on both side of her chest to drain fluid out.

So from 2 March until 25 March 2009, Wan was in the ICU struggling to stay alive.

Just before Wan’s mother and aunty came to see us, they were told by the doctor that Wan’s chance of survival was very minimal.  The family can expect her to die any time.

See the video and read the transcript of our conversation.

Mother: She was admitted on Sunday. On Monday they operated on her. It was a total hysterectomy. However, her tummy was still big after the operation and she was breathless. On checking they found there was fluid in her lungs. The fluid was drained. She felt better after that. But she always felt hot. It is not a fever. The air-conditioner was set at 10 degrees and she would still be perspiring. On further checking, they said it is lymphoma.

Chris: How long was she in the hospital? Has she gone home?

M: No, she hasn’t gone home at all. She is still in hospital. It’s been more than a month now.  She was there since February.

Aunty: Since the operation, she hasn’t gone home. After her lung problem, she was referred to another doctor.

C: After draining the fluid from the lungs, she was okay?

M & A: Yes

C: Why was she still in hospital?

A: Because they wanted to give her chemo.

C: She was not allowed to go home first?

A: They say cannot wait. It is a very aggressive type. It is already very serious. Chemo must be done immediately.

C: When was the chemo done?

A: Only once, on Monday.

M: After that she was alright. She was alright on Tuesday. But at night, early on Wednesday morning around 2:30 a.m., she complained of stomach pains until daybreak.  She was given injections for gastric, as well as a pain killer. She had diarrhea. Her stools were very dark. She had diarrhea again from 7.00 am to 8.00 am. She had pains in her stomach again. She asked me to get the doctor to check her quickly as she could not stand the pains anymore. She was struggling in bed, kicking the bed very hard. She was biting and grinding her teeth. It looked as if she was having a fit.

When the doctor came, I explained what had happened (the events that took place throughout the night and morning). He did a routine check on her and left. He did not answer my questions or say anything. He just left.

I was waiting for some pain killer to be administered, but later when a nurse passed by, I asked about the pain killer and she explained that the pain killer had already been given the night before. So, they could not give her another pain injection now. Then she just went away.

I then requested for my daughter to be cleaned up. And as the nurse was cleaning her, she started to feel breathless. Then suddenly her head turned to one side, and a little foamy saliva started to drool out of her mouth. I screamed and a sister came in to adjust her drip and a couple of things. Actually, her heart stopped beating for a while.

C: Her heart stopped?

M: Yes, it did. They revived her. (by banging, etc – we were not allowed to see). An hour later, about 10:00 a.m. she was brought to the ICU. She is there until today. She is still there – unconscious. When they brought her in, her face was already swollen. The neck, shoulder and arms were swollen too. She looked very different. The swelling subsided on the third day. And now, she looked very thin.

C: How is she now?

A: Still unconscious. Never wake up yet. It is already about 20 days.

M: Cannot let her wake up. She is given oxygen. When the oxygen is removed, her pressure dropped. They kept putting her to sleep. We’ve never spoken to her since she went in.

A: I spoke to the doctor. He said she cannot let her wake up as the oxygen pressure is very high. She may not be able to take the high pressure. That is why they made sure she is totally unconscious.

M: Last Saturday, they drained more fluid from her lungs. It looks like there is very little chance of saving her. This morning, the doctor told us to be prepared. The doctor said her condition is very serious and the cancer will spread very fast.

A: I was wondering why the chemo must be done when she was still so weak.

M: Actually after the operation, she was alright. She could watch television and was normal. The nurse asked her to get up and walk and she got up and walked – just a little breathless at first (Mother cried).

C: If it is possible, you can start by giving her Capsule A and Juvo (food supplement made from a variety of beans). If after 2 or 3 days, there is some progress, then we can slowly add more herbs. It is a very difficult situation. What is going to happen the next few days no one can tell. But we will try our best.

A: They already conceded they could not do anything else anymore for her.


The total cost of her treatment as of 24 March 2009 is RM 194,730.13. Indeed it is very expensive to die in this modern day scientific age.

Can any body answer this question: Her mother told us: When the doctor came, I explained what had happened (the events that took place throughout the night and morning). He did a routine check on her and left. He did not answer my questions or say anything. He just left. Why did the doctor just left without answering her question? In a similar case, Sam and his wife were coerced into consenting to a liver operation on Sam. The surgeon even hugged Sam’s wife and assured her everything was going to be alright. At the same time warned that he must be operated on immediately. But after the cancer had recurred, the surgeon became “hostile” and did not even want to talk to them. Why is this so?

There is an Arab saying: Haste is from the Devil. Wan did not even have a chance to recuperate properly from her surgery. She was immediately asked to go for chemotherapy. She was told the cancer was aggressive. How true is this? Before she came into the hospital she was alright. What made the cancer aggressive? Or is this a spin – a veiled threat to instill fear into patients so that they would agree to chemotherapy?

The doctor’s medical report indicated that Wan required an emergency dialysis. Her renal function had reversed. What had her kidney failed? What could be the cause? The toxic chemo-drugs? Wan did not have such a problem before.