Nocturia – frequent night time urination resolved by herbal therapy

MM is a 45-year-old housewife. She came to us for problems of backache and severe pain during her periods (her story in another article). As with all patients we read her meridian energy using the AcuGraph (below).  Only 3 of the 12 meridians were normal (green), 5 meridians were split and 4 meridians were low.

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From our experience, those with low or split bladder meridian (BL is blue, arrow) may have problems of frequent urination at night.  (See our previous article: http://ejtcm.com/2011/03/25/low-or-split-bladder-meridian-may-result-in-frequent-urination/). In addition, she also had low KI (kidney) and SP (Spleen) meridian energy.  The significance of this is explained below.

We asked MM if nocturia was also her problem. Her answer was YES – urination 3 to 4 times each night. It is indeed a nuisance having to waking up so often, besides depriving her of a good sound sleep. We suggested that MM take the herbal tea, A-Kid-6, for 2 weeks to try and resolve her problem.

We got to met MM again 2 months later and she told us her nocturia was resolved after taking the herbal tea. Listen to what she said below:

Traditional Chinese Medicine (TCM ) View of Bladder Function

TCM views the kidney and bladder as an interrelated pair that controls water in the body.  The function of the bladder – i.e. storage and discharge of the urine, depends upon Kidney Qi. If Kidney Qi is sufficient the bladder will function normally and urination is well controlled.

If Kidney Qi is deficient the bladder becomes dysfunctional. Disharmony of the Bladder meridian can lead to problems such as difficult urination, incontinence (inability to control proper urination), painful eyes, runny nose, nose bleeding, nasal congestion, pain in the head, neck, back, groin and buttock.

According to Steven Clavey (in Fluid physiology and pathology in TCM) nocturia is due to exhausted kidney yang or spleen and kidney yang deficiency. However, in cases where the symptoms are less severe, nocturia can be due to Bladder qi deficiency.

Acknowledgement: We record our sincere thanks to Dr. Adrian Larsen, President of Miridia Technology Inc., USA, for his generosity in providing a unit of AcuGraph 3 for our research at CA Care.

 

Part 5: Lessons We Can Learn From This Case

This article comes in five parts:
Part 1: PSA Came Tumbling Down: From 6,963 to 200 and Severe Pains Vanished
Part 2: Grim Prognosis
Part 3: Miraculous Healing
Part 4: Bonus Effects and Challenges
Part 5: Lessons We Can Learn From This Case

I believe one of the reasons why CA Care has been successful all these years is because we adopted the attitude that patients are our teachers. We can learn a lot from our patients. But if we treat patients as only numbers or record cards, then we remain deaf, dumb and blind to their problems and healing. So how can we really help them?

Our Advice to All Patients

 

Advice No 1: Be Patient and Be Grateful

So please be patient.  I am aware that you and your family are suffering but what can we do? Remember healing takes time.  There is no instant or magic bullet for cancer. I often say this to patients: If you can eat, can sleep and have no pains – Be Happy! At least in this case, the patient can still move about without any pain using the wheelchair.

I asked the patient: Reflect back on where you were one year ago. Are you better off now? Yes, absolutely.  Remember, this patient and his family was under extreme stress and uncertainty not too long ago. His wife lost 9 kg and his daughter also lost 9 kg within just a few weeks. Now, all is well except that the patient cannot walk by himself yet or eat anything he likes.

Learn to be contented and to be grateful for what we are each day. Don’t let unrealistic greed overcome us.

Advice No 2: Share your problem and also your success with others

How did Budi know of your problem? The daughter replied: I was lost and did not know what to do when cancer struck my father. I shared my problem with all my friends. And one of her friends is Pak Budi. And Pak Budi benefited from our therapy!

Indeed, it is good to share your problems with others. Who knows others may offer you some solutions – giving you a different perspective of how to solve your problem. Unfortunately, some people don’t want to share. They get struck in the rut – lost in the maze and do not know what to do.

Unfortunately, there is a down side of sharing. Some friends would probably offer you solutions that could lead to a disaster. With many suggestions – good or bad – you will get confused. As the daughter said:  Some told me that without chemotherapy, the cancer would spread faster!

 In fact, this is the selling point of most doctors and oncologists. They would say: With chemotherapy or radiotherapy, at least you can control the cancer. Or at least we can stop it from spreading even if we cannot cure it.

What a misinformation! Latest researches had shown that chemotherapy makes the cancer more aggressive and makes the cancer spread faster! Look out for our article (coming soon):  Chemotherapy SPREAD and MAKES cancer more aggressive!

Sharing your success: Pak, do you want me to cover your face in this video presentation? No, no. Let me share my experiences with others. I committed NO crime. There is nothing shameful about this.

My response: Yes, you have not committed any sin either. All of us do get sick – it is just a matter of how serious the illness it. I believe this story will be able to help and inspire others. This success has impacted me very much. In fact, this gives me all the reason why I should continue with our work at CA Care – success like this!

Advice No 3: Take care of your diet

Pak, take care of your diet! Do not take sugar or oil (fats). Visiting Surabaya and Malang, I observed that Indonesians here take too much sugar! They put sugar in everything they eat! The even put sugar is mee bakso! Sugar is not good for you!

Why this patient succeeded in finding his healing?

Almost all people who come to seek our help expect us to cure them. No, we cannot cure you. And only 30 percent who come find healing. You may want to ask how.  I shall give you the answer based on this case.

  • 1. Commitment and belief: The patient’s daughter wrote me an e-mail on 8 February 2012 from a far away land – 3 hours flight from Penang. On 10 February 2012, she was sitting with us at CA Care Penang trying to figure out what to do for her father. Don’t you see her commitment and belief? She was serious. On the contrary I have many e-mails asking for help – but they only want to do it by sitting in front of the computer! Some even told me that they would like an appointment 2 to 3 months later! But such people never turn up anyway. 

Granted, I learned from our conversation that the family was doubtful initially. Good – be skeptical.  Learn from this quotation: The business of science is to seek new knowledge, To test old assumptions And approach what we think we know with a skeptical eye ~ B. Barnes.

It is foolish to believe everything that you are told – even by your doctors! And it is equally foolish to believe all information found in the Internet.

This patient’s confidence grew when, after a month on our therapy and hormonal injection, his PSA came down by 50 percent. Go by the evidence and your experience and NOT what others tell you.

2. Willingness to share:  The value of sharing can work both ways – good or bad. In this case, the patient’s family was at a lost – bengong. They did not know what t do and what path to take. Patient’s daughter shared her problem with all her friends. This sharing resulted in Pak Budi telling her about CA Care. Pak Budi has firsthand experience with CA Care. His PSA also dropped after taking our herbs and changing his diet. If you want to believe someone, find someone who really has firsthand experience, not one who only blows hot air!

  • 3. Willingness to change: To take a new path which you have not gone through before is stressful enough and  to be told to change your diet and lifestyle which you have been used to for ages, would be real hard – impossible for some people.  Then you have to contend with the herbs which taste bitter and smell awful. So this is your choice – take it or go find something easier to follow.

4. Strong family support: Cancer does not only involve a patient, it involves everyone in the family.  The lives of everyone in the family are turned upside down when cancer strikes a member of the family. No doubt about that. And everyone in the family suffers. And for the patient to survive, he/she needs strong support from his/her spouse and children besides those close to him/her. I do not see how any patient can make it without the love and support of those around him/her.

Let me share what I learned from this amazing case.

1. Most people do not know anything about cancer. So when cancer strikes someone in the family everyone panic and did not know what to do. Within the next few days, the patient and his/her family will have to submit to treatments. But what treatment?  That is a big and sometime life-and-death question to answer.

How many of us take this Chinese proverb seriously – Dig the well before you are thirsty. In this case, the patient was lucky. Someone else has already dug a well! He found a short-cut to knowledge through Pak Budi, his daughter’s friend.

Over the years I have realized that knowledge is important and as such we, at CA Care, make it our mission to educate those who want to know about cancer so that we are not caught unaware.

Perhaps, some people don’t want to know about this dreaded disease. Some Chinese believe it is soi  (bad luck) getting involved in something evil when you are still healthy. My breast cancer book was displayed in one exclusive club in Penang. I was told NO one would even give it a glance! After all, if you are rich what is there to worry? If you happen to get cancer, there is always the best hospital to go to. Then there is the best oncologist to take care of you. And they will give you the best and most expensive poison to fight your cancer. That’s what you naïve mind would tell you – your money can buy you a cure.

Don’t you think that if you don’t know a road map, you will get lost? Of course, you would say: I have the money to hire a guide! But what if your expensive guide would only show you one – and only one – track to take?

My patient and friend, the late SK Chew told me: I saw the oncologist. He told me to do the chemo. When I saw everybody do chemo, everybody do radiotherapy, I told myself this must be the only way.  I went back to the doctor and asked him to do the chemo on me. So Chew  underwent both chemotherapy and radiotherapy. He did not get well but instead ended up with more tumours in his liver.  And they were growing in size. Chew said: I knew then that I had taken the wrong path. I started to find other ways. In this case, Chew was lucky. He survived the treatment. Some died during or after the aggressive, toxic treatment.

2. Before we parted, this patient made a request. Please do more research and come up with a new cure for him. I understood his request and his hope. For a sick person – he only has one request or aim in life –  to get well again. And some patients would go to any extent to achieve this. Unfortunately in cancer, the game is difficult and to score a goal is extremely remote.

There is nothing wrong to hope but patients beware! There are enough vultures around ever ready to exploit this weakness of yours. These days treatment of cancer is a big money making business – for both the doctors and the alternative healers. So beware. Don’t just buy into anything that promises you an instant cure for your cancer. I know of nothing that can really cure cancer.

These days when you get cancer and is being treated in a private hospital, be ready to spend RM 100,000 to RM 200,000 for the treatment. And the upper limit? It can run into millions, that is, if you have the money to spend or are still alive to receive the treatment. You can be told to take drugs that can cost RM 10,000 to RM 20,000 per month but they do not cure anything! At best they prolong your life (or misery) by a few days, weeks or months. What good is that? Click here to read more:

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/05/27/dissecting-chemotherapy-part-4-how-much-is-life-worth-erbitux-for-lung-cancer/

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/05/27/dissecting-chemotherapy-part-6-avastin-does-not-cure-cancer/

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2012/11/13/part-1-the-high-cost-of-staying-alive-in-a-private-hospital/

  • 3. This patient was told that for those with PSA 1,000 and above they better get ready to die! And what about this patient who had a PSA of 6,962? How soon would he die? But, as I often tell patients: Believe the diagnosis but do not believe the prognosis!

Reflect of the quotation below:

Wrong

Patient-knows-best

 CA Care: Making a Difference and Putting a Smile Back on Your Face

When patients come to us they need encouragement. On the other hand, we – the healers – also need encouragement.

Let me just quote what Dr. Seymour Brenner, a radiologist from New York said:  The frustration of cancer is that we really don’t know what we are doing … it is frustrating thing to go to school for 30 years, to work for 20 … and at the age of 60 not know what you’re doing.

Dr. Bernie Siegel, a surgeon wrote: Too many doctors are depressed because they only see their failures – all you know is that everyone has cancer, everyone dies. And it just wears you out.

 

Study this video carefully.  When the patient’s daughter and daughter-in-law came to seek our help on 11 February 2012, none of us dared to smile! The situation was too grim then. The prognosis was not good. I must frankly say that I did not see any glimmer of hope in this case!

But look at the video clip taken a year later, 13 February 2013.

Indeed, what we do at CA Care does make a difference! A great difference! We are able to put smiles back onto everyone’s faces! This is indeed most satisfying which no amount of money can ever buy. Praise the Lord!

Part 4: CA Care Therapy: Bonus Effects & Challenges

This article comes in five parts:
Part 1: PSA Came Tumbling Down: From 6,963 to 200 and Severe Pains Vanished
Part 2: Grim Prognosis
Part 3: Miraculous Healing
Part 4: Bonus Effects and Challenges
Part 5: Lessons We Can Learn From This Case

 

Very often, patients are warned not to take herbs because of the possible adverse reactions or side effects. Really?  You are often told: Herbs will harm or damage the liver or kidney and they will make things worse for you! Never mind if the chemo-drugs that are pumped into you are actually poisonous cocktail! Or the radiation they give you is damaging to your body. And are told that these – some chemo-drugs and radiation are by themselves carcinogenic – i.e. they cause cancer?

Over my 16 years dealing with herbs for cancer, I see this very often  — Herbs help cancer patients. Very often too if you take herbs, you get unexpected bonus not side effects. Hence, I coin this word – bonus effects (and not side effects).  Listen to this video.

 

 

Gist of our conversation.

Bonus Effect 1: New Hair Growth

  • He has more hairs now on his head? Yes, according to the patient and also his daughter! Previously patient was bald on top of his head. Now there are new hairs growing. 

Comment: This bonus effect of hair growth has been reported by other patients as well before this. I too experience growth of black hairs on my head with the e-Therapy.

Bonus Effect 2: Hypertension Gone

  • When patient was in his 60s he developed hypertension. He had to take high blood pressure medication for the past 10 years. Now he is no more taking hypertension medication since he was started on the CA Care Therapy.
  • Before our therapy, his blood pressure was around 150 to 170/100. After the CA Care Therapy it is now 120/80.
  • Who asked you to stop the hypertension medication? Daughter: I did it on my own without anyone asking me to do that!
  • Patient said after he completely changed his diet to fruits and vegetables and avoided sugar, meat and salt in his diet per our advice, his blood pressed normalized. Up to this day, patient has not taken any hypertension medication.

Comment:  I was told that once a patient is on hypertension medication, he /she would be hooked on to this medication for life! Is that not a myth? This case is nothing unusual at all. Many patients before this have told us that after being on our therapy for a few months, their blood pressure improved and they come out of their hypertension medication.

Good news for patients but bad news for the doctors and drug companies!

Almost all patients who come to us want a cure for their problems.  We understand their request but healing does not come on a silver platter. Patients have to work for their healing and healing does not come easy or at the whims and fancies of patients.  Only 30 percent of those who come to us benefit, the remaining 70 percent just cannot. Let me repeat, just cannot. This is because they want to find healing on their own terms.

During our conversation with this patient that night in Surabaya, I asked him about the challenges he had to face while on our therapy.

Challenge No 1: Herbs are difficult to take!

  • Do you find our herbal teas difficult to drink?  Yes. They are bitter! But I persisted and never stop taking them. Of course, I prefer if they are in capsule forms!

Comment:  We understand but we do not wish to compromise on their effectiveness. Over the years we know that our herbal teas do a lot of good to patients. And we want to keep it that way! Processing them – extracting, concentrating, etc., will make them less effective (by 70 percent?) and we do not want to compromise on that! Of course, for marketing purposes —  make the teas like medical drugs and patients would be happier and more patients will come to us!

Challenge No 2: Change of diet. You can’t eat what you like!

  • You have to change your diet – wah, difficult for you to do that? Previously I ate a lot of meat and drank a lot of soft drink – lots of Coca Cola everyday! After your advice, I changed my diet completely – none of these anymore.
  • Are you angry at me? Because you cannot eat what you like?. I am compelled to follow your advice! After the PSA dropped from 6,962 to 3,103 within a month, I totally believed in your advice! Daughter: Initially we were skeptical!
  • In November 2012, the PSA shot up from 163.7 to 197.9. What did you do wrong?  I ate a lot of peanuts like never before!
  • Do you now believe that food is important for you? Absolutely yes!

Challenge No 3: Stressful Experience

  • Ibu (mama) what have you got to share? Wife: Initially it was very stressful for us. I lost 9 kg having to cope with his problem. Previously he was not able to sleep at night. According to the son, every half an hour patient called for attention. The family members took turns to massage or apply ointment for the patient throughout the night. And he was in severe pain. Now, he is okay. Can sleep well and does not need any more massage.

Challenge No 4: Looking forward to being able to walk again

  • Pak, you have no more problem – no pain, can sleep, can eat – now the only problem is to be able to walk again. Please be patient – healing takes time! Daughter: It is already too long.
  • Patient made a request before we parted:  I hope you can find new herbs to cure this problem. I replied:  Day and night for the past many years, I did nothing else but research and research for something better for my patients. Im: If we find some new we will surely let you know.

Comment:  One patient from Medan was in similar situation. He remained immobilized in bed for two years. Then one day he and his family appeared at our centre – he was able to walk again! In fact the story of Sujo inspired me a lot. I want to believe that this patient would be another Sujo.  I am optimistic. For full story click this link: https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2012/12/01/lung-cancer-an-outstanding-survivor/

Prostate-Bone Cancer Part 3: Miraculous Healing

This article comes in five parts:
Part 1: PSA Came Tumbling Down: From 6,963 to 200 and Severe Pains Vanished
Part 2: Grim Prognosis
Part 3: Miraculous Healing
Part 4: Bonus Effects and Challenges
Part 5: Lessons We Can Learn From This Case

 

1: Before CA Care Therapy

 

2: Miraculous Healing

Gist of our conversation:

  • Before undergoing the CA Care Therapy, patient was unable to move, sit or walk. He had to lie down on the bed and always in one (right) position. Any movement invited severe pains.  The severe pain caused him to sweat profusely.
  • He was unable to sleep throughout the night and someone (wife or children) had to attend to him every half an hour – massaging or applying ointment. So every member of the family took turn to take care of the patient. It was stressful for everybody. His daughter lost 9 kg in weight. Similarly his wife became thin.
  • Patient started to take the herbs and changed his diet. There was no immediate relief.  The pains persisted and his movements were impaired.
  • Why did you persist on taking the herbs if this did not help you?  About a month later, his PSA dropped from 6,962 to 3,013. This gave much encouragement to the patient and his family. He continued doing what he was doing. The next PSA test showed the value decreased further.
  • Three months on CA Care Therapy, patient’s health improved. His pains were less and he could turn around a bit.
  • Four months on CA Care Therapy he could be carried into his daughter jeep and took a ride to his son’s home everyday. The pains were bearable. His sleep was good. He was also able to control his urination. Previously he suffered from incontinence.
  • Did you take any doctor’s medication? No, not on any medical drugs like Casodex or painkillers whatsoever. However, based on our recommendation, patient received a monthly injection of Zoladex. He started to receive Zoladex injection on 1 March 2012.
  • By August 2012 – six months on CA Care Therapy, there was no more pain. His legs which previously were unable to move and had no feelings started to regain feelings. He was able to move his legs. His back pains were totally gone. And he could turn to the left or right without any discomforts.
  • What is your main problem now? Patient is still not able to walk but he can down stand up by himself while holding onto some support.
  • Patient was told by his doctor that generally those with PSA 1,000 and above would die soon. Surgery would not help. When patient told his doctor that he was on herbs, the doctor said: Continue taking them. The doctor requested to see the herbs. For this case, the doctor had lifted up his hands in surrender!

Prostate-Bone Cancer — Part 2: Grim Prognosis

This article comes in five parts:
Part 1: PSA Came Tumbling Down: From 6,963 to 200 and Severe Pains Vanished
Part 2: Grim Prognosis
Part 3: Miraculous Healing
Part 4: Bonus Effects and Challenges
Part 5: Lessons We Can Learn From This Case

 

Generally, during the Chinese New Year season, our CA Care family – Yeong & Khadijah from Kuala Lumpur, Pak Teddy from Jakarta and Im and I from Penang – would spend our time together in a city in Indonesia. This time we decided to go to Surabaya and climb Mount Bromo. What an exciting time we had!

This time too, I broke tradition by requesting to meet with our prostate cancer patient in Surabaya. So, on the evening of 13 February 2013, all of us got to meet this patient. Let me share with you his miraculous healing story.

With PSA Above 1,000 You Die!

Gist of our conversation:

  • One year ago, January 2012, patient suffered pain in his backbone which later resulted in not being able to move, sit and walk. Before this episode, patient was an active person and used to walk 7 km every morning.
  • He consulted a neurologist who said his problem was due to rheumatism. The drugs prescribed by the doctor did not cure him.
  • An X-ray and MRI showed bone destruction and the doctor said it was due to bone cancer. Further examination showed the cancer had not spread to the brain or lung.
  • PSA was elevated. The lab report indicated it was more than 100 (which could mean 10,000!).
  • Patient and his family consulted with four doctors and all of them gave different views and advices.
  • In the family, when cancer struck so suddenly like this, everyone was at a loss – not knowing what to do. Different people offered different opinions.  Some said: Go for chemotherapy, while others said: With chemotherapy you die!  Patient considered going to China for treatment and was in the process of applying his passport. But he ended up in Penang instead!
  • How did he get to know CA Care? Patient’s daughter shared her problem with her friends. One of her friends is Pak Budi who happened to be our patient. This patient said: Without Budi, we would have gone for chemo, etc. We didn’t know anything about cancer. Budi told us about you.
  • Did you have friends or know of anyone you have undergone chemotherapy for their cancer? Yes, and they die!
  • According to the doctors, if the PSA has gone above 1,000 the patient would die! And here it is this patient! His initially PSA was 6,962 (as of 22 February 2012). Indeed his prognosis was grim.

Believe the diagnosis but don’t believe the prognosis!

Prostate-Bone Cancer– Part 1: PSA Came Tumbling Down: From 6,963 to 200 and Severe Pains Vanished

This article comes in five parts:

Part 1: PSA Came Tumbling Down: From 6,963 to 200 and Severe Pains Vanished

Part 2: Grim Prognosis

Part 3: Miraculous Healing

Part 4: Bonus Effects and Challenges

Part 5: Lessons We Can Learn From This Case


On 8 February 2012, I received the e-mail (below) from a lady in Indonesia.

Dear Prof Dr. Chris K. H. Teo,

I am H from Surabaya, Indonesia. My father, 72 years old, was diagnosed have cancer by two doctors in Indonesia. One doctor said it is prostate cancer that had metastatized to his back bone, based on the PSA test result. It was (more than) >100. The other doctor said it is multiple myeloma. My father feels uncomfortable on his back (not his prostate/urine) so it’s difficult for him to take a long journey. Would you mind if I come to meet you without the patient? Hopefully Prof.  Dr. Chris Teo can help us soon. We are now still in Indonesia. If possible to meet, I shall look for flights today to meet you in Penang. 

Reply: Yes. Bring all the medical reports / scans, etc. No need to bring the patient. Chris.

Two days later, 10 February 2012, H flew to Penang and presented her father’s case. Sometime in January 2012, her father had pains in his backbone. He consulted a neurologist and was told that it could be due to pinched nerve. He was prescribed medication but this did not help him. Subsequently he did an MRI on 30 January 2012.

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MRI report dated 30 January 2012:

  • Multiple malignant bone marrow replacement oleh heterogenous enhanced soft tissue mass pada hampir seluruh cervico-thoraco-lumbrosacral vertebrae, yang melibatkan posterior element and relative disc sparing.
  • Malignant intensity di ala sacrum and iliaca kanan kiri, ischium kiri. DD: proses metastase, multiple myeloma.
  • Level Th9, masa extensi ke posterior (kanan>kiri), dengan destruksi pediket and lamina kanan kiri serta adjacent costae kanan, juga ke neural foramina kanan and paraspinal muscle sisi kanan, sedikit masukj ke intra spinal canal sisi kanan and menyebabkan moderate central canal stenosis di level Th9.

Patient was asked to do a biopsy. He refused. He was asked to undergo chemotherapy. He also refused the treatment.  Patient’s daughter came to a private hospital in Penang for consultation. The doctor suggested orchidectomy, i.e. an operation to remove both testicles. This is actually a medical term for castration and the procedure was going to cost RM 8,000.

Not satisfied, his daughters came to seek our help. Patient was prescribed: Capsule A, Prostate A, deTox, Bone and Pain Teas and Gastric Paste and A-Kid-6 tea.

On 1 March 2012, he was started on Zoladex injection – this cost him IDR 1.5 million (approx. RM 500) each month.

A few months later, patient was started on the e-Therapy.

For a year, we communicated with patient’s daughter via e-mails as below:

22 February 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

We have taken all the medicine you gave to me: Capsule A, Bone tea, Prostate tea, deTox Tea, Pain Tea and we only give him the food that are allowed (vegetables and fruit).

We never do any radiation, chemotherapy or operation.  Since Sunday, my father felt very intense pain. His leg became weak with no strength to walk. And today my father took PSA test again and the result was very high, it was 6962. The result was higher thousand times. What should I do Dr. Chris? Help me please. 

Reply:  You came to see me on 10 February now it is 23 February. Your father has taken herbs for less than two weeks. I don’t expect anything to come out of it.

Since Sunday, my father felt very intense pain. He leg became weak with no strength to walk.

YES. Some patients will suffer healing crisis after taking the herbs for a week or two … Did you take the pain tea? How many times a day? 

My father took PSA test and the result was very high, it was 6,962. PSA test result was higher thousand times.

You don’t understand the test results.  When it is written PSA >100, it does not mean that the PSA was 100. It can mean a million. That symbol > means more than.  Now you went for a second time it was 6,962. Okay, keep that result. In three months we shall see what happens.

What should I do, Dr. Chris?

Taking one or two week of herbs means nothing. The herbs don’t even work yet. You think it is magic bullet? No.  Only after two or three months can I know if the herbs help or not. But if you like you can go and see the doctors and see what they have to say.

23 February 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

Thank you for your kind attention. Yesterday we’re so depressed. Panic! And felt no hope anymore but your explanation really makes me and my family feel so glad. This is because we really don’t want to undergo radiotherapy and chemotherapy. We have high hope that your herbs can heal my father, Dr. Chris. We will be more patient and of course only eat healthy food that is allowed. One more time, thank you very much.

15 March 2012: Dear Prof. Chris,

He has backache and his hip feel uncomfortable. Both his legs can’t move.  But if we touch his legs, he can feel that. In this case, is it correct to say that my father’s legs are paralyzed (lumpuh)? Is it because of the cancer or because he sleeps too much? It has been almost 2.5 months he rarely walks – just only sleeps or sits down, because of his backache. Because his can’t move his legs, he has difficulty sleeping. He can only sleep in one position (sleeping position) for about an hour, after that we need to change him to another position otherwise his leg will be become numb (mati rasa, kemeng). Help me Dr. Chris, because my father feels depressed, he can’t move his legs, he never need anyone to help in life until this three weeks. What should we do?  Thanks you for your attention.

1 April 2012: Dear Prof. Chris,

On 29 March 2012 my father did PSA test and the result was 3,103. On 22 February it was 6,962. He started taking your herb on 13 Febuary 2012, so it is about 1.5 month and the PSA is down. Thank you Dr. Chris.

But I have problems:

My father can’t walk now. The Indonesian doctors said that his spine marrow / backbone marrow (sumsum tulang belakang) has been damaged by cancer cell, so he can’t move his legs. Help me Dr. Chris. Do you have any herb to repair his backbone marrow / sumsum tulang belakang? Or to help restore the control of his legs?

3 May 2012: Dear Prof. Chris,

Again we did the PSA test on 1 May 2012. And the result was 1,084.

On 2 February 2012, my father ‘s PSA = 6,962

On 29 March 2012, PSA = 3,103

He started taking your herb on 13 February 2012, and after 2.5 month the PSA is down a lot. Thank you Dr. Chris. We all feel really happy, calm, and grateful. My father will continue taking your herbs.

In July or August I plan to meet you. I hope you can tell me what to do to help him walk again. Please one more time. Thank you Dr. Chris.

10 July 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

I just want to give you my father’s latest information. Both his both legs can move now! But if he is tired, he can’t move his legs but still can’t stand up. His kidney test result is good and the hemoglobin increased. Praise the LORD. OK. I will be patient. Thanks for your attention.

23 October 2012: Dear Prof. Chris,

On 18 October 2012, his PSA = 163.7

Last month, 13 September 2012, PSA = 238.6
So it’s down 31% from last month.

Dr. Chris, I want to ask you. My father thinks that there is no need to take Zoladex injection anymore because he feels really painful on his stomach when the doctor gives him the injection. Can he only take your herb? What do you think Dr ? It is ok to do that? As I know after two years, Zoladex can become useless. What if we stop it now, although it’s only been 10 months?

Reply 23 October 2012: Hello H.,

Please tell me first about his health condition now. The last time you told me he can move his legs a bit. What happen now? What about other conditions, like sleep, pain, appetite? Has he improved on that? Okay, the problem about Zoladex. If he takes the injection he has pains in the stomach? For how long? Apart from pains any more problem? After all the answer above, let us decide what to do. Chris.

24 October 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

My father’s condition is better and better every day. He feels no pain on his back anymore. He can sit and watch TV on wheel chair for about two hours every morning and night. He sleeps and eats well. He’s still learning to stand up by himself (but still use braces on his back & both legs). Now we still help him to stand up.

About the Zoladex — in fact my father is afraid of injection — afraid of needle (for Zoladex injection, doctor uses big and long needle. Every time we take him for injection he will be in bad mood. The pain is only at the time that needle is injected.So if you think Zoladex can be stopped, .it will be better. Thank you for your attention.

Reply:  Okay. Thank you for your answers. He has improved — not only his PSA goes down but also his health has improved. I understand about his fear of the injection BUT tell him that the Zoladex may also help him. My experience is that this injection and the herbs make the PSA go down faster. So I think it is good to continue taking the injection. Chris.

26 October 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

About the Zoladex, as your advice, we have decided to continue taking it. Thank you.

About your coming to Surabaya in February 2013, and being willing to meet us, we really appreciate it. Thank you very much Dr. Chris. When will you come to Surabaya, when will you meet us, and what time — can you write me?

My father condition now is better and better:

BEFORE:

  1. Every movement he felt pain in his back when going to sleep and wake up. Can’t sit down for more than 20 minutes. 
  2. After a month, the doctor found he has prostate cancer that had metastatized to his back bone. It was difficult to move both his legs. Finally he totally couldn’t move his both legs. That time he had taken the herb for only a month
  3. He found it difficult to sleep because he couldn’t change to other position. Couldn’t move by himself, and felt pain with every movement. 

NOW:

  1. He feels better. No pain in his back anymore.
  2. He sleeps better because can move by himself on the bed (but still can’t stand up by himself).
  3. About his appetite, urination — no problem. 

I will tell you more about his condition (every development we will write to inform you). Hope he can stand up soon. Thank you very much. 

7 November 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

My father condition now is better and better. Every day he goes to my brother’s house. Then he comes back to our house at night. Every week he goes to supermarket or mall with us. Sometimes he goes with us to the restaurant to have dinner (although he doesn’t eat but drinks real coconut!). He is happy to meet every one and happy to go any where  than stays at home. My father still can’t walk. He goes out very day and everywhere, but with wheel chair.

29 November 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

This morning my father took his PSA test and the result was really bad. PSA = 197.9 (last month PSA = 163.7). It increases by 20.89%. Oh my God. All of us were shocked. It was really disappointing. We think my father ate too much peanut – almost every day in last month (steamed/ kacang rebus yang masih ada kulitnya) and also ate fried potato + tempe ( fried with pure coconut oil that we made by ourselves). Some food were made from coconut milk (santan) that we made ourselves too. Do you think all the food above are forbidden? Do you have any suggestion? All the herb are still taken, Zoladex is also given. What should we do?

His condition is the same as before. He goes everywhere (feel no pain in his back) but with wheel chair (we gave him much peanut because peanut contains vitamin B that is good for his legs, it is what we thought). Help me Dr. Chris. My father is down today because of the PSA result. Thank you for your attention. 

Reply: Hello H.,

NO, NO peanuts.  I tell all my patients not to eat peanuts! Yes, take care of the diet. Nothing to worry! If you take care of the diet the PSA will come down! Anyway he is okay — so now you learn well — take care of the diet.

One question: Before this problem, did he eat any peanut like he did now ? Did he eat fried potato + tempe ( fried with pure coconut oil that we made by ourselves) some food were made from coconut milk (santan) that we made ourselves too. Did he eat such things before? Chris.

29 November 2012: Yes he took but not too much. Only last month, almost every day he took steamed peanut.But fried tempe + potato (fried by pure coconut oil that we made ourselves) almost every day he took them (I think since June). So Dr. Chris, how about coconut milk? fried tempe? fried potato? 

Reply:  Okay, but don’t add sugar — green bean, red bean, okay. 

29 November 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

Okay, I will give a big attention to my father’s food. No peanut, just a little santan, try to avoid fried food. About the itchy skin, you are right. My father has keloid on his body. Later (after too much peanut, santan and fried food) he feel itchy more and more on his keloid. Almost every night he felt itchy on his keloid. But that time we don’t know why (we thought it was because it’s hot summer season). So thank you for your attention. 

11 January 2013: Dear Dr. Chris,

Yesterday my father took PSAa test and the result was PSA = 176.8. This is about 10.66% down from November but still higher than October.

18 October 2012: PSA = 163.7

29 November 2012: PSA = 197.9

Yesterday, 10 January 2013: PSA=176.8

He doesn’t eat peanut anymore. His condition is better than before. No more pain in his back. Both legs can feel itchy when a mosquito bites them. Last year, his both legs felt nothing. But until now still can’t stand up. In this rainy season, sometimes his right leg feels cramp. Then I use your e-machine to reduce that. Sometime only massage the leg will make it alright. Besides being unable to stand up, all things are okay. He can sleep well (mostly after having fun, going to many places.) But if he only stays at home for two days….he can’t sleep well at night. He takes a pee (bab) every 2-3 days depend on his activity and the fruit he eats.

8 February 2012: Dear Dr. Chris,

First of all, I want to apologize to you. This morning my father took PSA test and the result is really bad. PSA = 200.6 (last month =176.8). So it’s going up. Sorry. He doesn’t eat peanut anymore. My family thought that he always eats fried potato (it’s fried by pure coconut oil). He used to eat potato fried with olive oil.

Chris and PSA table

Comments 

Almost always cancer patients are told by their doctors to eat thing they like! Dr. Russell Blaylock wrote: Oncologists harm their patients by giving them cancer-promoting nutritional advice.”  Dr. Harvey Kellogg was even more direct when he said: An ordinary pig knows more about diet than the most learned college professor. 

Over the years, we, at CA Care have been telling patients to take care of their diet if they wish to win over their cancer.  Those who do benefited but those who don’t pay for the consequences of their follies.

In this case, the patient was doing fine. His PSA was falling down with each passing month – from 6,962 down to 163.7 over a period of about seven months. Then after taking a lot of peanuts, his PSA rose again from 163.7 to 197.9.

At CA Care we advised patients to avoid cashew nuts and peanuts. They are not good for you! Peanut allergy is the most common cause of deaths from food allergy. http://www.medicinenet.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=15618

Read this story: Threat from peanut allergy very real.

http://www.today.com/id/21471171/site/todayshow/ns/today-today_health/t/threat-peanut-allergy-very-real/#.USGubh2VP6U

This is our clarion call to all cancer patients: Watch out for your diet even if you seem to be recovering well from your cancer!  Being told to eat anything you like is bad /wrong advice!

Cancer patients are often told not to take herbs while on medical treatment. Again Dr. Russell Blaylock has this to say: Oncologists forbid patients to take supplements or herbs while on treatment… This is base on ignorance – not valid scientific facts or studies.

Over the years I have seen that patients who are on our therapy (herbs + diet) fared far better than those who are on medical treatment alone! In this case even the doctor who gave monthly Zoladex injection to the patient was amazed   (or shocked) at the spectacular drop of his PSA.  The doctor asked to see our herbs!

I have learned of this synergistic effect between our herbs and hormonal therapy many years ago. In our book, Prostate Cancer Healed Naturally, I have documented other similar cases.

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  •  A prostate cancer patient in England had his PSA reduced from 107 to 0.5 (yes, zero point five) after three months on our herbs plus hormonal injection. The patient wrote: According to our GP and the consultant urologist that we met with yesterday afternoon this is exceptional and very much against the odds. Our consultant who is 55-years plus stated that during his lifetime in practice he had never before witnessed such an aggressive PSA de-escalation that I experienced. He used words such as fantastic, excellent.
  • Tom is a 58-year old man from New Zealand. He was diagnosed with prostate cancer that has spread to his back bones. His PSA was 140 plus. With the CA Care Therapy and hormonal injection his PSA tumbled down from 140 + to 0.75 within three months.
  • Back in Malaysia, we have a 52-year-old patient who came to us with his PSA at 674.5. He was started on our herbs and Goserelin injection in April 2002. Two months later, 14 June 2002, his PSA tumbled down to 2.6.

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Prostate Cancer: When All Is Well Health Deteriorated – Severe Pains and Walking Difficulty – WHY?

CN (H878) is a 61-year-old male. For the past four or five years he suffered urine blockage.  The doctor prescribed Xatral, a medication to treat the symptoms of enlarged prostate (benign prostatic hyperplasia or BPH). No one bothered to check his PSA. Xatral apparently helped resolve his problem.

In October 2009, he started to have backpain in addition to urine blockage. On 25 March 2011 his PSA was at 991.90. This alarmed his doctor. The doctor told him that CN had prostate cancer.

A biopsy was done on 29 March 2011 but the result indicated no malignancy. A second biopsy was done on 5 April 2011. Again it was negative for malignancy although benign prostatic hyperplasia was indicated.

Due to the severe backpain, MRI was done and showed L4 vertebra was more sclerotic than the other vertebrae. A biopsy was done of the L4 and the result indicated metastatic carcinoma consistent with a primary from the prostate. His PSA then was at 1018.

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2 Bone-MRI

3 PSA-values

 

CN was subsequently treated with Lucrin injection (RM 1,300 per month per injection). He also took the oral drug, Casodex (RM 21 per tablet /day).  The treatment brought down his PSA level from the initial level of 991 to 0.2 within six months. Unfortunately, after six months, the PSA started to rise again from 0.2 to 25.1 in May 2012 (Table below).

CN was asked to undergo chemotherapy. He refused. CN came to seek our help on 11 May 2012.

 

 

Declined Chemotherapy and Radiotherapy

Chris: The doctor asked you to go for chemo and radiotherapy – you want that?

Patient: No, don’t want. No point.

C: Why no point?

Daughter: No meaning!

C: Why no meaning?

Daughter: He is taking these medications that the doctor gave and he already suffered.

C:  Do you have friends or relatives who had gone for chemo or radiotherapy – were they cured?

D: Cannot cure.

P:  I know of two friends. About two months ago one of them, aged 67, had colon cancer. After operation he did chemo for four times. The doctor asked him to go home – six months later, he died. There was another one, 51 years old. He had skin cancer. He received radiation but there was one more tumour which could not be treated. He had chemo – four times, he also died.

C: So two friends went for chemo – they all died. So you don’t want to follow them?

When CN came to see us on 11 May 2012, he presented with the following:

  1. He was unable to sleep – remaining awake till 4 to 5 a.m. each night.
  2. He had backache.
  3. He had no strength and found it difficult to even bend forward.
  4. He had difficulty moving his left arm.
  5. He suffered hot flushes and felt “heaty” in his body.

CA Care Therapy

CN was prescribed Capsule A, deTox tea, Prostate A, Prostate B, Bone and Pain Tea. He was also given Menopause Pill for his hot flushes.  He was told to abide by our recommended diet. After two weeks, he returned and told us that he was happy!  Look at the video – he could walk normally!

Chris:  When you came you said the doctor gave  you the injection and also the oral drug, Casodex. Because of that you said you could not sleep, had hot flushes. I gave you the Menopause Pill. After taking the Menopause Pill – still has problem?

Son: Much less now.

C: And you said you could not sleep at night – you were still awake until 4 a.m. or 5 a.m. Only then you could sleep. What happen now?

Patent: Can sleep. Better, very good.

C: You feel good already – so no need to take herbs!

P: No, no, cannot. I feel very happy.

(Note: Since patient could not speak / understand much English, our conversation was very limited).

He returned home with a month’s supply of herbs but he never came back after that.

Crash!

To our surprise, CN and his son and daughter turned up on 10 August 2012. He was in severe pain and could hardly walk into our centre. His son had to support him to slowly walk into our centre – watch the video to see how he suffered.  In short, his health had deteriorated – WHY?

 

 

Chris: I asked you to come back and see me in July – you did not come. Why?

Son: When taking the herbs, he was okay already.

C: So when you were on the herbs, everything was okay? No pain?

S: Just a bit of pain only.

C: So you were happy. Then now there is this pain – what did you eat wrong? Tell me what did you eat that I say you cannot eat?

Patient: Fish head curry!

C: Okay, very good. (Pointing to the daughter) You took care of him?

S: No, me, me! I brought him to Kuala Lumpur the last two weeks.

C: Before that he was not in Kuala Lumpur? In your hometown, did he eat  anything he liked?

Daughter: A little bit la!  Went out to eat outside.

C:  But still okay?

D: Under control.

C: So the past two weeks he went to KL. And what did he eat?

S: Eat outside lor.

C: Everyday eat outside? Aya, you want to die la. Can die one you know!

S: Every night we went outside to eat – like pan mee.

C: You see I have told you before. One day eat, okay. Two days eat outside, okay. And one week, was he still okay?

S: One week still okay but after that he started to have pains.

C: Where is the pain?

P: From the stomach radiating to the back.

C: Before this bad food, do you ever have this problem?

S: No, no, never have this kind of problem.

C: This is my experience. Patients – when they eat bad food for a day, never die. Two days also never die but after two weeks they begin to see the bad effects. Only two days ago, I asked my wife why you did not come. I was wondering why – either you are already well or you are already dead. Now you are here.

S: (Everyone laughing).  Ya, now want to die already. The past few days he could not walk much and his condition became more serious.

Why did he suffer again? Two reasons:  He stopped taking our herbs for the past one month and on top of that started to eat any food he liked.

e-Therapy Restored Him

 

 

We immediately put CN on the e-Therapy. His condition improved after one session. And after four sessions of the e-therapy (i.e. four days)  CN felt he had recovered and did not feel it was necessary to travel (one and a half hours drive) to Penang to undergo more sessions of the e-therapy. When CN left he gave me a hug!  After that CN mysteriously disappeared (again!). Since then we did not get to see him again!

Comments

Since CN felt well with the herbs – no more pains and he could sleep well – he decide to forget taking the herbs. Since preparing herbs is indeed a chore and he is feeling great, CN decided not take the herbs for a while. So he did not take the herbs for a month. In addition, he went to stay with his youngest son in Kuala Lumpur for two weeks. His son is a bachelor and does not cook at home. Father and son went out for outside food every evening. After two weeks on bad food CN started to have pains. He had to return to his hometown and immediately drove to see us in Penang.  CN was in severe pains. His son had to support him to slowly walk into our centre. The video would be able to convey the agony he suffered. And this was on 10 August 2012. Compare this situation to what he was like some ten weeks ago, 25 May 2012.

To us at CA Care, things like this happen very often. When patients get well, they will not come and see anymore. When they get into trouble they will show up. Some patients do not take their herbs or they go out to eat anything they like once they feel well.  They want to believe they are cured!

For CN’s case, I really empathize with him. What happened is understandable – but NOT excusable because he cannot get away with what he did wrong. CN’s wife died in an accident some twenty two years ago, so CN lives alone in his home. His children are married and they live their separate lives while the youngest who is close to him, works in another town. My guess is that life to CN could be boring and probably meaningless as well. My favourite author, Harold Kushner  – a Jewish Rabbi, in Who Needs God wrote: More than any other human problem, loneliness, the absence of meaningful human connection, drains the joy and the sense of purpose from our lives … in my experience, more die of loneliness. There is perhaps nothing sadder than experiencing intense joy or intense grief and having no one to share it with.  At CA Care we understand this message. We try our best to treat patients like a human being.  As I have often said cancer is not only about a tumour in your breast, lung or liver. It is about you as a person.

Having seen CN in severe pain, we immediately put him on the e-Therapy. His condition improved after one session. And after four sessions, CN felt he had recovered enough and did not feel it necessary to undergo more sessions of the therapy. The sad part of the story is, up to this day we do not know what has happened to him. Since our last hug, we never get to see CN again. We are more than happy to help him or any other patients, in any way we can – that is, if the patient is willing or needs our help!

The following are the side effects of Lucrin and Casodex, as obtained from the internet.

Side effects of Lucrin: Approximately 52 percent of lucrin users report hot flashes and fluid retention under the skin occurs in at least 8 percent of users. More than 5 percent of patients experience dizziness, pain throughout the body, headache, nausea and vomiting. Some patients experience diarrhea, loss of appetite, anxiety, tingling in the extremities, forgetfulness, sour taste and insomnia. Fever and fatigue, breast tenderness and impotence in men are also possible.

Source: Lucrin Side Effects | eHow.com http://www.ehow.com/about_5306460_lucrin-side-effects.html#ixzz24XoOrKCa

Side effects of Casodex:  The very common side effects are: dizziness, hot flushes, feeling sick, abdominal pain, constipation, blood in the urine, abnormal enlargement of the breasts, breast tenderness, chest pain, weakness or loss of strength, fluid retention. the less common side effects are: sleepiness, decreased sex drive, impotence, depression, loss of appetite, weight gain, anaemia, indigestion, wind (flatulence), hair loss (alopecia), excessive hair growth, dry skin, itching (pruritis), rash and liver problems.

Sourcehttp://www.netdoctor.co.uk/cancer/medicines/casodex.html

 

Colon-Liver Cancer You Cannot Find Healing On Your Own Terms

Sometime in April 2012, a 79-old-man came to Penang to seek our help. Let’s refer to him as Peter, a successful professional well known in our Malaysian society.  He had cancer of the transverse colon that had spread extensively to his liver. These are his CT scan images.

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CT-scan-report

Peter refused further medical treatment in spite of the seriousness of his illness. According to him: I would not be able to endure all these treatments. Presented with such a situation, what could I do?

There were two realities we must face in this case.

  • One, there was a tumour in the rectum and this had not been removed. And as the scan showed, it was almost blocking the passage way. I pointed out to Peter, if the tumour grew bigger and block the passage of stools then he would be done. Peter understood the message. But he was told by his doctor that even if he was to go for an operation, his life could be prolonged by another three to four months only. Peter categorically told me he would not want to go through the hassle. Okay, this was my bargain with him. Take the herbs and change your diet and lifestyle and if the stools become smaller and smaller (meaning the passage way is blocked) then he has no choice but to go for surgery.  There is nothing much I can do to help if this happened.
  • Problem number two is obviously more serious. The cancer had spread to his liver. I make it clear to Peter that no one on earth can cure liver cancer (for that matter any cancer!).

From my reading of medical literature, this is what you get:

  1. The median survival time for patients with synchronous liver metastases was 4.5 months.  http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/000296108190057X
  2. In a series of 156 patients operated on for colonic and rectal carcinoma, 38 were shown to have hepatic metastases. Twenty-four of them died within 6 months, 30 within 12 months, and all except one within 18 months. http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/1097-0142(196901)23:1%3C198::AID-CNCR2820230126%3E3.0.CO;2-J/abstract
  3. Bower & Waxman (in Lecture Notes – Oncology, pg. 113) wrote: The median survival of patients who are not treated with curative intent is six to seven months. The median survival of patients in the Far East is much poorer, and the vast majority die within two to three months of diagnosis.

To all those reading this article, let me say this clearly:

  • It would be a great mistake if you come to me hoping to find a cure for your cancer. I cannot offer you any magic bullet because I don’t have any. My experience over the past sixteen years tells me that those who come to CA Care for help are those with late stage cancer or those who have undergone all medical treatments. Let me say again, If you are seeking for a cure, please consider going somewhere else or find someone else who can promise you that!
  • At CA Care we teach you how to cope and in the process heal yourself. In other words, we try to make your life more bearable and in the process many of our patients live much longer and free of problems – provided of course, they follow what we tell them to do.

Let me briefly outline what happened to Peter during the time that he was taking our herbs and following our therapy.

  • We often get his phone calls. One time he asked if he could continue to enjoy his cigar after dinner. He said he had “sacrificed” enough forgoing all his favourite food when he was invited out for dinners. Then he wanted to know if he could still drink his wine since he had a good collection of wine at home. To that I remember saying, No – why don’t you have just give those wine to your friends. He answered, But you know each bottle cost a few thousand ringgit.
  • Surprisingly,  Peter  was doing fine. Once he called me to say that according to his medical doctor-relative it was dangerous not to remove the tumour in his colon. The tumour would grow bigger and bigger and eventually  block the passage way. According to theory or textbook knowledge the tumour will grow if not removed but my experience shows that with herbs and change of diet, this does not necessarily happen! I have seen a similar case before.  I asked, But can you pass your stools? Are the stools getting smaller and smaller? He answered, No. Then I said, In that case the tumour has not grown in size yet. We can still wait – but of course you can go for surgery if you like. So we waited, from April to September. Six months had passed and Peter was alright – no problem of blockage.
  • In early September, Peter came to Penang with a friend, requesting that I also help his friend too. Then Peter decided to buy the e-Therapy machine which had just arrived from the US.
  • On 12 September I was down in Subang Jaya and Peter came to have lunch with us. Peter said: I am happy.  Actually I only need to spend less than a thousand ringgit a month for the herbs and all (note: much less than the cost of a bottle of his favourite wine!)  If I were to go for medical treatment it would have cost me a lot more.  Thus far Peter was doing just fine.
  • But not long after this happy lunch together, I got a phone call from his brother.  I was told that Peter was not doing well. His stomach was bloated and he felt uneasy, had no strength, etc. Problem like this cropped up very often with cancer patients. Without asking further, I related a story of a similar colon-liver case in which the doctor told the patient he had only 6 months to live. This patient was on our therapy for almost 3 years and was well. After that, the day before one Chinese New Year – succumbing to the suggestions of friends and relatives – he decided to “celebrate” the CNY occasion by eating fried chicken. A few hours after his fateful meal, he suffered severe stomach pain and had to be rushed to the hospital. His stomach was bloated and he died soon afterwards.
  • So without hesitation, I asked: What did your brother, ate the past few days?  I was told – pulut and salted fish. Well, was that all? I was not sure and I did ask further. After this my advice to Peter’s brother was:  There is nothing I can do now. We have to take it easy and see if the problem would go away. It is very difficult now.
  • Not long afterwards Peter himself called. In his frail voice told me that he was not going to take our herbs anymore. These  herbs are not helping me anymore. I went for the blood test and the results showed the liver function were all high. I am now tired and have no strength. My friends invited me for dinner but I can’t accept their invitation anymore. I want to return the-Therapy machine and you pay me back half its original price.  Without hesitation, I replied: Yes, Datuk,  no problem! (One week after buying back this machine, one patient from Indonesia decided to buy it at that half-price! I am glad that I can help another patient in need through the generosity of Peter for wanting to sell off his useless machine.)
  • I did not ask Peter what went wrong. He did not offer to explain what went wrong either. So I left it at that.
  • One early morning of November 2012, I received an email from another patient informing me that Peter had passed away. In the evening of the same day, Peter’s brother called to convey the same sad news. This was what his brother told me: Please tell all your patients. Do not eat pulut and pulut kacau (all that sweet stuff laced with brown sugar). After my brother took that food, his stomach became bloated immediately after he went home. Surprising there was no problem about his colon being blocked. My response: Yes Datuk, for the past 16 years I have been shouting from the top of the mountain telling patients to take care of their diet!

Comments

There is no need for me to make further comments on this case. I only hope that some patients do learn from this story.

Let me share with you what I learn about life.

Over the years dealing with cancer patients, I have come to accept that we cannot help everyone. We can only help those who want to help themselves.  So there is no need to be upset if we fail once in a while. This thing happened most of the time. I often tell patients:  If you can eat, can sleep, can move around and have no pain – what else do you want? Learn to be grateful for what you are each day. Unfortunately not all patients have that virtue. Once they feel well, they demand to eat what they like! Unfortunately most patients have to pay a heavy penalty of this violation.

To me, the secret of happiness in life is to cultivate a sense of gratitude. Be grateful for what we are. Be thankful for what we have and what we are blessed with.  This virtue on its own breeds a sense of contentment and satisfaction in life. That is healing. We learn to live with the cancer but at the same time we live in peace with ourselves.

Three Sisters With Cancer: One Died Two Alive and Well – WHY?

On 16 November 2012, I had a chance to sit down for a chat with Henry (not real name).  This is our conversation that day.

 

 

Let me highlight some of things that we talked about that day.

Henry has four sisters in his family. Sister No:1 was diagnosed with lung cancer in June 2010. She was the third member of the family to have cancer. Sister No:3  had breast cancer about ten years ago. She was the first member of the family to have cancer. She underwent a mastectomy, chemotherapy and radiotherapy and died within a year. Then Sister No: 4 had breast cancer in April 2004 – the second  member of the family with cancer.

Dramatically we can put it this way (this is what the number-professionals do, i.e., massage and sweeten the data):

  • 75 percent of the sisters ended up with cancer; and
  • 50 percent had breast cancer.

Let us hope that this is NOT the kind of statistics the world has to contend with in the future.

Sister No: 1 with Lung Cancer – Alive

She was 66 years old.  On 7 June 2010 her CA 19.9 was at 191.0. On 17 June 2010 a trucut biopsy confirmed she had lung cancer.

Chris: It is about two and a half years now, is she okay?

Henry: According to the CT scan, the tumour had grown smaller.

C: All these years, did she ever face any problem?

H: No problem at all.

C: And she did not go for any treatment – chemo or anything else?

H: Nothing, except taking your herbs.

C: Did she take care of her diet?

H: Yes. She took care of her diet and so far no problem.

C: I have not met her before.

H: No, no. All her problems seemed to go away. The cholesterol level went down, high blood pressure down and sugar level down after a few months on the herbs. Everything became normal.

C: Amazing!

H:  She started off with a big tumour in her lung and now it has gone smaller.

Doctor said: Operate and chemo – otherwise you will die within 3 months

H: The doctor said she only has 3 months.

C: What do you mean?

H: The doctor told my sister if you don’t do chemo you will die within 3 months. And I told my sister if you want to live listen to me, don’t listen to the doctor. I told her if you operate, you die within 3 months! The doctor wanted to operate on her and then do chemo. The doctor didn’t want to give us back her medical report. I called the doctor and argued with him. If you don’t want to release the report, I shall make a police report. But I hope we don’t have to go to that extent. We just want the medical report back. The doctor asked me:  What do you want to do? Go to another hospital? I told the doctor, we wanted to go for alternative medicine. He said: What is it? I replied: I have no problem sharing with you on this but I believe you are not interested to hear about this. He even asked me: Are you a doctor?  No, no, I am not.

C: You mean you called the doctor and said all these?

H: Yes. I argued and argued. I told him I wanted to do a police report. Then I would come to see him with the police to get the medical report. That is the worst thing I can do. Ah, then he agreed to give us back the report.

C: I cannot understand this. You paid for his services, for the scan, etc. These are yours.

H: Money, money! He was asking for RM 60,000 plus for the treatment.

C: To do the surgery and the chemo?

H: Yes. I told her doctor: My sister did not have the money, but I have the money. But this is not about money. It is about life. The doctor said: What do you mean? I said: You do chemo you die! You operate you die! The doctor countered: But you are not a doctor! I answered him: Yes, I am not a doctor but I have read and I have experiences to tell me so. Then the doctor said to me:  You don’t do, you only have 3 months. I told the doctor: If you insist, I shall bring her to see you after 3 years!

Lung tumour shrunk – Started CA Care Therapy on 2 July 2010

C: Are you sure that the tumour has shrunk?

H: Yes, yes. After about one and a half years but I don’t know exactly when.

C: Amazing but nobody is going to believe what you have said.

H: I told my sister’s daughter to ask the doctor two questions and get straight answers from him:

  1. Is her current condition under control? I want that answer.
  2. Do we still continue to do what we are currently doing based on this result?

C:  Did you go back to the same doctor (who you argued with earlier)?

H: No, no.

C: Tell me again. When the doctor said she only has 3 months, did you talk to the doctor personally?

H: Yes. He also told my sister’s son: If you don’t operate you only have 3 months. Then they (family members) made a lot of noise. You see, the eldest son (my nephew) is almost the same age as me. The son wanted to follow the doctor’s advice. But my sister knew the experiences of what our two other sisters had gone through. My sister trusted me because I am the most educated in our family. Generally our family members will consult me and ask for advice.

C: Your sister wanted to follow you but her son wanted to follow the doctor? So you all fight?

H: No need to fight. I told my nephew. I am paying for your mother’s medical treatment. If you want to pay for her bills you go ahead! As simple as that! If your mother takes the herbs, I pay for her. If you want to go for medical treatment you pay! You take the full responsibility. Just look at your auntie (our 4th sister) – she is doing so well.

C: Request from CA Care. If you have a chance, please bring her complete medical reports / scans. We would like to make a study of this case.

Sister No: 3 with Breast Cancer – Died after surgery, chemo and radiation

C: The first time. Your sister No: 3 –  you didn’t know (what to do)?

H:  I did not have any experience with cancer before that. But actually I already knew about you but I was not sure – it did not come to my mind. They did not consult me. She went for surgery and chemo without letting me know. I did not know about it.  Only after the (recurrence) and the second round of chemo that they told me about it.

C: Where do they live? From kampung (village)?

H: Yes, kampong.

C: Kampung people are very simple minded and they will follow whatever the doctors say.

H: I also brought her to Kuala Lumpur and talked to the oncologist there. At that time I did not know much about this.

C: Fair enough. You have to pay to learn.

H: Then I started to read. I have already known  you after the TV and newspapers appearances.

Sister No: 4 with Breast Cancer – Still alive and well on CA Care Therapy

His 4th sister had breast cancer and underwent an operation to remove her breast. She was then asked to undergo chemo and radiotherapy, Henry objected to these treatments and brought his sister to see us in May 2004. More of this story in: https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2010/12/09/after-mastectomy-chau-took-herbs-and-changed-her-diet-her-sister-died-after-medical-treatment/ As of this writing, 2012 – more than 8 years now, this sister is still doing fine. She is the second member of the family to have cancer.

C: So when the second one had cancer, you knew exactly what to do?

H: She went for the operation and then the doctor told her to go for chemo. She called me and I told her: If you want to live, you listen to me. Our third sister is an example for you already.

C: Yes, I remember that –both of you were here arguing about chemo! Now this sister is in Johor Baru – is she fine today? I was told she did not work anymore?

H:  She is a volunteer (in a Buddhist organisation). Before she had cancer, she was a manager in a plastic company. She resigned her job after she had breast cancer.  She is doing fine. She is normal and goes for blood test regularly. Nothing wrong with her.

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From Henry’s story, it seems that an encounter with the doctor can be as tragic as being told that you have cancer.  Why the arrogance – why the threat or instilling of fear? That unfortunately is the way patients are “beaten” into submission. And such unfortunate incidents happened not only in Malaysia but everywhere too! Dr. Morton Walker, D.P.M., (in  Cancer’s cause, cancer’s cure)  wrote about his experience with the oncologists at the  Massachusetts General Hospital, Boston, USA.

  • I was astounded at how distorted the physicians’ presentations … The doctors appeared to become almost like used-car salesmen in a pitch for their surgery, radiation therapy and/or chemotherapy.  I know something about medical practices and oncology from my work as a medical researcher and as a former practicing podiatrist. In my opinion, the information the oncologists gave my fiancee was hardly an honest assessment of the relative benefits and risks associated with the recommended treatments … Both radiation and chemotherapy oncologists went about selling their separate treatments to the patient, her sons, and me … The oncologists were steadfast in their declarations. I knew they were lying.

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Often to keep patients in line or quiet, they will say: You doctor or I doctor?  Henry was not intimidated by such remark. In fact I would say the doctor had barked at the wrong tree! No amount of bullying, threat or fear-mongering is going to make Henry toe the doctor’s line. Henry knew better through his own experience. His third sister had breast cancer – undergone surgery, chemo and radiation. Within a year she was dead. Do you really have to die within a year?  Even if you do nothing you don’t die from breast cancer within a year!

When his fourth sister again had breast cancer he would not want her to travel the same road again. His sister did not go for chemo or radiation although she was under pressure for months by the doctor to do so. I knew of this because she was my patient.  So when Henry’s first sister was diagnosed with lung cancer, and the doctor said she only had 3 months to live if she did not go for surgery and chemo, Henry knew the game just too well. No amount of pressure was going to work on him.

You don’t need an MD to understand things. What you need is just to have commonsense. It was commonsense that enabled Henry to tell his sister that if you want to live you listen to me but you want to die then listen to the doctor.

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Henry had learnt his lesson. When his third sister died, he knew why. He began to read books and learned from what others have got to say, besides reflecting on his own experiences.  Unfortunately knowledge does not come easy served on a silver platter. You need to do your part to be learned and be knowledgeable. Read and read and read – that’s the only answer.

Unfortunately not many people like to read.  Why don’t people want to read? To them ignorance is bliss. Why want to know so much? Let the doctors take care, they know best. Reflect again seriously on the three quotations above!

And to those who want an easy way out, good luck!

Die of Cancer But Don’t Die A Bankrupt!

It is bad enough to be diagnosed with a metastatic kidney cancer. The situation gets to be real grim when you are told that for this type of cancer there would be no cure. But how do you take it if on top if this you were told to take a drug that cost 100 million rupiah a month that would NOT cure you? And you were scolded for not wanting to take the medication! What can you do if you were just a 33-year-old man earning 1.5 million rupiah per month?  You have not accumulated enough savings to be able to transfer that life’s saving to the hospital’s account! Do people realize that with that amount of monthly income you still have to feed your wife and young children?  How could this world be so cruel? Perhaps the gods of the cancer world has gone crazy?

Let me share with you his tragic story.

Wanto (not real name) is a 33-year-old man from a town in Central Sumatera, Indonesia. He and his wife came to seek our help on 16 November 2012. Typical of a young man, Wanto was a smoker – burning away a packet of cigarette a day for the past 16 years. He was also a drinker. Two months ago, Wanto had backaches that lasted for about two weeks. Then he had   difficulty breathing. His chest was painful.

Wanto came to a private hospital in Penang. He had to travel for 9 hours by bus to get to Medan. After an overnight stay in Medan he flew to Penang. A chest X-ray and ultrasound of the abdomen were done on 29 September 2012. The results indicated:

  • Lobulated appearance of right hilum inferiorly suspicious of lung nodules.
  • A large solid heterogenous mass occupying the whole left renal bed measuring 142.1 x 11.6 x 121.6 mm.
  • Thrombosed left renal vein seen.

Blood test results were as below:

ESR

78    H

Platelet

499  H

Alanine transaminase

56    H

GGT

104  H

AST

117  H

Uric acid

518  H

Creatinine

98

Wanto was asked to undergo a biopsy. He declined. This procedure would cost about 8 million rupiah (RM 2,544.00). Then he was asked to take an oral drug, Sutent (sunitinib).  Wanto also declined. According to Wanto’s wife a month’s supply of Sutent would cost 100 million rupiah (that is RM 31,807.00) per month.  In addition, Wanto’s wife read about the various side effects of the drug.

Wanto then consulted an herbalist and took his herbs. This cost about 10 million rupiah (RM 3,180.00) per month. Wanto was told to abstain from taking broccoli, cabbage, beans, toxic fish, meat, etc.  (Note:  This is partly opposite of what we tell patients at CA Care). Wanto was told by the herbalist that the herbs can cure his cancer.

Initially he felt better after taking the herbs but after one and a half months he did NOT feel the herbs were helping him anymore.

Wanto came back to Penang again on 14 November 2012. He went to the same private hospital that he went earlier. This time a CT scan was done.

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The results of the CT scan showed extensive well circumscribed nodules in almost all broncho-pulmonary segments of both lungs. The nodules measured approximately 4 to 25 mm in diameter each. Enlarged lymph nodes noted in both right and left perihilar regions and azygo-oesophageal recess. The nodules measured approximately 15 to 25 mm in diameter each.

About two weeks later, 1 October 2012, another CT scan was done. The results showed multiple well defined nodules of different sizes in both lungs and aortopulmonary region. Large mass lesion seen in the left lung with paraaortic lymphadenopathy. Conclusion: Carcinoma left kidney with paraaortic lymphadenopathy, lung metastasis.

Wanto and his wife came to seek our help on 16 November 2012. The following are excerpts of our conversation on that day.

Chris:  Was the doctor angry when you told him that you were taking herbs?

Wife: Yes, he was angry and asked me why I did not follow his advice.

C: But what did he want you to do?

W: He insisted that I take sunitinib (Sutent).

C: What was his reaction when you said you did not want to take sunitinib?

W: He said: “You must take the medication. Otherwise you have zero chance. The cancer will spread all over the body.”

C: Did you tell him that sunitinib cost so much money?

W: Yes I told him that. But he said even though it is expensive I must still buy it!

C: Oh, where are you going to get the money from? Rob a bank? You did not buy the medication but went to an herbalist instead. You told the doctor about this. Then you went back to the doctor again for more scan after a month or so.

W: Yes. The doctor was angry. He said: “You see the scan, there is no improvement.”

C: But was your husband getting worse?

W: According to him (husband), NO.

C: According to your husband, he was better after taking the herbs?

Wife: Yes (while the patient nodded in agreement).

C: What else do you want?

CT scan: Once is enough!

C: What is important for you to know is that there is no need to do CT scan all the time or too often. Once is enough. If the patient feels he is good means he is doing good. What else do you want? I am here trying to teach you commonsense. Go and do CT scan every month (every visit to the hospital) is not good for you!  Do it once is enough!

Take care of your diet

C: The herbalist told you not to take broccoli, cabbage beans, certain fish and meat. Did he tell you not to take sugar?

W: No, can take sugar. He (husband) drinks Milo everyday!

C: Oh no. Here we teach you differently. You need to avoid sugar, oil, table salt, dairy products and meat. Avoid taking anything that walks. That is the way we do here.

Expensive Drug That Does Not Cure

C: You saw the doctor twice – first in October and a month later you went back to him again. You did the scan and the doctor asked you to take sunitinib. Okay, did he tell you that after taking that expensive drug, it is going to cure you?

W: The doctor said sunitinib cannot cure his (husband) cancer.

C: Cannot cure? Then why did he want you to take the medication then?

W: Just to prolong his life. By taking the drug, he can live for another two years.

C: Prolong life by two years – that was what the doctor said?

W: Yes.

C: Okay, extending life for two years but the medication is going to cost you 100 million rupiah per month. If you live for two years, that is going to cost a lot of money. But that drug cannot cure?

W:  Yes, cannot cure. There is no guarantee.

C: In addition to this, there are a lot of side effects. How would you know that after taking the drug for a few months, he may even die?

W: Yes, exactly.

C: So, what is the meaning of all these? You need to understand that correctly. Even you take the drug it is not going to cure you. You have been clearly told about this. Everyone who comes to see me also wants to find a cure – wanting me to cure him/her. But in a serious condition like this there is nothing anybody can do – especially in your case, where the cancer has already spread extensively to the lungs.  I have read many medical books and I have not come across anything that says metastatic kidney cancer can be cured. To ask you to take medication – that is fine. After all somebody wants to sell his medicine and make some profit out of it. But the point is, there is NO cure. And in addition   you have to contend with all the severe side effects.  Then you have to find 100 million rupiah a month. Where are   you going to find that kind of money? In Indonesia, how much does an ordinary person with an ordinary job gets paid?

W: A worker earns about 1.5 million rupiah a month.

C: Oh, only 1.5 million? So you need to have a lot of people earning for him, to make 100 million rupiah.

W: Ya.

C: The solution provided for you is really NOT a solution at all. If you have to spend 100 million for a month and then it cures you,  that is fine.

W: Ya, if it is only for a month that is okay.

C: But that is not so!

Under Pressure and Facing Reality

W: You know doc. After the CT scan the doctor wanted to do a biopsy. My husband refused. But the doctor insisted on   doing the biopsy. It was going to cost 8 million rupiahs.  Actually I wanted to do the biopsy and even take the medication – sunitinib, but my husband just refused to do the biopsy. I was the foolish one.  In fact, before going home, I planned to buy the medication. But he (husband) refused.

C: Your husband refused the medication?  Let me tell you this truthfully. At this point, you need to face reality.

W: I was under pressure. The doctor said the longer we wait the more the cancer is going to spread and spread and spread. He said: Your husband will not have any more hope.

C: But if he takes the medication, would there be any hope?

W: The doctor said with the medication the cancer will keep quiet.

C: Keep quiet for how long? How many months or years? But the doctor said your husband will eventually die anyway.

W: Yes.

C: You take sunitinib and it cost you 100 million per month and the doctor said you can live for two years. If you go back and go to the bank and ask for a loan – can you  ever repay that loan? Can pay back the bank?

W: That’s true.

C: I know. It does not make sense – meaningless – having to pay so much for a drug that does not cure. What is the purpose? On top of that you suffer the side effects. Do you understand this? So yesterday you said you wanted to buy the drug – what was your expectation? You were expecting a cure?

W: Laughed!

C: And the doctor had already told you that there would be no cure. I want you to understand this first before we go further.

Misled & Misinformed – Herbs Can Cure Cancer!

C: Then you went to see an herbalist and you paid for his herbs – 10 million rupiah per month. At least that was cheaper! What did the herbalist tell you? Did he say his herbs were going to cure your husband?

W: Nodding.

C: Can cure? Are you sure that he said can cure? What does it mean by can cure? Do you understand him correctly? Some people say – take herbs today, tomorrow you feel well and he is cured. But the day after tomorrow the patient is dead. That is still cure! You need to understand what cure means. Do you really hear him correctly when he said he can  cure your husband?

W: Yes.

C: You have seen your medical doctor and he told you your husband cannot be cured. Now this herbalist said your husband’s cancer can be cured. Whom do you believe now?

W: I don’t believe the herbalist. That is why I come to see you doc.!

C: You need to think properly. Don’t be stupid. The herbalist said he can cure, the doctor said no cure. Ask – who is telling the truth? Do you want to know the real answer? I want to say this as frankly, honestly and directly to you – there is no medicine in this world that can cure cancer – even more so for the kind of cancer your husband has. Don’t be shocked – but you have already been told by the doctor anyway. In my experience helping cancer patients for the past 16 years, and I have read most of the books on cancer that are found in this world, I must say I have not found any medication that can totally cure cancer. So if you come to me and ask for herbs that can cure your cancer then I must say to you: NO, I don’t have any. So don’t have the wrong expectation when you come here.  You have gone to see this herbalist and you have taken his herbs for about one and half months and he promised you a cure. Why don’t you go and see him again and take more of his herbs? He promised you a cure, but when you come to see me I say I cannot cure you!

There Is No Cure For Cancer

C: To all those who come and see me, I cannot promise you a cure. I tell them this: After you take the herbs, you need to take care of your diet and if you feel better – can sleep, can eat, can more around – don’t ask for more! This is because I don’t   know of anybody in this world who can cure your cancer. But if you want to live longer without much suffering or problem, you need to change your lifestyle, your attitude and your diet. All these must change! By doing these, I hope you can live a bit longer without much suffering.  If we can achieve that, I have done my job. Don’t ask for more.

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C: Who ask you to come here?

W: I have been wanting to come and see you for a long time already but I did not know where to find you. Now, this uncle brought me here.

Comments

Wanto’s wife was told that sunitinib would cost 100 million rupiah per month or about RM 30,000. That is extremely expensive. I think she has been misquoted. The first time I knew about sunitinib some years ago, the cost was only about RM 20,000. I believe it is cheaper now? Nevertheless, by any standard it is still expensive to the ordinary Indonesians who earn about 1.5 million rupiah (RM 450) per month. They still need to burst their bank account to pay for such medication!

Let me be quick to say – this is not about money alone. Ask this question, What can I get in return? Cure? Not at all. Prolong life – probably, but for a few months. The doctor quoted the good side – two years of life prolongation which may be rare.  The norm is just a few months. Is it worth it? To the wealthy, every minute of life is worth all the gold he has but to the poor it may mean accumulating debt for the next few generations to pay!

Let’s face it. Even the Americans and English living in advanced countries of the world find the cost of this drug mind boggling –  the drug is too expensive and it does not cure the disease. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/health/healthnews/6087834/Sutent-for-kidney-cancer-approved-on-NHS-but-other-drugs-turned-down.html )

At http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aER.9zj2HmSk   there is this headline: Miracle Cancer Drug Extends Life With $48,720 Cost 

You may wish to read my earlier article: Dissecting Chemotherapy Part 4: How Much Is Life Worth? Erbitux for Lung Cancer. Let me once again quote what Drs. Tito Fojo and Christine Grady in the USA said:

  • The all too common practice of administrating a new, marginally beneficial drug to a patient with advanced cancer should be strongly discouraged.
  • In cases where there are no further treatment options, emphasis should be first on quality of life and then cost.
  • For therapies with marginal benefits, toxic effects should receive greater scrutiny.
  • We must deal with escalating price of cancer therapy now.
  • The current condition cannot continue … the time to start is now.

In addition, prolonging life comes with another price – severe side effects. The following list of side effects are obtained from the drug company’s own website: http://www.sutent.com/rcc.aspx

Common side effects of SUTENT include:  Skin and hair may get lighter in color, Tiredness, Weakness, Fever, Gastrointestinal symptoms, including diarrhea, nausea, vomiting, mouth sores, upset stomach, abdominal pain, and constipation;  Rash or other skin changes, including drier, thicker, or cracking skin; Blisters or a rash on the palms of hands and soles of  feet;  Taste changes;  Loss of appetite; Pain or swelling in your arms or legs; Cough; Shortness of breath and Bleeding, such as nosebleeds or bleeding from cuts.

SUTENT may cause serious side effects, including:

  1. Serious liver problems, including death.
  2. Heart problems—heart failure and heart muscle problems (cardiomyopathy) that can lead to death.
  3. Abnormal heart rhythm changes— dizzy, faint, or abnormal heartbeats.
  4. High blood pressure.
  5. Bleeding sometimes leading to death – Painful, swollen stomach (abdomen), Bloody urine, Vomiting blood.
  6. Headache or change in mental status.
  7. Black, sticky stools.
  8. Jaw-bone problems (osteonecrosis)—Severe jaw bone problems may happen.
  9. Tumor lysis syndrome (TLS)—TLS is caused by the fast breakdown of cancer cells and may lead to death
  10. Hormone problems, including thyroid and adrenal gland problems.
  11. Tiredness that worsens and does not go away.
  12. Heat intolerance.
  13. Loss of appetite.
  14. Feeling nervous or agitated, tremors.
  15. Nausea or vomiting.
  16. Sweating.
  17. Diarrhea.
  18. Fast heart rate.
  19. Headache.
  20. Weight gain or weight loss.
  21. Hair loss.
  22. Feeling depressed.

 Patient’s Experiences

To know more about the effects of Sutent on patients who take them, go to the links below:

1. Kidney-Lung-Brain Cancer: Sutent = Heart Damage

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/09/19/kidney-lung-brain-cancer-sutent-heart-damage/

2.Kidney Cancer Part 2: Two Oncologists Two Different Opinions – Is Sutent indicated in this case?

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/09/19/kidney-cancer-part-2-two-oncologists-two-different-opinions-%E2%80%93-is-sutent-indicated-in-this-case/

3.      Sutent for Advanced Kidney Cancer

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/09/18/sutent-for-advanced-kidney-cancer/

Role of CA Care

In 1995, I prayed in my heart: O God, with the knowledge You bestowed upon me, show me Lord, Your way! Sometime later CA Care was founded. We adopted St. Francis Assisi’s prayer as our guiding principle:

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When I was confronted with this case, I could not help but remember our reason-to-be. Wanto and his wife came to us in desperate need of help. We at CA Care should do our best to help the best way we know how. So, help us Lord.

My first task was to tell Wanto and his wife the truth but without depriving them of hope. I asked them to face reality – no use burying their heads under the sand. Medically there is no cure for his cancer. Therefore for someone to tell him that herbs can cure his cancer is indeed tragic. It sounds like the herbalist is after his money rather than his cancer. On the other hand to offer a solution whereby the drug cost so much money but does nothing much to cure is useless.  It is bad enough to get cancer but it would be even worse to make a person bankrupt while he is still alive – perhaps leave a pile of debt that may require even his grandchildren to repay. What good is that?

While at CA Care we clearly tell patients our herbs cannot cure their cancer, but we also tell them they need not have to give up. We don’t want to raise unrealistic false hope but we also don’t want to extinguish hope. At CA Care we have numerous cases of terminal cancer – the doctors say: You only have 2 or 3 months to live. With our therapy, many of these patients go on to live for years, not months! We are optimistic about this because we have seen many successes.

It really sadden me to see that in the face of inability-to-do-anything-meaningful patients are pressured into  following medical  advice even if it does not sound  reasonable. Indeed Mrs. Wanto felt the pressure and wanted to do what she was asked to do. Amazingly, Wanto being the patient himself kept a cool head!

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The Virtue of Doing Nothing

It is human nature that once told that we got cancer we go into a frenzy – madly rushing here and there believing that we must get things done quickly. There is no need to behave like that. I always tell patients: Don’t panic. There is no need to rush. You did not get cancer yesterday. The cancer has been in you for years already – only that you don’t know that it is there. So take it easy and calm down.  At CA Care we ask you to relax and reflect to understand what has gone wrong. Then we sit down with you to plot your cancer journey using as much common sense as possible.

Many of you may not like to learn this. For certain cases and under certain situations perhaps doing nothing is more logical and humane. Read this interesting story: The Island Where People Forget to Diehttp://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/28/magazine/the-island-where-people-forget-to-die.html?pagewanted=all&_r=0

Stamatis Moraitis, a 60-plus-year-old man living in the US was diagnosed with lung cancer. Nine doctors confirmed the diagnosis. He was given 9 months to live. This was in 1976. Moraitis declined to seek the aggressive cancer treatment. He and his wife decided to return to Ikaria – his native Greek island to live out the rest of his life. He figured a funeral in the United States would cost thousands, a traditional Ikarian one only $200, leaving more of his retirement savings for his wife, Elpiniki.   Moraitis said: I might as well die happy. With good, clean fresh air, simple but healthy diet, gardening, good company and care-free life Moraitis got well. About 25 years later Moraitis returned to the US hoping to see his  doctors again and to see if the doctors could explain it to me what had actually happened. Moraitis said:  My doctors were all dead.

This is indeed an inspiring story that we can learn from.

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My Last Word

I am glad that I have set up CA Care! Doing nothing is not about you not doing anything to help yourself. When you come to CA Care we teach you to live a “happy life” to take care of yourself – to take care of your diet, change your life style and mental attitude, take herbs and seek blessing from Above. All these, could probably make your remaining time on earth more meaningful. And you can also be sure you would not end up being a bankrupt when you go home!

Part 2: Experience with Iressa & Tarceva While on CA Care Therapy

Lung Cancer: An Outstanding Survivor

This case study consists of four parts:
Part 1: Tragedy struck again and again.
Part 2: Experience with Iressa & Tarceva while on CA Care Therapy.
Part 3: Side effects of medical treatment and attitude of doctors.
Part 4: Can the e-Therapy help him?

After encountering disaster after disaster, Sujo had no choice but to turn to the “cancer doctor” in his hometown for help. Initially he was prescribed Iressa, which he took for 10 days and gave up due to the side effects. He then moved on to Tarceva.

Chris:  You stopped taking all those herbs and supplements after all the problems. What did you do after that?

Daughter: We went to see a “cancer doctor” (in Medan).

Patient: Iressa was not good for me. I bought 10 tablets.

D: The doctor recommended Iressa. We tried it but it was not suitable for him.

C: You took 10 tablets – for only 10 days?

P: After I took Iressa,  I developed itchy blisters on my back.

C: Then you stopped the Iressa and switched to Tarceva – the doctor gave them to you?

D:  He only gave the prescription.

C: Ten tablets and you paid 7 million plus rupiahs?

P: More than 7 million rupiahs.

C: After you switched to Tarceva, were you better off?

Wife:  He had less bad effects.

C: In addition you also took medication for the bone?

P: I took the pill for the bone for about a month.

D: Then the next month, we switched to injection for the bone. The injection was done once a month. So far he had received a total of 7 injections.  After the Tarceva he was able to get up again.

C: How long were you on Tarceva to be able to do that?

P: I bought 3 boxes of Tarceva – that is a supply for 3 months – each box for a month.

D: A box cost 16.5 million rupiahs.

P: The first month, I used up one box – taking one tablet a day. The second month, I only took 15 tablets for the month. The third month, I only took 10 tablets per month.

D: In addition to Tarceva, we still continued to take your herbs.

C: Oh, you still continue to take my herbs while on Tarceva.

D: Yes.

W: The fourth month, he took 10 tablets per month.

C:  You bought 3 boxes – have you finished taking all the tablets?

P: No,  I still have 5 more tablets to go!

C: Who asked you to reduce the dosage like that?

D: We do this by ourselves. I told my father about the possible bad effects.

C: While taking Tarceva like this, you said you still continued taking my hebs?

D & W: Yes, yes.

C: After taking Tarceva,  you were able to get up and also walk? What about the CEA?

P: It decreased.

W: The CEA dropped to 90 plus.

P: The CEA dropped to 97 from the previous 800 plus.

C: While you were doing this – did you encounter any problem?

P: No.

C: While you were taking Tarceva, did you feel you were getting better?

P: Yes.

W (nodding): Better.

D: While he was on Tarceva, he still took care of his diet.

C: When exactly did you feel you get back your life? You could walk, you could climb the stairs – when exactly did this happen?

D: About a month after taking Tarceva.  He was able to walk up the stairs again.

C: Only a month on Tarceva and he was well again?

D: Yes.

C: One month on Tarceva – that was when he was still on full dosage – one tablet per day. The next month you halved the dosage, that is taking only 15 tablets per month. What happened to you – okay?

P: I was okay.

C: When you took 10 tablets per month – what happened?

P: I was also okay. When I was on 5 tablets per month, I was also okay. Now, I am only on 5 tablets per month. I am still okay.

C: I am really amazed. What happen if you don’t take any tablet at all?

D (shaking head): We don’t know.

C: When you were on such low dosage, how did you feel?

P: Nothing – no problem.  My health was as usual – stable.

C: Your condition while on full dosage (30 tablets per month) until 5 tablets per month – you felt the same all the time?

P: Yes, all the same. No difference.

D: While my father was taking Tarceva, he still continued to take Dr. Chris’ herbs as usual.

C: I am really amazed. By right you would have problems with your lungs. But over the past two years plus you have no problems with your lungs! How could this be?

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Again, I say, this is an amazing story of an amazing survivor.  Sujo had met disaster after disaster in trying to find his healing. He and his family did not give up – indeed they showed their determination of steel. They are not the kiasus and kiasi (afraid to loose and afraid to die) type.  Granted, life is learning through experience. We do make mistakes – the kiasus and kiasi want to be in control of everything all the time, wanting to ensure that things would work according to what they want. Unfortunately life does not work that way – particularly so when dealing with cancer. Nothing follows the way you want it to be. Each person takes on the cancer journey on his / her own accord and comes out with an experience unique to his / her own.

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I am indeed humbled from Sujo’s experience and I have learnt some important lessons from him. Let me elaborate.

1. Gurdjieff was perhaps truly right when he said, The wise man is not educated, and the educated man is not wise. Sujo and his wife had probably not gone beyond high school in life yet they are wise in their ways. They have a lot of common sense that is much to be admired. They stretched things to the limit and if it was a mistake retreated! Many people are dumb – they keep on repeating the same mistake and expected different results!

2. They say desperate people do desperate things. Indeed Sujo was desperate after facing disaster after disaster. In the end he turned to a “cancer doctor” for help. That is a wise move.  He tried Iressa and found it did not work well for him. He switched to Tarceva. That is to be expected because that is about all that any cancer doctor could offer. But remember, Sujo did not forget to take our herbs even when he was doing something else. In our conversation, Sujo’s daughter kept reminding me that her father continued to take our herbs and took care of his diet.  He had been on our therapy for the past two years (since October 2010) and still had faith in what we do!  I wonder why they believe in us so much? Perhaps from their own experience, they felt our therapy did help them in some ways.

3. Take note that while taking Tarceva, Sujo was also taking our herbs. This is something most oncologists say, YOU MUST NOT do. Their command, No herbs while on chemotherapy, which according to Dr. Blaylock is based on ignorance and probably on arrogance too!  Fortunately, Sujo lives in Indonesia and I know from patients that some doctors in that country are more “open and tolerant “ to and sometimes even supportive of alternative therapies. In this case, Sujo had shown that taking herbs while on Tarceva is okay! NOTHING went  wrong and nothing to fear! So what is the fuss about? Some skeptics may say, One swallow does not make a summer. Let me tell you – there is also a similar case that happened in a hospital in Jakarta. He was also down with lung cancer and was in the hospital. He took herbs instead of doctor’s chemo. Then he took Iressa and came out very much alive like Sujo. That’s two swallows. And I have many more other swallows flying around!

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4. Over the years, I have come across many cases of patients taking Iressa and Tarceva and they failed miserably. Read these stories:

Metastatic Lung Cancer: Meaningless Fall and Rise of CEA With Iressa and Tarceva
Lung Cancer: After One-and-half Years of Iressa, He Moved to Tarceva
Lung Cancer and the Side Effects of Iressa
Lung Cancer: The Meaningless Decrease and Increase of Tumour Markers After Chemotherapy
Meaningless Decline of CA 15.3 and Tumour Shrinkage Following Treatment With Iressa and Tarceva

When I first started CA Care I encouraged patients to follow what their oncologists want them to do. Go for surgery, chemo or radiotherapy! But with time, my world view of cancer treatment begun to change based on what my patients tell me, what I saw happened and what were written by medical doctors themselves.  I am not a fanatic and I don’t belong to any “Vested Interest” group. I shall call a spade a spade and my world views on cancer are “tuned” based on facts and observations that I have. Thus far, I must admit I am never an enthusiastic supporter of patients taking Iressa or Tarceva.  After all according to the medical literature these drugs do not cure lung cancer at all. Iressa was shown not to do anything much for cancer patients. Tarceva did a bit better – prolonging survival of lung cancer patients by 2.8 months. But the benefit of taking Iressa or Tarceva comes with a heavy toll. You have to endure the toxic side effects. Besides, for the ordinary man, the cost of the drug can make a hole in your pocket or bank account. They are not cheap!

However, over the past one year, I have encountered two case of lung cancer. One man took Iressa while taking herbs at the same time. He did extremely well. And now I see Sujo doing well after taking Tarceva while on our herbs. Must I now change my world view about these two drugs? Yes – of course.  Those of you who want to try your luck with Tarceva or Iressa , I say – Go ahead! But before you do that, please study this case carefully and learn from Sujo’s experience. Also I urge you to read another case which I presented in Chapter 11 Lung-Bone-Brain Cancer: When Doctor and Herbalist Collaborate Miracle Happens, of my book:

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 5. Before I go to my next point, let me ask you to reflect on this quotation:

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Many people are not interested to know why or to ask why – it’s a waste of time! Also asking why threatens the status quo! If you find the answer you have to change your worldview – i.e., if you are man enough! Most people don’t want to change! To most people if I don’t learn “this stuff” in school then it cannot be true. Anything out of the norm is just hogwash or snake oil. But a scientist worth his salt would want to dig deeper to know why. Why did Sujo NOT continue to take the full dose of Tarceva after knowing that the drug was helping him? Anyone would say it’s crazy to stop doing what you are doing when what you are doing is helping you. Why stop?  I asked Sujo – who asked you to reduce the Tarceva dosage? The daughter said they did it themselves without being told by anyone. That was taking a bold step indeed – or even taking a great risk!

I guess at the initial stage Sujo was desperate. He had no choice but to take Iressa and later Tarceva. But I believe he also knew from the very beginning that he was taking poison. So after a month, after the poison has done its job,  Sujo thought there was no reason to continue taking the poison much more! More does NOT mean better. So Sujo reduced the dosage into half, and gradually ended up taking only 5 tablets per month.  His 3-month supply of Tarceva was stretched to a year!

If you think Sujo is dumb or crazy, read what happened to these two patients.

  1. As I am writing this article, there is a 42-year man from Kuala Lumpur who came to see me . He had lung cancer that had spread to the bone – just as bad a situation as Sujo. He took Iressa in November 2011. A month later, CT showed that the tumour and lymph nodes had reduced in size. He continued taking Iressa at full dosage. Three months later, March 2012, a CT scan showed the disease was stable. But in May 2012, CT scan showed disease progression – i.e., more tumours grew elsewhere and the lymph nodes grew bigger. More does not mean good or better!
  2. Kathy is a 44-year-old Indonesian lady. She had a 4.39 x 4.67 x 4.54 cm tumour in her right lung. She took Iressa in December 2010. With Iressa the mass started to shrink until the size could not be measured. She continued taking Iressa at the same dosage for another seven months until August 2011 when her health deteriorated. The mass in the lung that had “apparently” disappeared grew back to twice its original size. Again, more poison did make the cancer would go away at all.

Perhaps Sujo was right! Brilliant idea indeed! I salute him!

No one in his wildest dream would ever do what Sujo did. But Sujo did it and he came out a winner and a survivor. Dare you say he is wrong? To me Sujo’s brilliant stroke of insight is like a spark that could light a fire to great discovery and rethinking for cancer treatment! Or is it? Given the world as it is today, this fire will be promptly extinguished. To the vested interests this suggestion is dumb. If lung cancer patients were to start doing what Sujo did, do you think the doctors, hospitals, pharmacists and drug companies like it?

Lung Cancer: An Outstanding Survivor

Part 1: Tragedy Struck Again and Again

This case study consists of four parts:
Part 1: Tragedy struck again and again.
Part 2: Experience with Iressa & Tarceva while on CA Care Therapy.
Part 3: Side effects of medical treatment and attitude of doctors.
Part 4: Can the e-Therapy help him?

 

The night of Sunday 18 November 2012 was one special night for me! Sujo, his wife and daughter suddenly appeared! I looked at him with amazement. Let me confess – I never ever thought that I would see this patient again. The last time I saw Sujo was in February 2011. Now it is November 2012. That is almost two years! The only thing I can say at this moment is– I am really happy to see him. Thank the Almighty God for this blessing.

I have written a story about Sujo earlier, Lung Cancer: Pain and Sleepless Night after Chinese New Year Dinner

https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2011/02/22/lung-cancer-pain-and-sleepless-night-after-chinese-new-year-dinner/ 

Let me briefly outline his earlier story..

  • Sujo (M858) was 58 years old when he first came to see us. He is from Indonesia. Sometime in August 2010, he complained of breathlessness when climbing the stairs.  A CT scan in October 2010 indicated gross left pleural effusion associated with severe lung collapse. There was lesion at T4 vertebral body associated with erosion. This means the cancer had already spread to his bones.
  • While in a private hospital A in Penang, the doctor tapped out two liters of fluid from his lung. This treatment cost him RM 10,000. His blood test on 21 October 2010 showed CEA = 85.86 and CA19.9 = 78.6. Sujo was asked to undergo chemotherapy. He went to a cancer hospital, signed all the papers and was ready to do what was told. But the night before chemotherapy, he and his family decided not to go ahead with the treatment.
  • A friend in Medan told Sujo  about CA Care. On 22 October 2010, Sujo came to seek our help and was prescribed Capsule A, Lung 1 and 2 teas, Bone Tea and C-tea. After taking these herbs, Suja came back to see us twice and reported that his health had improved. He was able to eat, sleep and walk quite a  distance without any problem. His breathlessness had resolved. His bowels movements were good.
  • After a few months on our herbs, Sujo started to have fevers. He came back to Penang and was admitted to Hospital B. He saw a lung specialist who did a CT scan and told him nothing could be done except to go for chemotherapy.  Not satisfied, Sujo saw another specialist in the same hospital.  Another scan was done. This doctor agreed to operate on Sujo. After the surgery, Sujo was asked to undergo chemotherapy but he promptly refused. The doctor was upset and insisted that Sujo undergo chemotherapy. Again Sujo flatly refused chemotherapy.
  • On the eve of the Chinese New Year (CNY, 2011) Sujo took chicken curry (only the gravy not the chicken). Besides he also ate steam fish with salted beans (tau chiau). Two days later, on the morning of the second day of CNY, he suffered severe pains.  Sujo said: “I am very tolerant to pain. But this pain was so severe that I cried. I have never cried before in my life.” He had to sit upright and the pain lasted from 8 to 9 p.m. until 3 a.m.  Then he would fall asleep for about 2 hours. He had pains every day.  Sujo took the painkiller, Tramadol. But the medication did not relieve his pains. Sujo confirmed that before this dinner, he did not have any pain at all. The pains only came after the misadventure during the CNY’s dinner.
  • Sujo came to see us on 13 February 2011. He presented with severe pains in the back and shoulder blade. He had partially lost his voice. For the past 8 days or so, he was not able to sleep. Seeing Sujo’s condition, we put him on the e-therapy right away. All his pains disappeared after 4 sessions of the e-therapy. Sujo was well after this. He was able to walk around, ride the motorcycle, etc. His life was back to normal again.

Tragedy Struck Again and Again

Listen to our conversation during his visit in November  2012.

 

 

Chris: Wah, you can walk now! For how long have been walking?

Patient: For 3 months now.

C: Wah, you have also put on weight. Actually, you are really fortunate and blessed!

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C: The last time I saw you was when you came after Chinese New Year, 2011 in pain because you ate something “wrong.” You used the e-Therapy machine and the pains went away. You went home and everything was all right. You could ride the motor-bike, etc. Then what happened? You ate something wrong again?

P: I took Seven-Needle Leaf.

C: Who asked you to take that? How long were you taking that?

P: I took it for 5 days. My friend said this would help cancer patient. I took seven leaves, munched them and swallowed them.

C: What happened after 5 dyas?

Daughter: He could not walk after that!

C: Before taking the leaves, were you okay? Can walk?

P: I was okay, no problem.

Wife:  Yes, he was able to walk up the stairs.

C: After 5 days taking the seven-needle, what happened?

P: My legs “went soft” – no strength.

D: He landed in bed – could not walk.

C: Before taking the seven-needle, were you able to walk?

P: Yes, I could walk. I could ride the motor-bike even.

Bone Surgery and Radiotherapy in Penang

D: He had to be hospitalized in Medan. The doctor said the cancer had spread to his bone.

C: Then you came to Penang and had surgery. Before the surgery, did the doctor say he could cure you?

P: He said,  “50:50 chance”.

W: Even after the operation, his legs just collapse when he bent his knees. No strength. He could not stand up all. Actually even before the surgery, he already could not stand up.

C: How much do you have spent for the surgery?

W: About 70 to 80 million rupiahs.

D: He also underwent radiotherapy after the surgery.

W: Radiation for 5 times.

C: After the surgery, any more problems – any pain?

P: No pain, but my legs were numb. Later, my legs started to shake vigorously by themselves.

C: And your legs still shake now?

P: Yes, even to this day.

W: When he turned to the left or right, the legs would just tremble.

C: After the surgery, you still could not stand up?

D: No and the legs became thinner and thinner.

C: At home you just stay in bed and could not walk?

W: He could not walk – always sleeping on the bed. I have to lift him up whenever he wanted to move his bowels.

C: How long were you in such a situation?

P: For more than a year.

C: More than a year? – Wah! immobolised for more than a year. It must be very difficult for you all.

W & P: Yes, very difficult.

C: Were you able to eat? Any pain?

P: Can eat, no pain.

D: Only could not walk and his legs were numb.

W: His legs trembled and trembled.

Acupuncture Did Not Help

C: So for a year plus lying on the bed – what else did you do?

D: Continued to take your herbs and then went for Acupuncture – 2 to 3 times a week.

C: How long were you on Acupuncture treatment?

P: About two months.

C: Did the Acupuncture help you?

P: No.

C: During the whole year in such a condition, did you continue taking our herbs?

W: Yes! He continued taking your herbs.

C: Did you go and see any doctor at all during this time?

P: No, no.

C: Let me ask you – all this while you have problems with your legs, but what about your lungs? Any problem – was your breathing okay?

P: I had no problems with my lungs.

W: No breathlessness, no phlegm – nothing!

Alternative Treatment from a Batak Herbalist

C: Now, lying on the bed unable to move for a year plus – then what made you well again?

D: We went for alternative medicine.

C: Before going for alternative treatment, you were still not able to walk?

D:  Couldn’t walk and he was getting thinner and thinner.

C: What was this alternative medicine?

D: Herbs from a Batak herbalist. He lives in the northern part of Medan.  The herbalist said the blood flow was blocked. So he gave herbs that he formulated himself. This comes in the shape of small round pellets.

W: A day we need to take 9 pellets – 3 each time. Then there was also a liquid for external application.

D: This is also herbs and we need to mix with water and apply to the body and legs.

C:  Are these herbs expensive?

P: No! One packet can last for one year! And it cost 5.8 million rupiahs.

C: Wah, that is cheap! And it is for a year’s supply. But why do need a year’s supply?

P: He told me to take the herbs for a year to get the best results.

C: But you took the herbs for only 5 months – initially what happened?

P: I passed out a lot of wind.

C: Did you get any better?

P: Yes, I could bend my knees and my legs did not collapse anymore.

W: He could also stand up.

C: Before taking the herbs, you were not able to stand up or walk?

P & W: No, no. After taking the herbs my legs were stronger and did not collapse anymore!

W: He could lift up his legs high.

P: I could stand up and started to walk slowly using a walking stick.

C: Okay, before taking the herbs, you could not walk at all?

W: No, no, cannot.

C: You took this Batak herbs for 5 months, did you still continue taking my herbs?

W: Yes, yes.

C: During those 5 months, did you have any problem with your lungs? Did you feel breathless?

P: No, no.

C: That means my herbs and this man’s (Batak) herbs can be taken at the same time. Then, why did you stop taking the Batak herbs after 5 months. Why did you not continue?

P: After a blood test, the CEA shot up to more than 800! When I came to Penang earlier on, the CEA was only 80 plus.

C: With CEA at 800 plus, did you feel anything bad?

P: No, I felt nothing.

D: His stomach felt bloated.

W: The stomach felt a bit harder. Looked like there was wind.

Another Disaster – the Cell Food

D: After the increase in CEA, he started to take supplement – Cell Food. He took one bottle a day.

W: A bottle cost 400,000 rupiahs. He took 3 bottles.

D: He started to have blisters.

W: Then he could not get  up from bed.

P: I have no strength like before again.

C: Before you took that Cell Food, you could wake up? After the Cell Food you “collapse” once again?

P: Yes.

W: He was not able to wake up or turn around – left or right. Very difficult.

C: Did you ask the Cell Food people why?

D:  They said it was the “healing crisis.”

C: Oh, very good answer! Why did you not continue taking it?

P: No, no. I am afraid!

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I have great admiration, respect, and empathy for Sujo, his wife and family members. In their own simple ways, they showed a determination of steel to find healing. Over the period he laid immobolised  in bed in Medan, I did get news about his well being. His wife, brother or sister came to our center and collected herbs for him and kept us informed about his well being.  Then on 18 November – Sujo, his wife and daughter came to Penang. It was a wonderful meeting. I was sorry that I could not offer him much help when he was bed-ridden but I am glad that all ends well.  Now, our attention is to try and help him regain this muscular mobility using the e-Therapy.

I must admit that I did not expect Sujo to make it at all. If we were to study the images of his lungs (below), how could we expect him to live without problem?  But the truth is – he did survive and it is beyond expectation.

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There are a few lessons we can learn from this case.

  1. Many patients wrote me emails asking my opinion about this product and that product – mostly those direct-selling stuff. I am sorry I cannot tell you whether you should take them or not. This is because it is not my job to go around commenting on other people’s products. I only work and research on my herbs and there is enough job on hand for me to do for the next hundred years! So, please don’t write to ask me about my opinion on things like This Factor or That Factor, or This Grass or That Grass.  Sujo tried some supplements and he got burnt.  So if you believe what others say or recommend, then try it and find out for yourself. No need to be a kiasu!
  2. Let me also clarify that I am not against you taking any supplements or going for any other alternative therapies. Go ahead and try them if you like. Then I hope you can share your experience with us by writing in your blog or email.  This is what Sujo did and we should be grateful for that – at least he is honest enough to share his story. From my heart, I wish that ALL that Sujo took or did – like Seven-Needle Leaf, Cell Food, Acupuncture, etc., would have helped him. Unfortunately, in his case, they did not. You may have better luck.
  3. Though the herbs from the Batak herbalist was abandoned, I believe it did help Sujo in some ways.
    Without that herb to start with, Sujo could still be bed-ridden.  It is unfortunate that his CEA was elevated. There must be a reason for that – I love to study why! But in the meantime, I want to say that I have full admiration for this herbalist. He is not a “crude money sucker!”  For a year’s supply, his herbs only cost 5.8 million rupiahs.  There are a lot of “medications” out there in the market that cost a hundred times more than this herb and yet are worthless! A least this Batak herbalist is not after your money. He is honorable!
  4. And for those who think their ways are “more scientific or more proven ” perhaps you may wish to take a pause and ask , How could a few pellets of herbal concoction make a bed-ridden patient get up and walk, even when surgery and radiotherapy could not even help a bit? Let us not underestimate or take for granted the wisdom of the “bomohs and bushmen” – they could do more than what we thought our science and technology can ever solve.

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Part 3: The Last Option: CA Care Therapy After Chemotherapy Had Failed

This case study consists of three parts.

Part 1: The High Cost of Staying Alive In a Private Hospital.

Part 2: Eleven to Nineteen Drugs A Day Could Not Cure Her – Rather Die Than Suffer More. 

MM came with her sister’s medical reports and scans below:

Facing Up to Reality

Having seen the scans and medical reports, the first thing I told MM was for her to be ready to accept the reality of the situation. Based on the medical reports, I do not see any chance to cure her at all. Even the oncologist had told MM that at best further chemotherapy would only prolong her life by a few months.  So facing death is a reality and we have to accept that.  I then posed another question to MM. In this case, do we really want to prolong MS’s (patient’s) life at all cost?

At this juncture I remember what I have read.

Dr. James Gordon, clinical professor of Georgetown University School of Medicine, (in Manifesto For A New Medicine) said, Death … needs to be addressed differently. If we do not fear it quite irrationally or regard it as our own enemy, we would be unlikely to reflexively mobilize extraordinary and extraordinarily dehumanizing and debilitating technological measures to prolong lives of patients who are clearly dying. Instead of acting out of blind instinct to preserve life … at all costs, we ought … to devote our time, energies and resources to spending time with dying people and their families.

Richard Reoch (in Dying Well) wrote, We often make the mistake of trying to keep a dying person alive as long as possible, no matter what the cost. There are many occasions when the kindest thing to do is not to hunt for “better medicine” or a “better doctor” but to be close to and supporting the person who is dying. Let them know that you are glad for all the time, the joy and sorrow you have shared … In the last hours, love and acceptance will do far more good than medicine.

Dr. Bernie Siegel (in Peace, Love & Healing) said: It is important that we realize that we can never cure everything. We will never find … cure for all the diseases. Dying can be a healing, ending a full, rich life for someone who is tired and sore and in need of rest.

Three Options

I offered MM three options and requested her to go back and discuss with her sister or her family members in Indonesia.

  1. Continue with medical treatment in Penang – do whatever the oncologist wanted her to do.
  2. Take her home to Indonesia without anymore treatment.
  3. Stay in the hospital but stop further medication from the hospital. Take herbs, i.e., follow the CA Care therapy.

However, I made it clear to MM that the decision as to what to do next must be hers. She had to take the risks and assume all the consequences, especially if she wanted to take option 3. I made it clear that I cannot be held responsible for whatever happens after taking the herbs. Her sister might just die – I don’t know!

MM decided not to continue with any more chemotherapy. And it is also not possible to bring her sister home right now because of her weak condition – she would not be able to stand the journey home. So Option 3 seemed to be the only way out. Let her sister stay in the hospital but take our herbs. When her condition improves, prepare to take her home quickly. The time frame – give CA Care Therapy a try for one or two weeks.

It was indeed a brave decision for each of us to make! Within the next three weeks (from 15 October to 8 November) we wrote 175 emails to each other. Let me reproduce just a few emails to give you an idea of what eventually happened.

18 October 2012:  Yes doctor we have already been informed that her this first or second week will be very hard for her. Hope she can cope with all the problems that would arise.  Her main issues now:
1. Tummy hardened.
2. Hard to breathe.
3. Area on upper abdominal and gastric pain.
4. Swelling on legs.
5. Some redness –  allergy that I observed maybe  due to the vitamin and milk infusion. It had already been stopped since yesterday. But still the redness  persists but lesser than yesterday.
6. Hard to relax and cannot sleep well.
7. Tense.

19 October 2012: After taking your herbs since yesterday 3 p.m. – started with Pain Tea, I observe that she had already passed motion three times, which is in my view is good. Not watery but soft. She passed out urine many times. Pain became lesser a bit but still hard to breathe. The liquid come out from the pig tail is lesser. Yesterday it came out around 850 ml. This morning it is only 150 ml. I have already discussed with the doctor in hospital that we cut off all infusions given to her previously including albumin, vitamin and the other drips. Any other issues I shall inform you later. Hope she responds well with the herbs. Thank you for your kind attention.

19 October 2012: She can sleep quite well now. She felt and looked very tired. Her first bowel motion started at 12.30 a.m. Back to sleep again and suddenly around 3.30 am she woke up and wanted to vomit. Nothing out only saliva,   nausea. Is the process of taking the herbs like this? As I know that having diarrhea is one of taking the herbs. How about the nausea? So far, I observe her overall condition is ok. She is still very weak, her legs swelling, tummy bloated, tiredness of the back (often asking for massage).  One more thing –  she can turn left and right and without complaining. Before turning her body makes her tummy pain. No complaining of pain now. The redness due to allergy still on her legs, lesser though. She took all your herbs yesterday according to your prescription without any single medicine from the hospital.   

19 October 2012: Since last night she still passed out stools. She cannot sleep well yet. She just told me now that her heart beats so fast since yesterday noon. Her hands and feet are cold. She cannot eat and drink much at this moment, even though she has no nausea anymore. She always feels very full. Does the inability to eat and drink much at this time affect her heart beating faster than usual, the tummy full (not hungry), and at the same time she should take too many herbs in a day? Her tummy looks smaller than before. Her feet are still swollen. The liquid came out was getting lesser to 600 ml yesterday. I took a picture of her while she was lying down. Kindly ask your advice based on her update condition.

Reply: 21 October 2012: The big question that you need to answer is only this: After stopping the doctor’s medication and going on herbs — IS she better or not? I expect life is going to be difficult for the first one or two weeks. Is it worth it? Or do you prefer to go back to the old ways and put in all the 13 to 16 drugs that the doctor gave. You have to decide. I don’t know if her situation is better or not, so I cannot say anything on that. Look at her condition –  before and after the herbs –  which one do you prefer? If you see a glass with water but it is not full with water …you can say it is a glass half full of water or you can say it is a glass half empty … this represents two different basic attitudes and perspectives… I don’t know which she belongs to.  

22 October 2012:  I can assure you that she is much better after stopping the doctor’s medication and going on herbs. Day by day there is improvement. Though she still feels the body heavy, legs swelling, hard to close her eyes to sleep because she feels there is much energy, though walking exercises makes her tired easily. Her passing of stools is lesser day by day. Since yesterday she passed out only 2 times passing stools. Today she has not had one yet. Passing urine is quite ok. Her liquid comes out around 600 ml per day. Her tummy is smaller than before but still swollen. Her pain is lesser day by day. No nausea. Her tummy still makes sound of water flowing. She has stopped all doctor’s medication since the first time taking on your herbs until now, including all infusion of albumin, vitamin and no more asking for morphine Injection. Has she passed through the healing crisis? We plan to go back end of this month or early of November and continue with your herbs. Kindly need your advice. 

22 October 2012: She told me she feels she is getting better and better even though she can hardly move freely. She feels heavy. She just moved her bowels. The doctor just came in and checked on her. He surprised to see her very fresh, and no more complain of pain and nausea. So he cut off the medication for nausea (which I have already done so without his knowledge). 

 23 October 2012:  I notice in this few days, there are some red spots on her arms. What are those red dots?

Since this morning, she started to feel no energy and power, lazy and is slow to respond if we ask something. She does not know what to do. Confuse.  No energy and power to turn her body to left and right. Her face looks tired and sleepy. I think she lose her weight again…only bone and skin.  If I ask her, Are you ok? Her answer is, I don’t know “. She sweat quite a lot.

23 October 2012 at 9:45 PM: Ok. Let see what surprises she will show us in the next few days. Right now, her body frozen, cannot move, do not know what is going on, do not know what to do.

(Note: At this point on receiving this email, I thought the patient’s time is up. There is no more hope. Tonight night, I did not want to check my mail again after reading this. I just wanted to have a good night sleep, expecting to be told the next morning that she is gone. But the next morning it was a great relief to receive this email).

24 October 2012: She has no cold, no fever. Her blood pressure and temperature are ok. Breathing is still ok. She feels her body heavy and stiff, uneasy to move and turn left and turn right compared the day before which she felt a lot energy.

25 October 2012: Her pains is lesser compared to yesterday. She still cannot tell if her stiffness has improved or not compared to yesterday. I tried the e therapy, Detox 2 for her at 10.30 am today. She still has nausea. It comes and goes. Is it also one of the side effects of the 50 mg Durogesic patch? She can eat half bowl of vegetable soup afterwards and rest for a while but after half an hour she feels the nausea again. Most of the time she is stayed lying down. How about the therapy for her tonight? Is it ok for her to eat a bite or two kuih pasar (contained of coconut covered with flour)?

Today is the third day. She still feels lazy, no energy to talk, and weak.  

26 October 2012:  This morning woke up at 5.30 am and I gave her a little bit Naturex to drink, and help her to sit up in   her chair closet to pass urine. After that I try to make her calm and relax by explaining that she is still in healing crisis and hope the condition will get better afterwards today or tomorrow because she is afraid of her condition had weaken and she has no energy this week. One thing that her nausea is getting lesser after the Durogesic patch is reduced to 25 mg. But, she feels a little bit pain on her abdomen. Seems she can bear the pain. If she cannot bear it, I plan to give her only Pain Tea whenever the pain comes.  What do you think of this situation? Do you think the sodium level dropped? Or  anything on your mind? Anyway, let see again later after she wake up. I will keep you informed. 

26 October 2012:  If it is found that she lacks of electrolytes and need infusion, can I still give her the herbs during infusion? Yes, she is still easily tired, lazy and no energy till now, she cannot sit too long and she feels uncomfortable for the whole body. Terrible she said. She still feels hard to swallow. Every time she eats and drinks make her nauseous so that is why she does not drink water. The liquid (from her abdomen) comes out yesterday. It was only 450 ml. Lesser. A lot of blood clots came out. Thanks a lot for your advices all this time, guiding me what to do.

27 October 2012: Around 9 a.m. this morning, I gave her the therapy for Anxiety and before the program finished she was already wanting to sleep. Succeeded to make her sleep even for only half an hour.

Her current condition is:

1. Still weak, lazy, no energy, tired easily.

2. Worried and fear of her condition right now that she feels terrible and getting worse

3. Hard to swallow

4. Uncomfortable body.

5. Legs swollen

6. Red spots still on her arms

7. Tummy still bloated even lesser day by day.

8. No passing stools yet only passing gases.

9. Passing urine only one or two times. The colour is also yellow dark.
Yes, I believe her condition will get better in these few days. 

27 October 2012: Doctor is curious because her stomach is getting smaller, the fluid also did not come out too much. No complain about pain anymore and no nausea after the Durogesic patch was decreased to 25 mg. So, the doctor plans to take the blood test on Monday to check her cancer marker and will do ultrasound to see the tumour inside. Do you think this Monday is the appropriate time to check as her condition is still weak and the red spots are still there along her arms? What do you suggest?

28 October 2012: The results of ultrasound showed not much liquid inside. The size of the tumour is still the same. Some tumours spread to spread out but still in the tummy. Sounds bad? Doctor will give her 1 pack of blood transfusion tomorrow morning, and keep giving her sodium infusion until Friday. On Wednesday, she will take the blood test again to make sure the platelets, sodium, Hb , etc., are ok before we go back. She is still weak with no energy, but she can swallow better than yesterday. She is very moody today and ask to go home already. She continues taking the herbs. 

29 October 2012:   Good morning. Last night when I get back to the hospital, she has just passed motion a lot and smelly after 1 week of constipation. After 4 packs of platelets infusion yesterday night, and 1 bottle of sodium chloride she looks more energized but she still feels weak. Her main issues since last night until now:
1. Her chest pain –  the feeling of something pressing the chest.
2. Her difficulty to swallow. Doctor found out that her throat has a lot of white fungus.

3. Her cocyx pinched so even after we cover it with duoderm, she still feel the pain and uncomfortable. No wound found actually.

30 October 2012: Her condition suddenly changed. She told me at around 5.30 a.m. she passed out stools and urine on the bed. After everything cleaned up, she cannot open her eyes, she is in coma state. It happened for almost one hour and suddenly she woke up by herself and asking to change position for her buttocks.  Doctor is going to take the blood test again to make sure that she has the electrolytes she needs at the moment. While in coma, her oxygen level, glucose, blood pressure and temperature were good.   The doctor explained to me that the cancer may have spread of to the brain. The cancer had attacked the brain so we should be prepared that she will be in this state on and off. Or it may be also because of low sodium. That is why he arranged to take another blood test just now.

He cannot dare to give blood transfusion at this moment as the risky of allergy is high. So, he planned to give her Eprex instead of blood transfusion. Her chest is now bruised because this morning a nurse tried to rub her chest very hard and of course this happen because the platelets are too low.

30 October 2012: Doctor will continue to give platelets, 4 packs today. And sodium chloride. For blood transfusion it is a bit risky because my sister’s antibody is positive. So the doctor said it is a bit risky due to allergy. 

30 October 2012 P.M:  We change our plan to go back tomorrow night to Jakarta. Doctor suggested to go back as soon as possible. Doctor still gives sodium and we are still waiting for platelets donor. No blood transfusion as the risk of allergy is high. The chance is 50%.

Her stomach swelled because I stopped giving her Abdominal Distention tea, only Lower Edema. But this morning I give her Abdominal Distention. After infusion her stomach becomes bigger and the fluid comes out more. She passed out less urine. This morning she passed a lot of stools together with urine. Leg still swelling sometimes looks bigger and sometimes smaller. Doctor suggest to give the blood transfusion in hospital in Jakarta, because if giving now may be  afraid of allergic reaction such as swelling on face, arms and redness. Afraid we cannot go back this Friday.

30 October 2012:  Yes. Thank you doctor.  I will keep the pigtail (tube from her abdomen) to Jakarta, as the internist doctor in Jakarta whom we have already contacted was also suggested that we keep the pigtail. Yes, I have got the tickets back to Jakarta tomorrow night. My brother and sister will come tonight to help me bring her home. She is now having the platelets transfusion, 4 packets. During the day, she has no complaints of pain or anything. She is just calm, alert and silent. I only give her Capsules A, C, and D. After we get back to Jakarta, we will continue giving her the herbal teas. Thanks a lot for all your kind attention, support and good cooperation. I will keep communicating with you and and updating her conditions.

3 November 2012 (in a hospital in Jakarta):  Good morning. Since yesterday night 7 p.m., she had to struggle to drink water. Until this morning, she has not eaten anything. She is still continuing the sodium concentrate 3% (2nd bottle) and amino acids (2nd). She told me last night that she felt getting worse, she couldn’t even open her eyes, her body has no energy, and now it is really hard to swallow. What do you think of it? What we can do? Is there any solution for her esophagus? So we stop the herbs at this moment cause her difficulty to swallow. Need your advice.

4 November 2012:  Dear Dr. Chris, with this email, I would like to inform you that she has already left this world today at 18.30. Since this morning, she is very calm and peaceful. Thank you very much for your kind attention and assistance during this period. Kind regards.

Reply: Thank you for telling me this sad news. Though sad, I also feel that this is the best medicine for her. You have done you best to help her and it seems there is no cure. It is no use to prolong her suffering so much. Though I feel it is sad thing to happen but I also think there is no other choice. Please take care of yourself now. Chris 

8 November 2012: Good morning. This morning my beloved sister will be cremated at 10.00 a.m. May her rest in peace.

Once again, on behalf of my sister, I would like to thank you for all your kind attention and good cooperation. Thank you and regards, 

Reply: Thanks so much MM for writing. Please take care of yourself. You have done your best for her. Chris

 

Would I Take On Such A Case Again?

Perhaps I was sticking out my neck out too far. But I agreed to take on this case because at that point in time, I felt inside me that this unfortunate lady desperately needed my help. And I had to do it. Would I do this again? Probably never again, unless I hear a loud thunder from heaven asking me to do so!

I just wonder what would happen if this story ended up differently, would I be made a scapegoat? Would they say that I kill the patient by giving her herbs and not the doctor’s medication? You can never guess the fallout from this case and what others may accuse me of.  But I remember telling MM this, I may not be able to help your sister because her case is way beyond me, but I may be able to help you – the one who is still living and not sick. Perhaps the experience you go through with CA Care can help you in some ways in the future.

On reflection, did CA Care make a difference in this case? Make your own conclusion! Cast your first stone if you may.

Let me end by quoting Glenn Miller, M.D., (in the Introduction of Ancient Herbs, Modern Medicine):

  • Throughout my career in medicine, I have always had great respect for my patient’s opinions and have advocated using whatever it took to give patients the best results.
  • I come to understand that there is more than one way to effectively treat patients. If Western medicine did not   have the right or best answer, I was free to search for a better answer. When we integrated Chinese and Western medicines, the battle against disease had a much greater chance of being won.
  • The efficacy of Chinese medicine can rival that of Western medicine – and for many chronic illnesses, Chinese medicine is actually more effective and a better choice. The strength of Chinese medicine comes from three thousand years of treating illnesses and promoting health.

Our Herbs Did Not Cure His Mother of Her Terminal Leukemia Within Two Weeks

H-733 was a 65-year-old lady. She came to see us on 6 November 2011. She had leukemia and was treated in the hospital in Sungai Petani, Kedah for eight days. Then she was in a Penang hospital receiving treatment from 3 October 2011 to 4 November 2011.

She received one cycle of chemotherapy consisting of seven injections. She was scheduled for four cycles but refused to undergo further chemotherapy. The only thing I could remember of this case was the patient telling me that her days in the hospital undergoing chemo were a real “hell”.

In this patient’s file are only two pieces of paper – the Disclaimer and Release of Liability form (signed by her son) and a short note about her case. There was no medical report of any kind. Understandable! She went to the government hospitals and if you are not “persuasive enough” or don’t know “your way” enough they don’t give you your medical reports.

Based on the patient’s story, I prescribed herbs for her leukemia.  Listen to my conversation with this lady after she took   our herbs for a week.

In this video conversation it was clear that the patient felt better after taking the herbs for one week.  I have told this patient (and many more  before her) that,  If after you have taken the herbs for two or three weeks and still do not seem to benefit from the herbs – i.e., do not benefit in any way, my advice is: Stop taking the herb. Go and find someone else. Do not waste your precious time.

Take note of what she said after taking our herbs for a week, I am happy now. One month in the hospital (doing chemo) was hell but now I am in heaven. Unfortunately we never get to see this patient again after this. Why did she not come back to see us again? Did she think that she was already cured after being well? Or could it be that someone had told her to stop taking our herbs and go for something else “better”? I can’t understand.  Definitely it is beyond me to comprehend why!

But as far as we are concern, her file was set aside and left forgotten. We know that a majority (70 percent) of patients who came to us were just shopping for a magic bullet. So this case is nothing unusual.

Nearly a year later, I received an email from the patient’s son. Let me reproduce the email exchanges we had. Perhaps we all can learn from this episode. The emails from Mr. Chin (that is what he called himself) are reproduced here as they are, without any editing.

Oct 16, 2012 Hello Dr Chris,

My Name is Mr Chin..I not sure you still remember last year December you have a Accute Myleoid Leukemia

Patient From Sungai Petani, Her name is Miss Ong. She was my Mother, she pass away this year March. The reason I write this letter to you, Just want to Inform you.. your medicine did not work at all for my Mother Case.. and I hope you can keep this Information for your own record. maybe Next time got the Some cancer patient, you can let them know my mother end result. Maybe 2 week also is a vey important time frame to the other Patient.

Thank you Chirs.. Regards, Mr Chin.

Reply: Yes…thank you. Is she the one who was in the hospital and she told me that she went through hell in the hospital? How long did you take the herbs? Only for two weeks? …two months or what? I cannot remember the case. Can you give me the file number? Chris.

Oct 17, 2012

Sorry I don’t have the File number with me anymore, yes My mother does mention she went through hell in hospital. But Chris to be frank, Me as a outsider, my Mother judgement on that time is not right anymore. Penang Hospital do the thing they suppose to do.. So nothing wrong with them. Just that time my mother is in pain and worries, and make such comment, and that time I just want her release her stress, so did not make a correction on that spot… My Mother took your herb for 2 week… Mr Chin.

Reply: You mean she only took herbs for 2 weeks … and you expect the herbs to cure her? I now remember, she came once to see me and never come back again. And you expect taking herbs for two weeks you can get a cure?

 Oct 17, 2012

Mr Chris.. In the first Place you mention to us, let my mother try 2 week, If this medicine is not work, then this medicine is not effective to her. please move on and try another remedy… I guess you are too busy till you did not remember your word.

The reason i make a afford to write a letter to you, just want to share information to you… and hope this info will benefit to another patient. You will do a Job with Love and Caring , and please don’t fall to the trap of hate and criticism..” May God Bless you” have a strange to care to another cancer patient….Thank you. Mr Chin.

Reply:  Yes… you are right. I have her file H 733 — your mother is 65 years old ..Ong WK ..is that correct? She had chemo  once when she came and it was after 7 injections … she suffered the following side effects…a) rashes b) arms and legs swelling  c) fevers on and off and  d) skin peeled off.

She took herbs on 6 Nov 2011. That is the record I have. Yes, very correct …if you take herbs for 2 weeks and don’t benefit, go elsewhere. Yes, you are correct. I am here to help people but I cannot remember all the cases …I have people coming to see me everyday ….. especially if they come to see me only one time, I cannot remember them. How to remember? You are also correct that I need to know and keep my record so that I can learn and tell others. Yes, I am happy to tell others about your mother’s case. I also want to learn from your mother’s case.  So to make my record complete …Can I ask you the following questions so that I can help others understand what is going on:

a) Did your mother go for more chemo in the GH?
b) Or did she go to someone else for help?
c) She died in March 2012 — can you tell me what happened between this time? If she took the herbs for 2 weeks …it means that by December 2011 she has finished taking my herbs …. but you only wrote me this email two days ago — almost one years after this? I wonder why you only write me only now? Why wait for so long? I am not trying to blame you, I am just curious to understand what is going on.

I also want to tell you that I am not angry …. I am just curious to know what happen and how people think. I see all kinds of people and they all write different things. So this is my learning experience. Thank you for writing and if you have the time, please let me have your answers. Regards and God bless you too. Chris

Oct 18, 2012  Mr Chris. Below is the answer you wanted..

a) No my Mother just go for 1st round chemo, and GH already said she are not fit to go for 2nd round of Chemo..

b)  Yes.. we look for the China chinese doctor for help. http://yanqiang.net/ 

c)  Her Body condition is getting weak, and putting palette and blood into her body.. also didn’t work for her anymore.

c)  Chris as i mention to you at the first place, Just share this info so that you can use it for your reference.. I am not here try to Blame anyone…In Fact In this world there is no 100% way can cure cancer. So instead wasting the time condemn people medicine did work and how harmful to people, why not take this precious time study how to solve this cancer problem. But I know this is very Challenging… Thank you! 

Reply: Thank you very much for replying. It is good for you to reply and complete the story of your mother. I would like to write this story.  I have just written a book and the last chapter is called My Patients My Teacher ….. I am sending this copy to you. May be you want to read it.

Over 16 years I have helped thousands and thousands of patients …and there is NO cure for any cancer. Everyone should know that. Everyone who has cancer all die. Even without cancer, we all also die.

If you have time, it is good if you can answer the question I asked you earlier but understand that no one is trying to blame anybody. We understand that.

What I would like to know is this —- your mother only took my herbs for 2 weeks and she died some months later….the question is: Why did you write to tell me about this only NOW … many months after she died or almost one year after coming to see me once? Why not write earlier? I may have helped better.

What about the Chinese doctor — he also cannot help her? How long did she take herbs from the Chinese doctor? Did you also write to the Chinese doctor and tell him that your mother died?

It would be good if you give your answers so that we all can understand the real story. And I also can write a good story about this so that all patients understand what is going on. Thank you again for writing me. Chris.

Oct 18, 2012

Thank you for Sharing Your Book… hope this book will be benefit for the cancer patients and theirs family.

Chris Hope You can understand , with Lose a family member is not a easy thing… and we need time to calm down ourself and get refresh to think what we suppose to do , to help another cancer victim..

If the Chinese Doctor can help, My mother will not be died…My mother take 2 month for this chinese doctor herb… Yup I  do wrote the letter to this chinese doctor, The answer from them is simple. thanks For Sharing, They will keep my mother as their study record. and thanks me for Informing them.

Chris  i Just hope you just can share my mother Case to another AML Cancer Patient, Your Medicine is not work For AML Patient Before and at least let them aware about it. If They Still want to try your method then is their choice….and I also think maybe for some Patient 2 week try period also is a very important time frame for them.. I believe some Patient Family did not report the result to you, and make you can not judge your method is workable for which type of cancer..

Reply: Chin
1. Did your mother go to China for treatment?

2. How long was your mother on this Chinese treatment? … also 2 weeks like mine?

3. Is she on any treatment when she died? Was she on the Chinese treatment or no treatment at all.

When I share this story, I need to have as much information as possible, otherwise I cannot understand and explain why.

Oct 18, 2012

1. Did your mother go to China for treatment? No her Condition is not fit to fly over there, and the Chinese doctor also mention no need her to go over there because of my mother condition.

2. How long was your mother on this Chinese treatment? …also 2 weeks like mine?  2 month

3. Is she on any treatment when she died? Was she on the Chinese treatment or no treatment at all.  No treatment at all when she died..

My mother also gave up for the Chinese Medicine after 2 month taking it… her condition is not improve at all, and at the last when i am on the mid of planning send her to try the DC-CIK treament is was too late. so I hope with Sharing this the next cancer Patient If have choice.. don’t waste the time to try the Medicine which is not work.. then with saving the time they maybe can find a better alternative way to treat this AML cancer.. Chin

Reply: You are right …don’t waste time on medicine that do not work …you tried the chemo …  it did not work, you came to CA Care and took my herbs for 2 weeks and it did not work…then you tried 2 months of herbs from Chinese hospital in Shandong and it did not work … so where do you think you can find medicine that can work?

Do you think that DC-CIK you mentioned can work? If so, how do you know that it will work? … my patient had this treatment in Singapore and then went to Japan for the same treatment and for many months …to do this treatment and he died. It did not work either.

It only means, nobody in this world can cure cancer  …. click this link and see what patients wrote me about their leukemia…. http://adaywithchristeo.wordpress.com/category/leukemia-2/

You can see they all need help…BUT who can cure leukemia????? Have you read anything about leukemia?

When I write your mother’s story, I shall explain that there is no one on earth who can cure leukemia. If and when you think you know where to find cure for cancer, please let me know. I too want to know.

And if you read the chapter of the book that I sent you…. I tell everyone who come to see me … there is no cure for cancer ….I have no magic bullet for cancer….that is why I tell you…take my herbs for 2 weeks and go elsewhere if you don’t think it helps you… simple as that.

It is good that you write me. I shall write some articles to let patients know more about cancer. It is not an easy problem. Chris.

Oct 19, 2012

Chris I know your frustration… Seeing people In front of you who’s seek for help and you can not do anything about it. Maybe Is good too, let me Paint my picture more clearly… as a Patient of the Family who do hope too Reduce the ” NOISE” during company our family member for the last journey… ” NOISE” mean’s the fault hope.. the hope that think this cancer can be fix, the hope thats make us didn’t prepare our family member will be gone.

I think if we were know this cancer can not be cure at all in the first place , then we will do a necessary preparation for it.

so please pardon me if i said it unclear…I believe my mother just a single small dot in your journey to help the cancer patient.. so with my mother result I telling you, maybe you can use it as a data. within of how many Leukemia person who come to seek for your help.. is benefit it form your medicine…and you can come out a percentage chart of a effectiveness of your herb toward Leukemia.

If the answer is only 1% then, you can tell the patient are they welling to try it or not, But If 0% then I guess you can cloose down your herb section for Leukimia.. This Happen Is GH Penang too , Doctor Goh do mention to us, with my mother condition, the 2nd Chemo will have a 15% success rate only. She Ask us to think cafully… so we decide not to go for it.. In my First Letter to you I already wrote in this world still don’t have a 100% effective way to cure the cancer.. we all know that…Chin. 

Reply: Thank you for your reply. After reading and replying to your emails, I think I need to send you the complete book that I wrote free-of-charge: Cancer – Is there another option. Take it, read it and try to understand it. It is definitely too late to save your mother, but perhaps it may be able to help others.  That is if read and understand it.

(Available at http://bookoncancer.com/productDetail.php?P_Id=56)

Let me tell what you need to know that may help you in the future.

1. In the first two pages of the book, I talk about ignorance.

  • Over the past many years, many (thousands!) cancer patients had come to seek our help and advice. They wanted to know what else they could do, generally after modern medicine had failed them. Most of these patients were totally ignorant of what they were up against. Many think that they could easily find a cure for their cancers. They come seeking for that non-existent magic bullet for their cancer. Alas! Many failed to find a cure. At CA Care we don’t talk about cure, because we do not see a cure for any cancer.
  • Many patients come to us – not wanting to see the left or right – they have only one aim, expecting and wanting us to cure their cancer. No, we cannot cure you! Don’t ever expect that after you have taken our herbs the cancer will go away the next day or a few weeks or months later. Such expectation is ridiculous. The situation becomes even more ridiculous when patients who come had already undergone all the medical treatments and failed. Yet when they come to us they expect a miracle – to be cured!  When I think of this – and it happens very often – I am flabbergasted. Simple common sense tells you that it is not possible and unreasonable.
  • In cancer, it is worth noting that ignorance kills. To be able to find healing, patients should realise that they must do something for themselves, not to rely entirely on others to help them.

 2.  You are right – your mother is  just a single small dot in your journey to help the cancer patient. Yes, your mother died but it does not mean that other patients should follow her to the graves as well. Read Chapter 7 of my book:  Chronic Leukemia: Blood Improved While On CA Care’s Herbs. This lady works in the Hospital in Hong Kong and she has been taking my herbs for two years (not two weeks like your mother) and she is doing fine.

After you have read that story, click this link: http://cacare.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=243&Itemid=57

This is the story of Pak Jam’s wife (teacher) who had leukemia and was in worse condition than your mother. But she survived and could go back to resume teaching again. She came to see me beginning of this year (2012). And she was taking herbs for more than 2 years, not two weeks like your mother.

Then you want to know what? She died after she came to Penang (in 2012) – because she went to the hospital in Aceh and they put in the wrong blood for her!

3.  Same medicine, different patients

  • One lesson anybody need to learn is that you may give the same medicine but patients are different. If the medicine fails it is not because the medicine is not good – it may be the patients are not good. Human beings are not the same. They carry different baggages.
  • After helping thousands of patients over the years, I have learned that almost 70 percent of them are here to find a magic bullet or wanting to find cure on their own terms. Our therapy is not easy to follow. You need to heal yourself – and it is you and you alone who can heal you. Others can only help but you decide you own fate.
  •  No two persons taking the same path would end up at exactly the same destination. Cancer is about you as a person. If you are not able to change your mental attitude, your diet, your lifestyle, etc. no one else can help you. You are a goner if you come and tell me: If I cannot eat meat life is not worth living; I have no time to cook the herbs; The herbs taste awful, etc.

4. Accept Reality

One thing we all must do is to accept reality. If the cancer is already serious, there is nothing in this world that can cure it.  Read Chapter 12 of my book:  Mayo Clinic Gave Him Only One More Week to Live. The Doctor Is Not Convinced That Chemo Can Kill the Cancer This Time. Do you know what Mayo Clinic is? This is one of the best hospitals in the world. Kings and rich men all over the world go there for treatment. Yes, after Mayo this young man wrote asking me to help his father. Let us face reality! I understand – he wanted to do the best for his father. Like you wanted to do the best for your mother – and you thought buying herbs from China can cure your mother. 

Read also Chapter 13:  Salivary Gland (Parotid) Cancer: The Doctor Said: It Would Be Useless to Keep Him Alive. Do you know that the wife of this patient is a dental specialist?  She is medically trained. She too could not find a cure. She too wanted to do the best for her husband. But there is a limit to what anybody can do to help.

The same is true for you. Your mother went to the hospital and had chemo. When she came to me she was suffering side effects like rashes, swelling of legs and arm, she had fevers and her skin peeled. It was lucky that she did not die of the chemo. She was on my herbs for two weeks and then went for herbs from a hospital in China for two months. And you expect a cure for her leukemia when even the doctor in GH had told you the second round of chemo will only give you 15% success rate only. And you did not think 15% was good enough. What you don’t understand is success rate — success rate does NOT equal to cure. What is success rate? Nothing – it is not cure.

CA Care is the last one stop – we are people’s door mat

I jokingly tell patients – CA Care is your last one stop. The cases that come to us are usually beyond us to cure. Make no mistake, we are under no illusion. Over the years we always call a spade a spade and we face reality without any pretence. Death is a reality – it can happen to you or me, anytime – irrespective of whether you have cancer or not. Perhaps with cancer, the journey to the grave seems more certain and somewhat shorter!

I said this again and again, we at CA Care can only help you. Your healing is yours to seek and achieve. To those who truly need our help, we say this: Live and don’t give up hope. There is an option. There is hope. But if you want healing on your own terms and refuse to learn and change, then there is nothing much anyone can do to help you.

Okay, with this, I think I have written enough. I thank you again for writing. I would like to end this discussion and let me move on to help others who need my help. I hope you have time to read this book that I send you. Take your time to read and understand. It may help you or others one day. Chris.

Oct 20, 2012  Chris

Really appreciate your thoughtful and meaningful write back..Chris Please don’t miss understanding I am here judging what are you doing….In fact I don’t have a right and qualified to do this at all.I just hope I can provide my mother result as a data, so that maybe you can use it in the future..My mother AML Cancer is just a single case of so many different type of cancer. Me, by hoping provide you this info, you roughly may know your herb is more effective to which type of cancer…Lastly You mention to us just let my mother try 2 week your herb. but that time if you were tell us to try 2 years ( like a Hong kong Ladies) and follow your diet guide…then we will follow you…. That time is not we want to give up, we done that because you tell us 2 week is the limit.

Chris Really Thank you for Your Time ,and I think I took too much time from you.Please move on with GOD faith.. and continued your meaningful journey. ” God Bless You” Chris… Chin. 

Comments:  I have asked myself – why do I have to waste time replying to such emails? Let me tell you why.

  1. I realize that it is not only the sick person who needs help. At times, the caregivers and family members or even friends too need help. If you view it from this perspective, it makes sense.
  2. The message that Mr. Chin wants you to know is this: Coming to see us and taking our herbs for two weeks did not cure her mother of her leukemia.  I fully agree with him. In fact I want to add a bit more to this message.  If you come to us hoping to find an instant magic bullet for your cancer, then I am telling you plain and clear – you have come to the wrong place. Perhaps you have better luck going somewhere else. Go and find someone else who can promise to cure you.
  3. Some weeks ago, one lady came to see me. She had cervical cancer. After surgery, she took Sabah Snake grass every day. A year later, her cancer came back. She came to seek our help. I told her to go for chemo but she refused. She told me she understood the serious risk that she was taking in wanting me to help her with our herbs. She did not come to see me hoping to find a cure! I was impressed by her attitude and plan to write a full story of this case. Then there is another case of a man from Jakarta, Indonesia. He had pancreatic cancer. I told him I am not able to cure his cancer.  He told me he understood that very well and he wanted me to help him as best as I can. He knew that nobody can cure his cancer. I plan to write his story too.
  4. Do you see that Mr. Chin’s case came at an “appropriate” time indeed? Mr. Chin’s case adds another perspective to my two other stories. Here, Mr. Chin came to CA Care expecting to find a cure. And my herbs cannot cure his mother’s leukemia within two weeks.

Let me end this article by quoting my favourite author, Harold Kushner, a Jewish rabbi. This what he said, When all you’ve ever wanted isn’t enough. This is what he wrote,… the irony of the phase “the best and the brightest”… The best and the brightest was the way we described the government officials who got us into Vietnam to begin with then kept getting in deeper and deeper. They were undeniably brilliant men, honor graduates of the finest universities, armed with mountains of information from the most sophisticated computers, and still they kept making the wrong decision. They had intelligence. They had information. But they lacked wisdom… smart enough to lead, but not wise enough to know where they should be going.

It there is one lesson which I think you can learn regarding this case. Use your common sense (or be wise!) when gathering information – especially from the internet. They are a lot of “junk” information in the cyberspace. We can find all kinds of claims – this and that stuff can cure cancer. Evaluate these claims critically. Mr. Chin’s mother underwent chemo for about a month. This did not work. After one cycle she gave it up. She came to CA Care and took our herbs for two week and decided that our herbs did not cure her. The son “hunted” for more herbs – this time from China and his mother took them for two months. It did not cure her either.  Mr.  Chin was in the midst of wanting to “send her to try the DC-CIK treatment” – also in China. But it was too late – his mother died! How long can you go on trying – hopping from one treatment to another? Leukemia does not wait for anyone. You don’t have the luxury of experimenting anymore when you have cancer.  What many of us fail to realize is that healing starts from our own self first!  The real good doctor who can heal us resides within us.

Let me quote Kushner again, indeed many of us believe are smart but only … smart enough to lead, but not wise enough to know where they should be going. 

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Thanks for writing! For the time ever, I received some responses after posting this article: Our Herbs Did Not Cure His Mother of Her Terminal Leukemia Within Two Weeks

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Dear Dr. Chris,

Thank you for the sharing H733 story. In one if your book: “We also learned that for those who want to believe, there is no need for too much explanation or proof. But for those who do not wish to believe, no matter what evidence is provided, it is never enough. There is always something not right about it and there is always a reason to reject it.”

It was such a long time I didn’t visit you in Penang. But I never stop taking your herbs since Dec-2009 till now. BTW my recording is H237. God is good, He sent me to your place, I always remember “Our hands but God heals”. I just want to let you know I am very good now. I have been sharing my testimonial to those cancer patient but it is not easy to let people to believe especially Chinese medicine (Herbs). As usual they ask me how many cycle of herbs I need to take, my answer to them is that when is the last day God calls me home.

I have stopped my work and become a house maker for one year already. Life is great and I look healthy and young after taking your herbs for the past 3 years. I believe God will make a way for me. I want to Thank you again. Send my regards to Beng Im. God Bless you and your family. Jessie

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Hi Chris,

Simple mind uses simple interpretation. Simple minded read your sentence and put a fool-stop. Well, I think about 30 to 40% of people think this way.

I observe that many church members sway in the direction by one speaker and then in another by another. This leads to a temporal understanding of Bible. Reality of the world today. With kind regards, Siew

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Dear Dr Chris,

Thank you very much for sending me articles and updates regarding the good work  CA Care is doing.

I only have one of your books entitled Understanding Cancer War and Cure. i have read it many times over and i am grateful that you have devoted your time and life to help people ‘manage’ their cancer. i hope to purchase more of your books soon.

We all know you have emphasised time and again that you have no magic bullet to cure cancer but you are here to offer another option; the herb and holistic approach to life. To me, only God can heal and people like you, Dr Chris, are willing instruments for God and i thank God for that. In fact, i understand very well the frustrations you face when patients and loved ones expect miraculous healing (which can only come from our God Almighty). i remember now the video where you said, ‘if you can eat and sleep, what more do you want?’

i would like to encourage you to keep up your good work because many people are helped by you. To God be the glory! Blessings, Grace

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Hi  there! Your reply to that Mr. Chin was awesome. Take care! GG

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Hi Chris,

Thank you for sharing this. I admire your patience with this Mr. Chin. The way I interpret his reason for emailing you after such a long time after the death of his mother would have to be he is still grieving and has not fully come to terms with the loss of his mother just yet. It is unfortunate there’s no grief counselors or support groups available for him to help him stop raving on like a ‘lunatic’.

On a brighter side, Chris, I had my yearly follow up with my oncologist last week and told her I had stopped taking Tamoxifen since March due to the side effects and guess what ? She agreed that I don’t really have much benefits at all taking Tamoxifen because my excised DCIS tumour was only 7mm so it is ok to stop it. This blew me away! I thought to myself then why did she prescribe Tamoxifen in the first place? Anyway, I didn’t want to waste my time disputing the issue. I just thank GOD for guiding me to seek you.

Thank you and God Bless, LC

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Hi Chris and Im,

I have recently read the article you wrote re. the lady with leaukemia who tried your herbs for 2 weeks followed by 2 months of chinese herbs. All of this after receiving heavy doses of chemo prior to seeing you.

When I was diagnosed with stomach cancer over 20 yrs ago I was advised to try a new treatment called Chemo.  20yrs ago very few people contracted cancer and even the specialist whom I saw had difficulty explaining what Cancer is.   After I read many books on the subject I formed a basis of why I contracted this disease. I was very impressed with Dr Binzel’s work, Dr Hans Nepier and the Oasis of hope clinic in Mexico. I devoured these books in a few short weeks as I was told that i must act instantly if i wanted to live.  What i learned was that it is imperitive to take time and understand what was happening to my body and why.   I called dr Hans Nepier in germany and asked if I should come to his clinic. He asked me what treatment i have had and when I replied none, he asked what do i intend to do. I told him I was taking herbs and changed my diet and also letting go of much sadness in my life.  He seemed very impressed as he said I was on the right track and to continue with the herbs and my changed attitude to good food and letting go of emotional baggage.   He said to have more tests in 6 months and if all is well continue what I was doing for the rest of my liife.

The specialist was amazed to find no cancer and even feebly said that perhaps I did not have cancer in the first place. Boy, was i angry at this response as If I had done what he instructed I may not be alive today.

Very few then, if any survived according to the Australian statistics.  Chemo was not seen as a cure back then and many good doctors would advise their patients to have the surgery, if necessary, then follow a clean and healthy eating plan. I know a few people whom were given this advice and are still alive today.  No side effects and in fact feel the best they have ever felt.

When I contracted Uterine cancer stage 3, 4 yrs ago, I knew why and I was one of the lucky ones as I knew what I needed to do to heal my body.  You are spot on Chris when you say we are our own best doctors and with knowledge, understanding and assistance from caring people as you we can and do heal our bodies as I have long believed that the body can cure anything but first we need to know how. Mother nature is very powerful and I believe that god put on this earth everything to heal man’s ill.  You in your wisdom and training in the use of herbs and your unstoppable desire to help your fellow man should be the first port of call when told one has cancer.   I, like you see so many when they have exhausted all medical help and told “There is nothing more we can do”. I have seen so many times what this can do to the soul, when you put your trust in an establishment whom should be seeking the best treatment, whether orthodox or natural therapies. Sadly the medical system will not allow their doctors, oncologists etc., to administer any natural therapy as in their words “Where is the science behind such treatment”.   I say to them , “Show me the INDEPENDENT research undertaken to prove Chemo and radiation cures cancer. They cannot as all research undertaken is Kill the cancer.

In the turn of the 1900 century Professor John Beard from Edinburgh University found that cancer cells were trophoblast cells, which now have no pancreatic enzyme termination agents to curtail them.   When the people realise that instead of trying to kill the cancer it is best to heal the body and the best way to heal is to develop an action plan which I promote as E.K.A. Education, Knowledge, Action.   How can one fight an unknown if we do not know what we are dealing with.  Learn from the people who have had great successes, gain the know how of feeding the body good clean food, no animal, dairy, sugar etc. Raw is best and I love the new me and the energy and health I now have.

I was meant to find you Chris as I was guided to finding and reading your books.  I devoured 3 books in one evening as it made complete sense to me what you had written.   Modern societies, especially the west, is in the grip of an epidemic as cancer affects 1in2 of us.   I call it the rich men’s illness as the poor countries do not have anywhere near our shocking numbers.   Herbs have been used long before the introduction of modern medicine. They are the base of most drugs today, but sadly man made concoctions are added with terrible side effects. All in the name of medicine.   I have read many books and spoken to hundreds of medical, herbalists and scientists whom seek the truth above all else and honour the Hippocratical Oath “DO NO HARM’

They, as you have Chris, assisted many in their quest to optimal good health. I am so glad I found you and I am living proof that if one opens their mind and not give in to the fear tactics thrown at them , can and do go on to lead a long and happy life.   My surgeon is in awe that I am so well as I was told that without treatment, Chemo, I would not live any longer than perhaps 3 months.  I believe in knowing all there is to know about ones illness so as we can make an informed choice based on this information.

Most people are only too happy to give their permission to someone else to cure them, they take no active roll in their healing.  The brewing and taking of herbs, organic foods, clean water, being in control of your own happiness, deal with past traumas are all essential.  the cancer is a symptom of the disease. Rid the body of the cause and the symptom disappears. It worked for me and many whom I have assisted. They are alive and well today.

You and Im have dedicated your life to assisting others in their time of need and for that you are blessed with the knowledge that you have reached out to your fellow man and this is rare in our societies today.   Thank you both from the bottom of my heart for giving me your knowledge and wisdom of how I can heal my body of cancer.   Take heart that your time on earth was spent wisely and for the betterment of its people.

May you both live long and healthy, happy lives surrounded by those whom you love and marvel as I do at this wonderful world we live in.    I am sure I speak for many of your patients in saying, God Bless You Both and thank you for your guiding hands, caring for the many whom seek your help.

One day, Orthodox medicine will see the benefits of natural medicine and this will be the basis of treatment as the people will demand it.

Love to you both and keep up the good work, the world needs more Chris Teo’s.   xxx

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On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:22

H-733 was a 65-year-old lady. Our Herbs Did Not Cure His Mother of Her Terminal Leukemia Within Two Weeks

Dear Chris,

I wrote after seeing the above posting. My wife SJ.57 also passed away on the 24 October 2012 at 8.15am, with cancer started from her colon, ovarian, liver and lungs.

After her ops on her colon and ovarian on 22 May, 12, she declined chemo and we supported her wishes and my daughter took her to see your Subang branch and took the prepare boiled herbs for 2 months, then we went back to Sabah to attend her father’s 10 years death anniversary for 7 days. I asked her to bring all the herbs back but she said she can take the capsule type as not convenient to cook in others’ home. Told her we get a gas tank to compensate. She said too troublesome.

While there her feet swell and subside. On return my daughter saw her swelling feet and told her to go to Sunway Medical Centre but she declined. Saying there is no cure. I told them we go to Penang to see you but she declined as she said even Dato Punch Gunalan with a Doctor son also died. My daughter had to respect her wishes. She told me no cure for mum. Two weeks later her stomach bloated.

I told her that she might as well take holy water from her church if she declined chemo and Dr. Chris herbs. Then I gave Sabah Snake Grass for 2 weeks and nothing happens but her stomach kept growing every week at the rate like a pregnant woman baby growing per month. She blamed me and the Sabah Snake Grass but told her I only administrate it after her bloating stomach.

My daughter said no cure, her liver motas and discharged liquid. Her eyes showed jaundice.  We requested the Govt. Hospital to tap the liquid. The Dr. said the motas had attacked her liver and ultrasound showed no liquid. We knew it’s a matter of time before her body system will shut down completely, yet I bullied her to fight on, until she chased me away. Saying I’m killing her faster.

Finally she agreed to go to Sunway Med. for tapping, the Dr. said there is no hope and he would not give chemo to his relatives AT THIS STAGE , but do pain management. Warded to monitor for tapping and this cost about RM10K a week to stay there. Her body was shutting down, she lost about 3 kilos fast every week. Eating 4-5 spoonful mee sauh every 3 hours. Tapping done twice. She died 5 days after the 2nd. Tap.

We thank GOD and Drs. She died peacefully with very little pain and we know we have done the best for her but we lost the battle.

I wrote to let Mr. Chin, the son of the above mentioned lady that I lost my wife, I blamed nobody but fate.
Let their souls RIP. Amen.

Ng Thian Yew

Reply: Thank you for writing. Do you mind if I share this email with others. I shall cut off your name if you want me to do so, but it is good if the name remains but with no phone number, otherwise people think I am cooking up this email. Thanks. Chris.

Dear Dr. Chris,

Please do with my name too for I wish to tell the truth. You did what you can to help others. My wife made the mistake to stop taking your herbs which help during the 2 months but she wanted a cure fast which is not possible as it was too late.

We wish to thank you, please continue to help us, as Dr. Amir wrote in the STAR saying
chemo may not be the solution (barking at the wrong tree) and the specialists should heed his warnings.

It is painful to lose a dear one and it is frustrating when no cure is found, but others were cured.

Thank you Dr. I admire what you do to fight cancer. May the GOD guide your hands.

Best regards,
Ng Thian Yew

31 October 2012

Mom With Lung Cancer: Surprise! Surprise! Four Years on Herbs and Still Doing Well!

SC (H222) was 68 years old when her problem started. She is a non-smoker. She started to have coughs for the past six months. There were no other symptoms apart from pains at the right shoulder blade.  A CT scan on 4 September 2008 showed a  3.0 x 4.75 x 3.0 cm opacity in right middle lobe of her lungs, suggestive of a neoplastic mass. Bronchial brushings showed moderately large neoplastic cells. Her blood test was normal, apart from a mildly elevated CEA (8.0).

CT scan on 4 September 2008.

SC underwent a CT scan of her brain and abdomen and these were normal. Her bone scan was negative for metastasis.

Her doctor suggested surgery since this was regarded as an early stage lung cancer, Stage 1B. Surgery was done on 29 September 2008 but it was aborted – an open and close case. The cancer had spread to the back of the chest wall and was now considered a Stage 4 lung cancer. The doctor suggested chemotherapy and said that without this treatment she would only have six months to live. SC declined chemotherapy. Her sister died one year after undergoing surgery, chemotherapy and radiotherapy for her breast cancer.

SC came to seek our help on 18 October 2008 and was started on Capsule A, Lung 1 and Lung 2 teas. SC has been taking our herbs ever since – four years now.

We received this email from her daughter on 9 August 2012.

Hi Prof Chris, Im

Last week, my brother and I took Mom to see Prof X, the doctor who referred Mom for surgery back in September 2008.   We last saw him in October 2008 when we went back to him after Mom has recovered from the open-close surgery.   At that time, he recommended chemo which we did not go for.

I still remember the conversation that we had with Prof X back in October 2008 when I asked him what will happen if we decided not to go for chemo.  He mentioned then that at stage 4, a patient will generally have 6 months to live or at the most 2 years. When I asked him what will happen if we decided to go for chemo. He was unable to give a reasonable answer. And we never went back since then.

As Mom was complaining that the pain was still there even after we tried the ‘Soothanol’, we decided to take her to see Prof X hoping that he can prescribe something to ease her pain.

The following was what transpired:

When we went inside his office, Prof X was flipping back and forth what seems to be Mom’s file.  I was surprised that they still managed to find Mom’s file after 4 years.
He looked up from his file and read out Mom’s name.

Prof X:  Chan Saw Chun  …. (scanning our faces)

Kim:  Yes… this is my mother (I gestured to my Mom)

Prof X gave Mom a look, gestured her to sit down and then went back to the file, which understandably does not contain any information post 2008.

Prof X:  You were last here in October 2008 … (he was trying to recall).

Kim:  Yes

Prof X:  What happened since then?  Did you go to another hospital?

Kim:  No

Prof X:  What happened?  (We could see that he was scanning Mom with a look of bewilderment)

Kim:  You recommended chemo but we decided not to do the chemo.  So, we did not come back.

Prof X:  Are you seeing any doctor? (He was still having this bewildered look on his face)

Kim:  No.

Prof X:  You look good Auntie (speaking to Mom).  Prof X repeated: You did not see any doctor?
Kim:  No, the only “doctor” that we saw was Prof Chris.  My mother is taking his herbs.

Prof X quickly scribbled your name on Mom’s file.

Prof X:  Is this the guy who wrote the book on the rodent tuber?

Kim:  Yes, I believe Prof Chris wrote on the subject.  You can find more information about Prof Chris on his website.  (I volunteered)

Prof X:  She is looking good.  (Prof X gave Mom a smile).  Why are you all here today?

We told him about Mom’s pain which has been there from Day 1 but currently more intense.

He then gave Mom a physical check behind the screen. When he was done…

Prof X:  She looks good.

Prof X then recommended that we do an X-ray of the chest to find out what is causing the pain which we complained.  I happened to bring along the old x-ray.  Prof X compared the 2 x-rays but there was not much that we can see from the new film except that the new one shows that the same patch is slightly bigger.

He recommended that we come back next week to do a CT scan.  I asked him what will happen next.  He said: Depends on the results, radiotherapy may be recommended.

He then asked whether we are taking any pain killers.  I said, No but we have tried before some over-the-counter pain killers which did not help.   He scribbled some prescriptions for us to buy from the hospital’s pharmacy and it turned out to be Arcoxia which Mom had tried before.

I was hoping that Prof X could prescribe some pain management pills or programme but I guess that would not be forthcoming until another round of thorough check is done.

We are of two minds about going back next week for the CT scan.  On one hand we thought perhaps it would be good to know Mom’s current status so that we can get relevant herbs from you if the cancer has spread to other parts?  But at the same time, I don’t want Mom to worry too much or having to go through the whole process again –  up and down the hospital for checks over & over again.   Shall we go for the CT scan?  Are all those rays going to do Mom any good especially in her condition?  We have heard that CT scan can cause damage to cells.

However, it has given us tremendous pleasure to see Prof X’s reaction when he saw Mom still in such good shape after 4 years without chemo and just taking your herbs.   His bewilderment seems to give Mom a lot of motivation too.

We have stopped using the Soothanol for the past few days as Mom was complaining about skin irritation.  I am currently applying tea tree oil on her – which provides her with some comfort but the pain is still there.

We received another email from Kim the following day.

Hi Prof Chris, Im

Guess what!  I have just received a private call from a nurse.  We have never spoken to each other before.  The last we saw her was 4 years ago.  She “heard about our visit to” Prof X last week.  And after seeing Mom’s condition after 4 years, she wants to know more about your herbs.  She has a friend with cancer and would like to recommend her friend to try. I have given the website (www.cacare.com, www.cacare.org )and told her about Mr. Yeong and Khad for her to find out more.

She confided that it is very sad to see patients “going off” one by one. She’s hoping that her friend can try the herbs. This is incredible! Seeing is believing! Keep up the good work!  Best regards, Kim.

Update: 15 August 2012: Hi Prof, Im, Irene,

We went for the CT scan yesterday. We reached the hospital at 3 pm. Did the scan at 3.30 pm but only managed to see Prof X at 7.30 pm. Left the hospital at 8.30 pm. We ended up spending nearly 5 hours at the hospital.

CT scan 14 August 2012

Anyway, we are VERY HAPPY with the results. Mom was expecting the worst as she thought the cancer has spread to other areas hence the persistent and intense pain. But as it turns out, the cancer has not spread – still confined to the right lung only. The left lung is all clear.

When Prof X told us the results, Mom asked again in disbelief. “No spreading?”   She was very happy. Prof X explained that the shape of the right lung has changed. The tumour has grown bigger and the pleura has thickened. There was some fluid but he said not to worry as its minimal. Prof X explained that due to the enlarged tumour and thickening of pleura, Mom will experience some chest congestion (which I think explains her shortness of breath?).

When we asked what is causing Mom’s pain then? Prof X explained that it’s from the enlarged tumour “pressing” the lining or thickening of the lining? (Hope I got this right.).

Prof X later asked us whether Mom wants to try chemo. My brother and I replied that Mom didn’t want it. He then asked Mom the same question directly. Mom replied, No.

Prof X then suggested that he will trace the samples that the surgeon took during the open-close surgery for lab testing to see whether Mom can take oral medication. We asked whether it is similar to chemo. His reply was, but it does not have the side effects of chemo as the drug attacks the tumour directly. He did not tell us the name of the medication but I suspect he is talking about Iressa.

As I was writing this, a nurse called me. I took the opportunity to ask her about the oral medication that Prof X mentioned yesterday. She said it is indeed Iressa. She also shared some of the side effects, e.g., pimples, nails coming off in some cases… she said so far she has not seen any patients on Iressa who survived longer than three years. She told me again just now that she is very surprised to see Mom in her fourth year on herbs.

As we were wrapping up for the evening, Prof X finally said it again, looking really pleased, “I am very surprised to see your Mother maintaining so well for 4 years.”

To sum up, we came away feeling really happy especially Mom. It’s as though a whole burden has been lifted off her. As we waited to pay for the bill, Mom told me adamantly that she doesn’t want to take anything else but your herbs.

She woke up late today at 8.00 a.m. instead of her usual 6+ a.m.   I have not seen her so well-rested for a long, long time.

I guess, we will have to continue to keep her positive. She now knows that there is nothing really “wrong”’ inside her except for the tumour.

Luv, Kim & family 

The full story of Kim’s mother.

 

Read more: https://cancercaremalaysia.com/2012/02/27/lung-cancer-stage-4-open-close-surgery-six-months-to-live-she-refused-chemo-and-took-herbs-for-three-and-half-years-now/

Acknowledgment: Thanks so much Kim for sharing mom’s story with us.